Manchester United Superthread 2014 mod warning #8081

Invincible · 27-05-2014 11:52AM

The_Kew_Tour wrote: »

wow wow wow

whats this? when did this start?

Week before last, speculation that he would not be favoured by LVG and would take opportunity at PSG.

homerjay2005 · 27-05-2014 11:58AM

Teamshadowclan wrote: »

Considering you're the one who has posted multiple times telling people to lower their expectations for the summer, it seems as if you also have some of the highest here.

you dont see the difference between what we need and what we expect no?

we need 5 top class players, i hope we get them, but i dont think anybody on here believes we will. if we do, great - we will all be delighted. but after endless disappointed and abysmal transfer windows in the past 5 or 6 summers (2 or 3 exceptions of course like RVP, DDG, Mata) its hard to be optimistic.

So I guess it goes back to a question asked a few days ago which wasn't answered, and I'll aim at you homerjay since you tend (no offence) to be very negative very quick towards things....do you trust LVG with the rebuilding process? And if so/not, why?

do i trust him? yes i do...

do i trust the board/club/ce? no i dont.

HOWEVER, if LVG is willing to risk our entire season on a player who had a cruciate operation 2 months ago, then my trust in him will drop. its a risk we dont need - now we need top class midfielders in as first priority, players who are proven and would help us to beat liverpool, city and chelsea in one off games as the season goes on.

by all means sign Strootman in January BUT we need to sign two top class midfielders before this.

and i am not being negative, i am being realistic. i could suggest that many people on here are too biased to have anything said about the club and refuse to accept that theres been massive failings over the past 5 years in recruitment at the club - of course we can all disagree who caused this - Glazers, Fergie, Woodward, Moyes....but please dont tell me i am being negative when weve a long line of PR disasters and failed signings in the last 12-24 months.

Pudsy33 · 27-05-2014 11:58AM

Mata is not going anywhere. It's not happening. Please stop saying it. The mere thought of it fills me with grief.

Corvo · 27-05-2014 11:59AM

Invincible wrote: »

Week before last, speculation that he would not be favoured by LVG and would take opportunity at PSG.

Think that is actuallly feasible.

He may well play his favoured 4-3-3 with Van Persie as the central striker and may not feel that Rooney will adapt to either spot out wide or in fact to midfield without disruption. He may see it as a chance to cash in on £30m quite quickly and use it to bring in a player more known to him.

That wouldnt particularly be my wish by the way.

NeVeR · 27-05-2014 12:02PM

Anyone interested in a World Cup Sweeps ?

I will arrange one if we get 32 interested players.

We could do €5 or €10 in sent via paypal ( as a gift so I don't get charged )

I will then use random.org to assign teams to the players. I will video the whole event

We should do something like this

( Example of a €10 game = €320 in pot )

World Cup winner €150
Runner Up €70

1st Yellow Card €20
1st Red Card €20
1st OG €20
1st Peno €20
Worst goal difference in group stages. €20

Something like that

Players In
1: NeVeR

Gadge · 27-05-2014 12:25PM

NeVeR wrote: »

Anyone interested in a World Cup Sweeps ?

I will arrange one if we get 32 interested players.

We could do €5 or €10 in sent via paypal ( as a gift so I don't get charged )

I will then use random.org to assign teams to the players. I will video the whole event

We should do something like this

( Example of a €10 game = €320 in pot )

World Cup winner €150
Runner Up €70

1st Yellow Card €20
1st Red Card €20
1st OG €20
1st Peno €20
Worst goal difference in group stages. €20

Something like that

Players In
1: NeVeR

Sure I'm in!

shadowcomplex · 27-05-2014 12:47PM

Pudsy33 wrote: »

Mata is not going anywhere. It's not happening. Please stop saying it. The mere thought of it fills me with grief.

All I'm saying is I'd be in favour of it if barca would give us fabregas and Sanchez in exchange , we are already well stocked in the number 10 role and we would be strengthening positions we are weak in . If LVG gets kagawa back playing to his Dortmund form we won't miss mata

Pudsy33 · 27-05-2014 12:48PM

It's far more likely Kagawa will be off I'd say. It would be bizarre for a player to leave after 6 months.

Invincible · 27-05-2014 12:52PM

Corvo wrote: »

Think that is actuallly feasible.

He may well play his favoured 4-3-3 with Van Persie as the central striker and may not feel that Rooney will adapt to either spot out wide or in fact to midfield without disruption. He may see it as a chance to cash in on £30m quite quickly and use it to bring in a player more known to him.

That wouldnt particularly be my wish by the way.

I wouldn't mind seeing the back of him, too inconsistent, consider if they could get 30M for him and the wage savings, what players could be bought.

Lucas Hood · 27-05-2014 12:54PM

Psg won't be making anymore big signings after Luiz & Alves imo.

Mitch Connor · 27-05-2014 12:57PM

Lucas Hood wrote: »

Psg won't be making anymore big signings after Luiz & Alves imo.

didn't they get Alves plus money for a player? Rather than shelling out themselves?

Also, they could look to replace Cavanni with Rooney - Cavanni is rumoured to be unhappy.

Cantona's Collars · 27-05-2014 12:58PM

Lucas Hood wrote: »

Psg won't be making anymore big signings after Luiz & Alves imo.

Yaya was quoted on SSN saying "It would be an honour to play for a club like PSG".
Strange to see a player angling for a move away from City for more money plus PSG really don't care about FFP.

Lucas Hood · 27-05-2014 12:58PM

Mitch Connor wrote: »

didn't they get Alves plus money for a player? Rather than shelling out themselves?

Also, they could look to replace Cavanni with Rooney - Cavanni is rumoured to be unhappy.

€20M Yeah.

homerjay2005 · 27-05-2014 01:04PM

Teamshadowclan wrote: »

. I'm not arguing that it wouldn't still be problematic; .

well actually you are...you said youd be ****ing thrilled.

signing Hummels, Shaw and Kross (or any other world class midfielder) i would be fairly thrilled myself and in normal circumstances Strootman would be great, but the lad could take 2 or 3 months to get back to his best and this is huge problem.

anyway, its all relative until if/when it happens, hopefully it wont.

bmcc10 · 27-05-2014 01:06PM

Kagawa was playing today with Japan he really is a different player with us, some of the passing was great and his control in tight spaces is brilliant, can't wait to see him at the WC.

NeVeR · 27-05-2014 01:10PM

NeVeR wrote: »

Anyone interested in a World Cup Sweeps ?

I will arrange one if we get 32 interested players.

We could do €5 or €10 in sent via paypal ( as a gift so I don't get charged )

I will then use random.org to assign teams to the players. I will video the whole event

We should do something like this

( Example of a €10 game = €320 in pot )

World Cup winner €150
Runner Up €70

1st Yellow Card €20
1st Red Card €20
1st OG €20
1st Peno €20
Worst goal difference in group stages. €20

Something like that

Players In
1: NeVeR

Gadge wrote: »

Sure I'm in!

Players In
1: NeVeR
2: Gadge

keane2097 · 27-05-2014 01:14PM

NeVeR wrote: »

Players In
1: NeVeR
2: Gadge

Yeah put me in.

Donnielighto · 27-05-2014 01:15PM

NeVeR wrote: »

Anyone interested in a World Cup Sweeps ?

I will arrange one if we get 32 interested players.

We could do €5 or €10 in sent via paypal ( as a gift so I don't get charged )

I will then use random.org to assign teams to the players. I will video the whole event

We should do something like this

( Example of a €10 game = €320 in pot )

World Cup winner €150
Runner Up €70

1st Yellow Card €20
1st Red Card €20
1st OG €20
1st Peno €20
Worst goal difference in group stages. €20

Something like that

Players In
1: NeVeR

I'll do it.

Cantona's Collars · 27-05-2014 01:18PM

bmcc10 wrote: »

Kagawa was playing today with Japan he really is a different player with us, some of the passing was great and his control in tight spaces is brilliant, can't wait to see him at the WC.

How many times was he quoted as asking to be trusted on the pitch,I reckon he'd thrive under LVG.
The ultra defensive stodgy football we played last season would choke the life out of any creative player,especially if like Kagawa he didn't get enough game time and ended up in a formation which left the back 6 (Carrick/A.N Other basically played as defenders) so disconnected from the front 4.

It's odd that even Fergie didn't seem to trust him yet played Park when he was at United when he was technically inferior and just as easy to knock off the ball.

During games in the last season it was criminal watching him find pockets of space and demanding the ball yet time & again the likes of Carrick ignored him and either played a 5 yard pass to Cleverley or back to Rio which inevitably led to us surrendering possession or a hail Mary diagonal ball to Valencia.Mata suffered the same fate during games,it was if he was on a plane above the rest who seemed incapable of playing any intelligent incisive football.

27-05-2014 01:20PM

NeVeR wrote: »

Players In
1: NeVeR
2: Gadge

3: lightoftruth for sure Ill do it seems like fun, let me know when everyone is sending the money and ill do it for sure.

NeVeR · 27-05-2014 01:27PM

NeVeR wrote: »

Anyone interested in a World Cup Sweeps ?

I will arrange one if we get 32 interested players.

We could do €5 or €10 in sent via paypal ( as a gift so I don't get charged )

I will then use random.org to assign teams to the players. I will video the whole event

We should do something like this

( Example of a €10 game = €320 in pot )

World Cup winner €150
Runner Up €70

1st Yellow Card €20
1st Red Card €20
1st OG €20
1st Peno €20
Worst goal difference in group stages. €20

Something like that

Players In
1: NeVeR

( I'm going to quote my post each time so new people can see what it's all about )

Players In
1: NeVeR
2: Gadge
3: keane2097
4: Donnielighto
5: LightOfTruth

Vertigo100 · 27-05-2014 01:32PM

Stick me in for the sweeps sher.

rob316 · 27-05-2014 01:35PM

shadowcomplex wrote: »

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/football/article-2639592/THE-CONTINENTAL-BREAKFAST-Barcelona-offer-Dani-Alves-Cesc-Fabregas-Alexis-Sanchez-64m-Marquinhos-flattered-Real-Madrid-set-sights-Undecima.html

If barca were willing to give us Sanchez and fabregas for mata I'd take that deal

Would this be acceptable next season

De Gea

Raf-hummels-Evans-shaw

---strootman--fabregas ---

Sanchez--kagawa--konoplyanka
Rvp or Rooney

It's a nice little team I think and not one that would be impossible to assemble

Acceptable? That is a world class team. I wouldn't be possible to bring in that many top names in one window.

stesaurus · 27-05-2014 01:36PM

NeVeR wrote: »

( I'm going to quote my post each time so new people can see what it's all about )

Players In
1: NeVeR
2: Gadge
3: keane2097
4: Donnielighto
5: LightOfTruth

Go on so, it will at least give me a team to cheer on

Pro. F · 27-05-2014 01:48PM

I think it's pretty obvious at this stage that Rooney doesn't want to leave England. So speculation about him joining a continental club is very likely to be wrong.

Agueroooo · 27-05-2014 01:50PM

Pro. F wrote: »

I think it's pretty obvious at this stage that Rooney doesn't want to leave England. So speculation about him joining a continental club is very likely to be wrong.

Yep always thought that.
Young family and by all accounts a strong spirited wife I reckon will keep him rooted for the remainder of his career.

duffman13 · 27-05-2014 01:51PM

NeVeR wrote: »

( I'm going to quote my post each time so new people can see what it's all about )

Players In
1: NeVeR
2: Gadge
3: keane2097
4: Donnielighto
5: LightOfTruth

Lob me in there boss

keane2097 · 27-05-2014 01:52PM

Pro. F wrote: »

I think it's pretty obvious at this stage that Rooney doesn't want to leave England. So speculation about him joining a continental club is very likely to be wrong.

Ah I dunno that's one of those things you could easily change your mind about from year to year. I'm sure we all know people who said they'd never go to Australia/Canada/wherever only to decide "sure **** it I'll try it for a year" six months down the line.

That's without the carrot of probably a massive wage increase being dangled in front of you and only being an hour or two from home as well.

Lord TSC · 27-05-2014 01:54PM

homerjay2005 wrote: »

well actually you are...you said youd be ****ing thrilled.

signing Hummels, Shaw and Kross (or any other world class midfielder) i would be fairly thrilled myself and in normal circumstances Strootman would be great, but the lad could take 2 or 3 months to get back to his best and this is huge problem.

anyway, its all relative until if/when it happens, hopefully it wont.

I would be thrilled; there'd still be problems but that doesn't mean I couldnt be happy moves with major strides in the right direction. There's degrees of happiness, and if we signed those three as a LB, CB and CM, then I would be thrilled.

If LVG, with his CV and experience says "This is a player I trust and think will do the job", then I too will trust him; LVG knows better than most what type of player he is and when he'll be due back, what work ethic he brings and what other factors he brings to the table.

Mitch Connor · 27-05-2014 01:55PM

keane2097 wrote: »

Ah I dunno that's one of those things you could easily change your mind about from year to year. I'm sure we all know people who said they'd never go to Australia/Canada/wherever only to decide "sure **** it I'll try it for a year" six months down the line.

That's without the carrot of probably a massive wage increase being dangled in front of you and only being an hour or two from home as well.

I'd say its more likely a big euro club has never been in for him, so he has never thought about going abroad. If Madrid or Barca came in for him I reckon he'd be interesed. Munich too. I think PSG could entice him too now, money & ease to get home.

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