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Scaremongering about cannabis on Crimecall right now

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 673 ✭✭✭pundy


    look, it'll be legalised to some degree in the near future. that'll shut them up, it'll shut us up. lets just shut up about it, until it just happens. which is soon


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 6,106 ✭✭✭catallus


    pundy wrote: »
    look, it'll be legalised to some degree in the near future. that'll shut them up, it'll shut us up. lets just shut up about it, until it just happens. which is soon

    Shut up! :cool:


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 502 ✭✭✭richy


    Are you sure you're not stoned? :pac:

    I mean, you have the most posts in this thread so far
    Haha very good
    Most posts but no valid points. I think willie o dee is in the building!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 22,609 ✭✭✭✭kneemos


    richy wrote: »
    He with the fewest opinions is wrong the least. Good strategy

    I won't state the obvious.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 17,745 ✭✭✭✭kylith


    If you smoked cannabis every night for over a decade then you were a drug addict. If I ate bananas every night for a decade then I'd be addicted to bananas. But at least bananas aren't a psychoactive substance.

    I genuinely don't believe it didn't have a negative impact on your ability to do your work. Despite what you may think. As I've said, it's rarely the addict who sees what their drug is doing to them.

    I wouldn't say I was addicted any more than someone who has two beers of an evening is addicted to alcohol. I certainly had a habit. I quit a couple of months ago. I'd say 'cold turkey' but it wasn't even that, I just stopped.

    You can doubt its lack of impact on my ability to work all you like, you weren't there and I'm obviously biased. One thing I will say is that Boards effects my work more than cannabis ever did.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 673 ✭✭✭pundy


    Kneemos, you DO in fairness always appear on these cannabis themed threads with the same almost-garda-like stance to the way you think of it all.

    you know deep down that you personally can not control what others do, and that it's use will continue regardless of what you say or do.

    it WILL be legalised, probably and hopefully very soon (my guess would be any time before 2025) and then what? you either shut up or put up.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 22,609 ✭✭✭✭kneemos


    pundy wrote: »
    Kneemos, you DO in fairness always appear on these cannabis themed threads with the same almost-garda-like stance to the way you think of it all.

    you know deep down that you personally can not control what others do, and that it's use will continue regardless of what you say or do.

    it WILL be legalised, probably and hopefully very soon (my guess would be any time before 2025) and then what? you either shut up or put up.

    Ahh I think the whole point of Boards is to accommodate all viewpoints.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,045 ✭✭✭JJayoo


    Now that Colorado and Washington have legalised Cannabis it will be pretty much impossible for legitimate scaremongering as you will just have to look at the stats from both states.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 502 ✭✭✭richy


    pundy wrote: »
    Kneemos, you DO in fairness always appear on these cannabis themed threads with the same almost-garda-like stance to the way you think of it all.

    you know deep down that you personally can not control what others do, and that it's use will continue regardless of what you say or do.

    it WILL be legalised, probably and hopefully very soon (my guess would be any time before 2025) and then what? you either shut up or put up.


    I think we know why. From another thread "Every time I hear peer reviewed I automatically take the opposite view" obviously he has a problem with evidence and science. And yes I did have a look through your post history kneemos. One thing I do agree with is Miriam o callaghan being a **** presenter but she's a serious milf


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 22,609 ✭✭✭✭kneemos


    richy wrote: »
    I think we know why. From another thread "Every time I hear peer reviewed I automatically take the opposite view" obviously he has a problem with evidence and science. And yes I did have a look through your post history kneemos. One thing I do agree with is Miriam o callaghan being a **** presenter but she's a serious milf

    You certainly take opposing views seriously.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 502 ✭✭✭richy


    kneemos wrote: »
    You certainly take opposing views seriously.
    I take research seriously.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 340 ✭✭desultory


    kneemos wrote: »
    Ahh I think the whole point of Boards is to accommodate all viewpoints.

    Even idiotic blinkered ones? Pity :(


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,303 ✭✭✭Temptamperu


    kneemos wrote: »
    Curious how cannabis users feel the desperate need to defend it.
    It appears as if they feel someone might take it away if they don't tell everyone how harmless it is.

    Curious why the anti-weed crowd have to go on national tv and lie to the public.

    Weed has killed zero people.
    Mental illness is difficult to attribute simply to "that guy smoked weed now he's schizophrenic". That guy also drank tea all his life and cornflakes too so could they be accounted for his issues?
    Nobody knows what causes mental illness but how come the police and GP's and most of the "neh" crowd know more about it than all the currant doctors studying and working in this field.

    Also cases of schizophrenia have gone down while marijuana use has gone up and according to the "neh" crowd stronger than the seventies.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 673 ✭✭✭pundy


    kneemos wrote: »
    Ahh I think the whole point of Boards is to accommodate all viewpoints.

    oh i know its the whole point, but sure really though, it's a load of sh!te, when we all know it'll be legalised soon enough anyway. so argue away, of course!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 728 ✭✭✭pueblo


    AlanG wrote: »
    Which country in Europe? It is tolerated in the Netherlands but not legal. Is there another country where it is actually legal?

    All drug use is decriminalised in Portugal. Sensible really as drug use is a 'social' problem not a 'criminal' problem.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 4,678 ✭✭✭I Heart Internet


    Anyone watching this crap? Unbelievable amount of bollocks being spewed by 'experts'

    They deliberately mashed it in the totally unrelated story about contaminated pills.

    Why are "experts" in the media and on telly always so wrong and know-it-alls on the internet always right??

    Could it be that "experts" know stuff that biased drug-fans don't?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 502 ✭✭✭richy


    pundy wrote: »
    oh i know its the whole point, but sure really though, it's a load of sh!te, when we all know it'll be legalised soon enough anyway. so argue away, of course!

    He's not really arguing though. He hasn't put any points across. He's just making smart ass one sentence comments.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 673 ✭✭✭pundy


    Why are "experts" in the media and on telly always so wrong and know-it-alls on the internet always right??

    Could it be that "experts" know stuff that biased drug-fans don't?

    no it's because the "experts" on tv are on there to fill the agenda of the producers of the show, and in this case, on national government run television, so they are obviously going to be pushing the agenda of the government moreso.

    which we can all pretty much agree is against cannabis.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 22,609 ✭✭✭✭kneemos


    richy wrote: »
    He's not really arguing though. He hasn't put any points across. He's just making smart ass one sentence comments.

    And yet I've been insulted and called all sorts?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 502 ✭✭✭richy


    Why are "experts" in the media and on telly always so wrong and know-it-alls on the internet always right??

    Could it be that "experts" know stuff that biased drug-fans don't?

    They are never really experts though. All the experts are in the us and uk. We get the local gp who trained 40 years ago and has never done any research into it he's just someone with a degree making uninformed comments.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 673 ✭✭✭pundy


    kneemos wrote: »
    And yet I've been insulted and called all sorts?

    well dont goad people into it then with your nonsense


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 4,678 ✭✭✭I Heart Internet


    pundy wrote: »
    no it's because the "experts" on tv are on there to fill the agenda of the producers of the show, and in this case, on national government run television, so they are obviously going to be pushing the agenda of the government moreso.

    I didn't see the show. Just seems to be a common theme on these drug threads.

    Like, the "bad-pills" thread in recent days. Lots of know-it-alls telling us to calm down and be a responsible drug user and use one of the many pill testing sites and how they should be available in clubs (testing kits).

    A consultant of emergency medicine in Cork was on the Last Word on Today FM stating, essentially, that whis notion that one can test synthetic drugs in a club is complete horse-****.

    Drug users like to claim that some illegal drugs are harmless, most are fine once you're clever enough (and look into your dealers eyes) and that only poor junkies get hooked on anything.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 502 ✭✭✭richy


    kneemos wrote: »
    And yet I've been insulted and called all sorts?

    Meh. I called you simple. Which is clearly proven by that comment where you said you always argue against anything that's peer reviewed. Wouldn't be surprised if next thing you say is gos made the world is seven days and nights. You haven't made one logical argument as I have pointed out multiple times and you have failed each time to respond with such. Earlier you had the most posts im the thread and each comment was waffle and irrelevant comments.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 4,678 ✭✭✭I Heart Internet


    richy wrote: »
    They are never really experts though. All the experts are in the us and uk. We get the local gp who trained 40 years ago and has never done any research into it he's just someone with a degree making uninformed comments.

    And all of us amateur pharmacologists on tinternet? We're the ones to be listened to?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 502 ✭✭✭richy


    I didn't see the show. Just seems to be a common theme on these drug threads.

    Like, the "bad-pills" thread in recent days. Lots of know-it-alls telling us to calm down and be a responsible drug user and use one of the many druf testing sites and how they should be available in clubs (testing kits).

    A consultant of emergency medicine in Cork was on the Last Word on Today FM stating, essentially, that whis notion that one can test synthetic drugs in a club is complete horse-****.

    Drug users like to claim that some illegal drugs are harmless, most are fine once you're clever enough (and look into your dealers eyes) and that only poor junkies get hooked on anything.

    wtf does that consultant know about the ability to test drugs in a nightclub. They do it in many countries especially at festivals and very successfully too. People are gonna do drugs no matter what. Last year at electric they made a big announcement to not to take the green Rolex. People still did because it's all they had and they thought it would never happen to them. Two people died if I remember correctly. May not have happened if there was a prosecution free area where you could get your pills tested.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 9,992 ✭✭✭blackwhite


    pundy wrote: »
    well dont goad people into it then with your nonsense

    Sounds more than a bit like "she was wearing a short skirt."


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 673 ✭✭✭pundy


    I didn't see the show. Just seems to be a common theme on these drug threads.

    Like, the "bad-pills" thread in recent days. Lots of know-it-alls telling us to calm down and be a responsible drug user and use one of the many pill testing sites and how they should be available in clubs (testing kits).

    A consultant of emergency medicine in Cork was on the Last Word on Today FM stating, essentially, that whis notion that one can test synthetic drugs in a club is complete horse-****.

    Drug users like to claim that some illegal drugs are harmless, most are fine once you're clever enough (and look into your dealers eyes) and that only poor junkies get hooked on anything.

    nobody is threatening your own perceived expertise here, all i, and others are doing, or trying to do is show you REAL facts that are tried and tested, and to show up the cranks on rte spouting out drivel based on winced opinion from 20-30 years ago's ideals.

    and you can surely understand why it is frustrating to people who DO know and have bothered to read the research, and who DO smoke the stuff to be met with the usual irish-mentality "save the children" sh!t every single time a drug is mentioned on here.

    if you don't smoke it, then just stay out of the argument really, cos you wont have a clue what you're on about at all, cos you'd be basing your flawed opinions of cannabis on the ideas of a crank who is paid to spout lies on a corrupted governments tv station.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 673 ✭✭✭pundy


    blackwhite wrote: »
    Sounds more than a bit like "she was wearing a short skirt."

    what exactly is that?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 502 ✭✭✭richy


    And all of us amateur pharmacologists on tinternet? We're the ones to be listened to?

    I have no doubt that I know more about recreational and illegal drugs than your average gp. It's an interest of mime. I spend a lot of time reading about it and I haven't done anything besides weed in prob three years so I'm not a user of "harder drugs" Obviously a doctor would know few more about pharmaceuticals than I would seeing as hey prescribe them left right and centre like there sweets, hence the common nickname for them.


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 9 what it takes


    I'm not an expert but is cannabis anymore harmful than alcohol, rarely see two stoners beating the crap out of each other (great Bill Hicks joke). Yes it has side effects like alcohol and cigarettes, you have to exercise personal responsibility. Proper researched debated will go a long way not some dragnet like rhetoric about how the mary jane is screwin' the kids up man.


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