Scaremongering about cannabis on Crimecall right now

Here's a relatively objective article about the drug from cancer.org, including known uses, harms, and possible side effects

http://www.cancer.org/treatment/treatmentsandsideeffects/complementaryandalternativemedicine/herbsvitaminsandminerals/marijuana

Alexander Gentle Watercolor wrote: »

It doesn't matter what you smoke, it's unhealthy, it doesn't take a genius to figure that one out :rolleyes:

well naturally smoking the stuff is bad. smoking tobacco is bad, but tobacco is legal and doesn't have any other known worthwhile properties aside from the addictive nicotine.

Two states in the U.S.and one country in europe have made it legal.How long before this is the norm.Think of how much money could be made.

I was done for possession before!
yeah I was dying for a leak one night, and I stopped on the side of the road in the middle off the night, trying to be a gentle man, I took an empty can from my car and quickly peed into it, just as I was about to put 'it' away,the fcukin feds pulled up, what could I do.... Anyway 'very interesting long story short'.... They done me for possession off canapiss.

Curious how cannabis users feel the desperate need to defend it.
It appears as if they feel someone might take it away if they don't tell everyone how harmless it is.

Deleted User wrote: »

I had to attend mental health services at the age of 17, having suffered from depression since childhood, but didn't become unmanageable till then... I do recall one of the first questions asked of me related to drug use, specifically marijuana. Have you smoked it? Yes. Case closed.

No amount of protesting that I smoked the odd joint with my brother, counting about six times in four years, would make any difference to their opinion on my diagnosis. I was labelled a drug user and my real medical issues were at that time not addressed. This kind of scaremongering then can definitely have an unseen backlash. I understand that some rare risks are involved in marijuana use but please. It can at times become a scapegoat, as I believe it is in this instance. No, I didn't watch the show either.

This exactly.

kneemos wrote: »

Curious how cannabis users feel the desperate need to defend it.
It appears as if they feel someone might take it away if they don't tell everyone how harmless it is.

I smoked weed everyday for bout six years. It killed my motivation while smoking it to better myself. That's it.No other mental side affects. Although I think I'm luckier than most who smoke it all the time from a young age everyday. We want kids not to smoke at all And make it as a weekend recreation thing for adults. Mimimum age of 25 or older would be a great idea. Eventually when it becomes more socially acceptable and less cool usage will die out. I wouldn't give alcohol to a 12 yr old because the law says over 18s. I prob would to a 16 or 17 yr old though because it's human nature to flout the law a little bit when it comes to lee serious crimes. In the future people may sort out their 22 year old younger brother or sister but wouldn't dream of giving it to the 16/17/18 yr olds who are most susceptible to damage for heavy use. Once I came off it got my motivation back fairly quickly. No withdrawal symptoms besides being bored to tears for the first week or two.

Smoking weed however is not good for children especially if your brain is still developing. It has been proven to lower iq in adolescents and in the same study it was shown to have no noted affects on adults over the age of 23/25 can't remember exactly. The media just ran with the "cannavis lowers your iq" headline. This is one reason why cannabis users defend cannabis because of all the prejudice and misinformation that is causing harm to the general public. If I drank every day for 7 years I would be in an awful awful state now. I guarantee you a14 yr old will be able to get cannabis much easier than alcohol. I was offered cannabis at 12 in my local rugby club, didn't smoke it till couple years later but it is absolutely everywhere!

Cannabis is seen as cool due to its illegality. Take away this and cannabis usage rates drop. This has been proven in the Netherlands. For years, one of the most lenient countries regarding cannabis, has the lowest usage of cannabis as a % of the population.

Dr tashkin from UCLA I believe done a study on cannabis's effect on the lungs. He concluded that smoking 3 joints a day with tobacco was equal to a 20 a day cigarette habit. He revisited the study a couple of years later using only pure cannabis and (to his surprise)he could find no damage to the lungs when pure cannabis was smoked. An even safer way to use cannabis is via a vaporiser, which turns it into a steam that can be inhaled. Very healthy in terms of not causing lung damage.

Most leading scientist are very much against the "drug war" and prohibition because it has it's roots in scare mongering and uninformed decisions not science bases decisions. The uk hired drug policy advisors who are scientists to advise them on drug policy based on sciencetific studies. The head of research (professor nutt was his name which I'm sure all the prohibitions on here will just laugh at the name and mock him without making any valid points or doing any research)published his study which said that many illegal drugs are far safer than alcohol(MDMA, cannabis and LSD being some of these that were safer in the view of a group of scientisst, someone who deals in facts) and they fired him because they couldn't possibly legalise some drugs, what would the elderly voters think. The rest of the scientist quit In protest at his sacking because they knew the uk government were just tryna cover their own asses.

Regarding psychiatric illnesses and psychosis this has not been proven that it causes it. It can cause people who are predisposed to psychiatric problems to show these earlier with cannabis use but in the majority of these cases they would have gotten it anyway. Plus the percentage of cannabis users presenting themselves with mental health issues causes by cannabis is less than one percent. There is two main active ingredients in cannabis.thc and cbd. Thc gets you high and cbd is an anti psychotic cannabanoid.

Cbd has been proven to help with depression, epilepsy and so many other illnesses without having the high if people don't want it. Currently cannabis is much stronger than it used to be. This is solely due to prohibition. Growers are growing the strains with the highest thc to get the best high to attract the best prices. Purposely choosing strains with no cbd, if there is any relation between psychosis and cannabis this is it. And it's caused by prohibition. Same happened with alcohol. The price went up, the strength went up( causing blindness, alcohol poisoning, death etc) and the price went up more literally creating the modern gang and violence scene. Prohibition does not work. It only causes harm to people lives and does far more damage than cannabis ever will. 250,000 people in ireland with drug convictions. Couldn't believe it myself when I found the figure, it's startling. The whole system of how we deal with drugs needs to be radically overhauled.

Nowadays I smoke maybe one weekend in three and I enjoy it far more than when I smoked every day and I have heaps more money. People who don't want cannabis legalised never have much points of substance or if they do they usually aren't that big of a deal in terms of the negatives compared to the negatives of prohibition. I have two friends who on the way to a house party were pulled over by a motorbike for speeding. The driver was high( which he shouldn't be do while driving) . They also had two bags each on them. One for each of them and two for two buddies of there's at the party. They got four bags for the two of them and two bags for their two friend. They weren't making profit off it just picked it up for their friends while getting their own. Something that any smoker would do for their friend. Same as anybody would be willing to pick up drink for their friends If asked while they were visiting an off licence. They both now have drug dealing convictions and almost went to jail for six months because do the backwards judge in the backwards town they were caught. One of them was in college to do law. Literally ruined his life all over a bag of weed. He didn't even get charged with being under the influence . All they gave a **** about was convicting two " drug dealers" and looking good for their bosses. **** the publics safety. I think driving under the influence is wrong no matter what. His stupid decision should have been driving while under the influence not being a cannabis user. When they were brought back to the station there was five guards milling around like it was the bust of the century but they clearly didn't think he was a real drug dealer because they didn't raid his house which they would have if they suspected he was.

TlDR if your against cannabis legalisation and you won't make the effort to read something that will take you three minutes your an idiot. If you read it and you still think it should be illegal you should be sterilised so as not to pass on your stupidity to future generations.

Just after waking up so excuse me for typos as it was written on IPAD

cannabis? people still inject that into themselves?