Manchester United Superthread 2014 mod warning #8081

xtal191 · 27-05-2014 01:56PM

keane2097 · 27-05-2014 01:58PM

Mitch Connor wrote: »

I'd say its more likely a big euro club has never been in for him, so he has never thought about going abroad. If Madrid or Barca came in for him I reckon he'd be interesed. Munich too. I think PSG could entice him too now, money & ease to get home.

More than likely it's never been a serious proposition for him alright.

MagicIRL · 27-05-2014 02:07PM

xtal191 wrote: »

I'm in work so I can't hear the lyrics but if that song's chorus doesn't go to Balinda Carlisle's 'Heaven is a Place On Earth' I'll be distraught.

"Oooooo baby, do you know what that's worth?"
"Ooo heaven sent us Louis Van Gaal"

nullzero · 27-05-2014 02:11PM

MagicIRL wrote: »

I'm in work so I can't hear the lyrics but if that song's chorus doesn't go to Balinda Carlisle's 'Heaven is a Place On Earth' I'll be distraught.

"Oooooo baby, do you know what that's worth?"
"Ooo heaven sent us Louis Van Gaal"

You have heard of The Smiths I take it? Is my irony detector switched off?

irishfeen · 27-05-2014 02:12PM

NeVeR wrote: »

Anyone interested in a World Cup Sweeps ?

I will arrange one if we get 32 interested players.

We could do €5 or €10 in sent via paypal ( as a gift so I don't get charged )

I will then use random.org to assign teams to the players. I will video the whole event

We should do something like this

( Example of a €10 game = €320 in pot )

World Cup winner €150
Runner Up €70

1st Yellow Card €20
1st Red Card €20
1st OG €20
1st Peno €20
Worst goal difference in group stages. €20

Something like that

Players In
1: NeVeR

Count me in too ladeen...

Donnielighto · 27-05-2014 02:24PM

nullzero wrote: »

You have heard of The Smiths I take it? Is my irony detector switched off?

Morrisey is a nut and an ass.

keane2097 · 27-05-2014 02:30PM

Donnielighto wrote: »

Morrisey is a nut and an ass.

You've made a powerful enemy.

bucketybuck · 27-05-2014 02:35PM

NeVeR wrote: »

( I'm going to quote my post each time so new people can see what it's all about )

Players In
1: NeVeR
2: Gadge
3: keane2097
4: Donnielighto
5: LightOfTruth

I'll give it a go.

TheDoc · 27-05-2014 02:36PM

Why is there discussion of offloading Mata?

I'd be under the impression LVG would be jizzing over him as part of his 4-4-3 or recent 3-5-2 expirement.

Kagawa might well get a chance to prove his naysayers wrong aswell.

Doubt the manager will offload them without viewings first hand.

Selling Mata sounds outragous. Took time to settle in a difficult situation. End of season form was what we were used to seeing. Goals and assists.

Hopefully can make a major impact next year.

Lukker- · 27-05-2014 02:41PM

TheDoc wrote: »

Why is there discussion of offloading Mata?

I'd be under the impression LVG would be jizzing over him as part of his 4-4-3 or recent 3-5-2 expirement.

Kagawa might well get a chance to prove his naysayers wrong aswell.

Doubt the manager will offload them without viewings first hand.

Selling Mata sounds outragous. Took time to settle in a difficult situation. End of season form was what we were used to seeing. Goals and assists.

Hopefully can make a major impact next year.

Mata doesn't really fit in in a 4-3-3. Not sure what variation of 3-5-2 it is, but Mata doesn't have the pace to play on the wing and he won't over much cover for the FB. It's the no.10 role or else he's wasted IMO.

adox · 27-05-2014 02:42PM

MagicIRL wrote: »

I'm in work so I can't hear the lyrics but if that song's chorus doesn't go to Balinda Carlisle's 'Heaven is a Place On Earth' I'll be distraught.

"Oooooo baby, do you know what that's worth?"
"Ooo heaven sent us Louis Van Gaal"

Please not The ****ing Smiths!!!! :mad:

bucketybuck · 27-05-2014 02:43PM

TheDoc wrote: »

Why is there discussion of offloading Mata?

I'm not sure there is any serious discussion, but to answer the question.

Any objective analysis of our squad shows it is horribly unbalanced, with a surplus of specific types of attacker at the same time as a horrible deficit in other areas.

The rational thing would be to liquidise some of the attacking assets and reinvest in the areas that need investment. So United should definitely be thinking of selling either Rooney, Kagawa or Mata. More to the point they should not have been buying a player they didn't need in the first place, but thats by the by.

Trigger · 27-05-2014 02:47PM

NeVeR wrote: »

( I'm going to quote my post each time so new people can see what it's all about )

Players In
1: NeVeR
2: Gadge
3: keane2097
4: Donnielighto
5: LightOfTruth

Ill Jump in on this

Pro. F · 27-05-2014 02:50PM

Lukker- wrote: »

Mata doesn't really fit in in a 4-3-3. Not sure what variation of 3-5-2 it is, but Mata doesn't have the pace to play on the wing and he won't over much cover for the FB. It's the no.10 role or else he's wasted IMO.

There is a number 10 in the formation that van Gaal calls his 433. He uses two hard working central midfielders, two wide men, a number 10 and a centre forward. I'd normally think of a 433 as having one deep lying defensive CM and two CMs who get up and down the pitch, but I've seen a few other Dutch coaches describe the 433 the same way LvG does. I think what those Dutch coaches are calling a 433 would usually be called a 4231 by other nationalities.

So there is a number 10 job there for Mata in van Gaal's system, if he wants to give it to him.

Rayne Wooney · 27-05-2014 02:55PM

In fairness to Kagawa he normally has 95%+ accuracy in a game it's not his fault his teammates are donkeys and don't make intelligent runs so he can use the ball effectively

On Rooney we're talking about selling one of our best players over the last 6 or 7 seasons, but freeing up what 75 million over the length of his contract and a transfer fee could get us more players to fit Van Gaal's system and probably benefit us in the long run

Scholes said Rooney may have peaked when he scored the 27 goals or whatever it was, I don't think that's correct. Rooney playing as the main striker will get you those figures, but we have RVP and the most effective systems these days seems to be one striker up front.

Lukker- · 27-05-2014 03:01PM

Pro. F wrote: »

There is a number 10 in the formation that van Gaal calls his 433. He uses two hard working central midfielders, two wide men, a number 10 and a centre forward. I'd normally think of a 433 as having one deep lying defensive CM and two CMs who get up and down the pitch, but I've seen a few other Dutch coaches describe the 433 the same way LvG does. I think what those Dutch coaches are calling a 433 would usually be called a 4231 by other nationalities.

So there is a number 10 job there for Mata in van Gaal's system, if he wants to give it to him.

DIdn't realise that. Strange, always knew it as 4-2-3-1, does the no.10 operate a bit deeper than a standard no.10?

I think this will be the biggest decision Van Gaal has to make. He has 3 quality players for the one position. Mata and Kagawa don't really possess any qualities that would he likes on the wings, Rooney can play as a striker but he clearly favours Van Persie.

Kagawa would be the obvious one to go. I can't see Van Gaal shoe horning anyone into his system. But I think he will give people a chance to prove themselves, it'll be the one who adapts and plays his way that'll be in the team.

tallaghtmick · 27-05-2014 03:10PM

Any of the free transfer players be worth a punt on even as squad players?

NeVeR · 27-05-2014 03:11PM

NeVeR wrote: »

Anyone interested in a World Cup Sweeps ?

I will arrange one if we get 32 interested players.

We could do €5 or €10 in sent via paypal ( as a gift so I don't get charged )

I will then use random.org to assign teams to the players. I will video the whole event

We should do something like this

( Example of a €10 game = €320 in pot )

World Cup winner €150
Runner Up €70

1st Yellow Card €20
1st Red Card €20
1st OG €20
1st Peno €20
Worst goal difference in group stages. €20

Something like that

( I'm going to quote my post each time so new people can see what it's all about )

Players In
1: NeVeR
2: Gadge
3: keane2097
4: Donnielighto
5: LightOfTruth
6: Vertigo100
7: s.welstead
8: duffman13
9: irishfeen
10: bucketybuck
11: astradave

If i've missed you let me know.

Last bump tonight - I'll update the list tomorrow.

RasTa · 27-05-2014 03:13PM

Stick me into the sweep

How Soon Is Now · 27-05-2014 03:15PM

xtal191 wrote: »

Haha :-) someone should get moz himself to record this. Seeing as I'm nearly sure I've seen mentioned in past he's a united fan.

Pro. F · 27-05-2014 03:19PM

Lukker- wrote: »

DIdn't realise that. Strange, always knew it as 4-2-3-1, does the no.10 operate a bit deeper than a standard no.10?

As far as I can tell it just varies from manager to manager and team to team. Even though a lot (or most) Dutch managers will describe it as a 433, some will have the number 10 doing a lot of tracking back, some will have a lazier 10. So some will use what you and I would imagine a 433 to be, others use what we'd call a 4231.

Lucas Hood · 27-05-2014 03:21PM

Pro. F wrote: »

There is a number 10 in the formation that van Gaal calls his 433. He uses two hard working central midfielders, two wide men, a number 10 and a centre forward. I'd normally think of a 433 as having one deep lying defensive CM and two CMs who get up and down the pitch, but I've seen a few other Dutch coaches describe the 433 the same way LvG does. I think what those Dutch coaches are calling a 433 would usually be called a 4231 by other nationalities.

So there is a number 10 job there for Mata in van Gaal's system, if he wants to give it to him.

That's what I've been thinking , I've read that a number 10 is very important to Van Gaal systems.

ManofStraw · 27-05-2014 03:44PM

NeVeR wrote: »

( I'm going to quote my post each time so new people can see what it's all about )

Players In
1: NeVeR
2: Gadge
3: keane2097
4: Donnielighto
5: LightOfTruth
6: Vertigo100
7: s.welstead
8: duffman13
9: irishfeen
10: bucketybuck
11: astradave

If i've missed you let me know.

Last bump tonight - I'll update the list tomorrow.

Count me in

LostBoy101 · 27-05-2014 03:47PM

NeVeR wrote: »

( I'm going to quote my post each time so new people can see what it's all about )

Players In
1: NeVeR
2: Gadge
3: keane2097
4: Donnielighto
5: LightOfTruth
6: Vertigo100
7: s.welstead
8: duffman13
9: irishfeen
10: bucketybuck
11: astradave

If i've missed you let me know.

Last bump tonight - I'll update the list tomorrow.

Count me in

glued · 27-05-2014 03:48PM

Count me in too!

Thepoet85 · 27-05-2014 04:00PM

NeVeR wrote: »

( I'm going to quote my post each time so new people can see what it's all about )

Players In
1: NeVeR
2: Gadge
3: keane2097
4: Donnielighto
5: LightOfTruth
6: Vertigo100
7: s.welstead
8: duffman13
9: irishfeen
10: bucketybuck
11: astradave

If i've missed you let me know.

Last bump tonight - I'll update the list tomorrow.

Count me in lads if I still can

TheBunk1 · 27-05-2014 04:03PM

Lucas Hood wrote: »

That's what I've been thinking , I've read that a number 10 is very important to Van Gaal systems.

Yeah he has said it's important and he sees/has used two types of #10's. The classical #10, used as third midfielder (he cites his use of Litamnen at Ajax) or the "second striker #10" (used Bergkamp with Netherlands), but he prefers the former.

Timmyctc · 27-05-2014 04:04PM

NeVeR wrote: »

( I'm going to quote my post each time so new people can see what it's all about )

Players In
1: NeVeR
2: Gadge
3: keane2097
4: Donnielighto
5: LightOfTruth
6: Vertigo100
7: s.welstead
8: duffman13
9: irishfeen
10: bucketybuck
11: astradave

If i've missed you let me know.

Last bump tonight - I'll update the list tomorrow.

Sure gowannn

irishfeen · 27-05-2014 04:23PM

How much each for the World Cup Sweeps? €20 to make things interesting?? (with an increase on things for which you can win)

newballsplease · 27-05-2014 04:35PM

tallaghtmick wrote: »

Any of the free transfer players be worth a punt on even as squad players?

Ashley Cole. Would def take him as a backup to Shaw. Think of the experience he could bring for 1 or 2 years.

Manchester United Superthread 2014 mod warning #8081

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