UK man faces jail for "accidentally" slapping Ryanair stewardess on bottom

P. Breathnach · 27-05-2014 12:39PM

BBJBIG wrote: »

Bloody Nonsense.

Bet yis all if it were George Clooney or Colin Farrell schlapped her on the arse - the
same arse wouldn't get washed for a Munt of Sundays ...

And, she would be showing off the Handprint to all d'other Moths ... not ta mention,
takin selfies ...

Fooookin madness.

1. I know plenty of women who would not like to have their arse slapped by any stranger, even a handsome stranger or a celebrity.
2. Even if a particular woman would tolerate such behaviour from particular men, it's not a licence for others to behave as if it's a general right to be enjoyed by all men. Following your line of reasoning, if a woman were willing to have casual sex with a particular man, then she should be available to all men on an equal-opportunity basis.

Santa Cruz · 27-05-2014 01:00PM

Ficheall wrote: »

I don't think his "one-eyed snake" or, indeed, one-eyed snakes in general were mentioned anywhere at all in the report?

Well his one eyed snake is going to be introduced to Bubba in his cell one of these nights.

kiffer · 27-05-2014 01:14PM

Hmmm I think jail time is excessive, a fine and a ban on flying with Ryanair would be more the ticket.
Wait, not a banned from Ryanair, required to fly Ryanair!

When I was last groped by a stranger the perpetrator was gone out of the shop and I've no idea how the gaurds would find a random person if they showed up half an hour after they were gone... that was a fairly distressing incident,
*creepy touching*
"What you are doing is really creepy"
"No it's not, you're lovely *touch touch*"
"That was meant to stop you"
"No, it's lovely, lovely *touch touch*
Then there may have been some boob touching and laughter as they left the shop. The staff in the shop were pretty shocked by the whole thing.

Since then the only other thing to happen was some kids walking down a busy road slapping people on the bum with a flyswatter.

Pumpkinseeds · 27-05-2014 01:26PM

Ryanair hires attractive stewardesses and allows pisse* up passengers on board. What do they think is going to happen? Do I think that justifies it? no. Do I think it's a big deal? No. She got a slap on the arse from a drunk passenger. Would she be prosecuting if she got a slap on the arse in a bar? I doubt it. What a non story, I'd say he's getting more than enough well deserved grief from his fiance, parents and future in laws.

P. Breathnach · 27-05-2014 01:29PM

If the report quoted in the OP was a fair account of what was said in court, I think it unlikely that the perpetrator will serve a custodial sentence (but you can never predict sentencing decisions in Magistrates' Courts, any more than you can do in an Irish District Court).

It might be a good thing that people are reminded that assaults of this nature should be, and are, viewed as being serious to the extent that they can land perpetrators in jail.

Technophobia · 27-05-2014 01:41PM

Pumpkinseeds wrote: »

Ryanair hires attractive stewardesses and allows pisse* up passengers on board. What do they think is going to happen? Do I think that justifies it? no. Do I think it's a big deal? No. She got a slap on the arse from a drunk passenger. Would she be prosecuting if she got a slap on the arse in a bar? I doubt it. What a non story, I'd say he's getting more than enough well deserved grief from his fiance, parents and future in laws.

Yep she was totally inviting it by being good looking. She should just let her self go. Then she wont be asking for it.

Muise... · 27-05-2014 01:46PM

Ficheall wrote: »

I don't think his "one-eyed snake" or, indeed, one-eyed snakes in general were mentioned anywhere at all in the report?

You're quite right. That was my unnecessarily obtuse way of calling him a dick.

_Redzer_ · 27-05-2014 02:00PM

P. Breathnach wrote: »

1. I know plenty of women who would not like to have their arse slapped by any stranger, even a handsome stranger or a celebrity.
2. Even if a particular woman would tolerate such behaviour from particular men, it's not a licence for others to behave as if it's a general right to be enjoyed by all men. Following your line of reasoning, if a woman were willing to have casual sex with a particular man, then she should be available to all men on an equal-opportunity basis.

I'm not a particular fan of it, but often I just smile and laugh it off because they really don't think they've done any harm, so it seems a lot of women think it's ok and harmless to do it, but not ok for guys to. There's a massive double standard here

Pumpkinseeds · 27-05-2014 03:09PM

Technophobia wrote: »

Yep she was totally inviting it by being good looking. She should just let her self go. Then she wont be asking for it.

Did you actually read my post? The part about Ryanair allowing drunken passengers to fly? I did not say that it was her fault. A drunk guy would slap the arse of any woman, regardless of attractive she might or might not be. Don't be in such a hurry to start throwing around accusations of the blame the victim sh*t.

osarusan · 27-05-2014 03:39PM

Technophobia wrote: »

Yep she was totally inviting it by being good looking. She should just let her self go. Then she wont be asking for it.

Yeah, nobody will notice that this isn't what the poster said at all. You've got them now, well done.

Barely There · 27-05-2014 03:45PM

Have Ryanair contributed to the sexualisation of their flight attendents by publishing scantily-clad pictures of them?

It's possible.

Galwayguy35 · 27-05-2014 04:22PM

Santa Cruz wrote: »

Well his one eyed snake is going to be introduced to Bubba in his cell one of these nights.

More double standards, hinting that he will be sexually assaulted in prison and you get 2 thanks for it.

P. Breathnach · 27-05-2014 04:29PM

Barely There wrote: »

Have Ryanair contributed to the sexualisation of their flight attendents by publishing scantily-clad pictures of them?

It's possible.

I'd go so far as to say that it's probable.

But that still does not give me a right to lay a hand on any of them, or any justification for doing so - not even one who has posed for scantily-clad pictures; not even one who has performed in porn films.

Barely There · 27-05-2014 05:08PM

P. Breathnach wrote: »

I'd go so far as to say that it's probable.

But that still does not give me a right to lay a hand on any of them, or any justification for doing so - not even one who has posed for scantily-clad pictures; not even one who has performed in porn films.

Link please!

P. Breathnach · 27-05-2014 05:25PM

Barely There wrote: »

Link please!

Do your own research: Google can get you there.

Technophobia · 27-05-2014 05:26PM

Pumpkinseeds wrote: »

Did you actually read my post? The part about Ryanair allowing drunken passengers to fly? I did not say that it was her fault. A drunk guy would slap the arse of any woman, regardless of attractive she might or might not be. Don't be in such a hurry to start throwing around accusations of the blame the victim sh*t.

Yes I read your post. I can read.

This is what you said..

*Ryanair hires attractive stewardesses and allows pisse* up passengers on board. What do they think is going to happen? *

So if someone is good looking and comes into contact with someone is drunk, its only inevitable?

Why doesnt the guy take responsibility for being langerated and sleazy?
Why is it RA fault for hiring an attractive woman? Why does it matter that she is attractive. What do her looks matter when she is being assaulted?

I am pie · 27-05-2014 05:39PM

Ahh he's drunk, he couldn't help it probably doesn't wash in a court of law.

Nor does "lookit, they put a good looking woman on this plane full a drunken frustrated wnkers"

Cop out, take some responsibility. You got drunk. You acted the maggot. Deal with it.

mikeym · 27-05-2014 05:55PM

The man should get a fine not jail.

Obviously men like him have no respect for women.

oak5548 · 27-05-2014 05:58PM

Christ, people think he should be punished for just being a drunken idiot.
The only thing this deserves in a warning. Not even a new article should have been written.

oak5548 · 27-05-2014 06:08PM

bluewolf wrote: »

Well it shouldn't be

why not? I couldnt give a crap if a girl did this to me. Infact its been done many times. Are you suggesting we all just start becoming offended by a complete non issue all of a sudden?

Sound of Silence · 27-05-2014 06:52PM

IrishEyes19 wrote: »

The responses by some men here have really surprised me. this has nothing to do with a woman indecently slapping a guy. the incident in question is a man slapped a woman, focus on the issue in hand and if the table was turned, the same legal action should be taken as well. But anytime now a woman is involved in one of these cases, the male brigade come out in full force saying "if a woman did this...." well in this case she didnt.

Well, it offers a little perspective here - especially on an issue which provokes such strong reactions.

And I'm sure everyone here (including the men) are in a agreement that the guy was an absolute tool and deserves to be reprimanded. But jail time and the likelihood that he will lose his job? Is that really justice or are we being carried away by hysteria?

Pumpkinseeds · 27-05-2014 06:57PM

Technophobia wrote: »

Yes I read your post. I can read.

This is what you said..

*Ryanair hires attractive stewardesses and allows pisse* up passengers on board. What do they think is going to happen? *

So if someone is good looking and comes into contact with someone is drunk, its only inevitable?

Why doesnt the guy take responsibility for being langerated and sleazy?
Why is it RA fault for hiring an attractive woman? Why does it matter that she is attractive. What do her looks matter when she is being assaulted?

I think you need to get a grip. A slap on the arse is not assault. Good looking women and pisse* up men are a recipe for that kind of thing, always has been always will be,regardless of the location. The issue is more a case of Ryanair allowing drunken passengers to fly. By doing so they are creating an unpleasant atmosphere for both staff and passengers.

In my younger days I had many a drunken slap on the arse and while it was extremely annoying it is just typical drunken behaviour which I would never consider to be assault. Sweet mother of Jesus people need to cop themselves on and stop bandying around words like 'assault'. It was a stupid, sexist thoughtless thing for him to have done. The emphasis being on thoughtless.

ryan101 · 27-05-2014 07:29PM

She better not ever visit Turkey, the ass pinching and ass slapping of western women there is very common.

P. Breathnach · 27-05-2014 08:29PM

Pumpkinseeds wrote: »

I think you need to get a grip. A slap on the arse is not assault....

Yes it is, and it's also battery.

To suggest otherwise is to offer a licence for men to indulge in lewd behaviour. If a woman does not want a man's hand on her arse (or any other part of her) she is entitled to have her wishes respected.

_Redzer_ · 27-05-2014 08:34PM

P. Breathnach wrote: »

Yes it is, and it's also battery.

To suggest otherwise is to offer a licence for men to indulge in lewd behaviour. If a woman does not want a man's hand on her arse (or any other part of her) she is entitled to have her wishes respected.

So I'm the victim of assault too?

Would you also be in favour of jailing said women that have assaulted me?

You only seem to talk from the woman's side. This happens to men too, but you're ignoring it, or at least making it out to be less important.

Frank Lee Midere · 27-05-2014 08:45PM

As a male with a fine arse which has never been molested I am feeling a tad left out here.

Shakespeare's Sister · 27-05-2014 08:50PM

oak5548 wrote: »

why not? I couldnt give a crap if a girl did this to me. Infact its been done many times. Are you suggesting we all just start becoming offended by a complete non issue all of a sudden?

But lots of people (male and female) don't like it being done. And "You should get over it" rather than "It shouldn't be done" is a pretty weird take.
"We all" don't have to start getting offended, because people shouldn't be slapping strangers' arses in the first place.

P. Breathnach · 27-05-2014 08:51PM

_Redzer_ wrote: »

So I'm the victim of assault too?

Yes.

Would you also be in favour of jailing said women that have assaulted me?

What do you mean "also"? I never said that I was in favour of jailing the guy in this case. You may infer that I am in favour of prosecuting him and applying a sanction.

You only seem to talk from the woman's side. This happens to men too, but you're ignoring it, or at least making it out to be less important.

The thread was started to discuss a particular man's behaviour in relation to a particular woman. There is an element of whataboutery in some of the posts about the behaviour of some women in relation to men, and I was choosing to focus on the issue raised in the OP.

But as you have raised the question, I am equally against women touching men inappropriately, and would be supportive of a woman being prosecuted and sanctioned for equivalent behaviour.

To my mind, the fact that the woman was at work is also a factor in the case. She didn't have access to some of the response options of a woman in a social situation, as she had to maintain a professional demeanour. In treating her as he did, he was taking advantage of the constraints under which she had to operate.

_Redzer_ · 27-05-2014 08:56PM

Frank Lee Midere wrote: »

As a male with a fine arse which has never been molested I am feeling a tad left out here.

Moar squats!!

MRnotlob606 · 27-05-2014 08:58PM

put him up against a firing squad and get him to recite the poetry of robert frost in esparanto

UK man faces jail for "accidentally" slapping Ryanair stewardess on bottom

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