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UK man faces jail for "accidentally" slapping Ryanair stewardess on bottom

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  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 277 ✭✭BBJBIG


    Jayz - she musht have been "a fine bita sthuff" all the same ... ;)
    At laest he wasn't givin it "de hand shandy" under a newspaper ...


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,802 ✭✭✭Motivator


    I worked in a bar in Galway for a few months when I was in my early 20s. The amount of time I was harrassed by women on hen nights & work nights out was insane. I eased the pain by riding a huge number of these women. My plan was as simple as it was effective. I would pick 1 sexy old woman in a group & make sure I would wind her up to the point where she'd get egged on by the others to make a move on me. I used to play up on the fact that I was only a youngfella & it was like a red rag to a bull. They used to literally hop on me. I used to tell them which nightclubs were the best & I used to get them discounted drinks from a mate who worked in a club. I'd get them drunk, send them to him, he'd mind them for me & id show up after work & have a few drinks with them. More often than not myself & my mate would end up in the same hotel room with 2 women. I honestly think I did that more than 50 times in the 3 years I worked in the pub.

    * Oh, also I know that story had nothing to with the thread & it's topic but I just love telling that story. I also love the fact that someone reading this is thinking of the time their mother/aunt/sister/wife/girlfriend went to Galway with the girls. Yes that's right, I probably rode her.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 21,096 ✭✭✭✭McDermotX


    Motivator wrote: »
    I worked in a bar in Galway for a few months when I was in my early 20s. The amount of time I was harrassed by women on hen nights & work nights out was insane. I eased the pain by riding a huge number of these women. My plan was as simple as it was effective. I would pick 1 sexy old woman in a group & make sure I would wind her up to the point where she'd get egged on by the others to make a move on me. I used to play up on the fact that I was only a youngfella & it was like a red rag to a bull. They used to literally hop on me. I used to tell them which nightclubs were the best & I used to get them discounted drinks from a mate who worked in a club. I'd get them drunk, send them to him, he'd mind them for me & id show up after work & have a few drinks with them. More often than not myself & my mate would end up in the same hotel room with 2 women. I honestly think I did that more than 50 times in the 3 years I worked in the pub.

    * Oh, also I know that story had nothing to with the thread & it's topic but I just love telling that story. I also love the fact that someone reading this is thinking of the time their mother/aunt/sister/wife/girlfriend went to Galway with the girls. Yes that's right, I probably rode her.


    Cool story bro.....


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 157 ✭✭FudgeBrownie


    steveone wrote: »
    Did anyone see the offended bum ? Was it worth it one wonders..

    Good point. Pictures or this story isn't sh!t.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 4,916 ✭✭✭shopaholic01


    Motivator wrote: »
    I worked in a bar in Galway for a few months when I was in my early 20s. The amount of time I was harrassed by women on hen nights & work nights out was insane. I eased the pain by riding a huge number of these women. My plan was as simple as it was effective. I would pick 1 sexy old woman in a group & make sure I would wind her up to the point where she'd get egged on by the others to make a move on me. I used to play up on the fact that I was only a youngfella & it was like a red rag to a bull. They used to literally hop on me. I used to tell them which nightclubs were the best & I used to get them discounted drinks from a mate who worked in a club. I'd get them drunk, send them to him, he'd mind them for me & id show up after work & have a few drinks with them. More often than not myself & my mate would end up in the same hotel room with 2 women. I honestly think I did that more than 50 times in the 3 years I worked in the pub.

    * Oh, also I know that story had nothing to with the thread & it's topic but I just love telling that story. I also love the fact that someone reading this is thinking of the time their mother/aunt/sister/wife/girlfriend went to Galway with the girls. Yes that's right, I probably rode her.
    :eek:
    Daddy?


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 9,067 ✭✭✭Ficheall


    "“He was looking at me as if I was a piece of meat,” her statement said."

    That phrase always puzzles me. For one thing, on the rare occasions when a lass does find me attractive, it takes an awful lot of things said and hints dropped before I'd twig that she found me attractive. How come this woman tell, presumably, when someone wants to have sex with her, just by how they look at her?
    Do they do this: http://sprudge.com/wp-content/uploads/2014/02/Dan5.png ?

    Also, what on earth does she be doing in a butcher's?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,442 ✭✭✭Sulla Felix


    mike65 wrote: »
    hang on isn't that the Prenderville defence?

    I will die happy if this becomes its new name.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,861 ✭✭✭IrishEyes19


    The responses by some men here have really surprised me. this has nothing to do with a woman indecently slapping a guy. the incident in question is a man slapped a woman, focus on the issue in hand and if the table was turned, the same legal action should be taken as well. But anytime now a woman is involved in one of these cases, the male brigade come out in full force saying "if a woman did this...." well in this case she didnt.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 4,512 ✭✭✭Muise...


    The responses by some men here have really surprised me. this has nothing to do with a woman indecently slapping a guy. the incident in question is a man slapped a woman, focus on the issue in hand and if the table was turned, the same legal action should be taken as well. But anytime now a woman is involved in one of these cases, the male brigade come out in full force saying "if a woman did this...." well in this case she didnt.

    It's all the rage, this gender whataboutery -blast them with reverse the genders!!


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 567 ✭✭✭mikeymouse


    Jail is too harsh.
    The correct punishment should have been a hard slap right to his face... or the old stewardess trick (eyedrops in the tea or coffee)
    Tea or Coffee on a Ryanair flight?......
    He would have to be very drunk.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 48 Technophobia


    See its not a competition, its not a war. No one has the right to put their hands on you regardless of if you are male or female.

    We KNOW it happens to men too. We KNOW. We get it.

    He probably wont get jail time but she was in work. If one of you were in your office and did this to someone, you would be fired.



    "You know in the old days, a female member of the cabin crew would either smile through gritted teeth, come back with a witty slightly demeaning riposte or would just spit in his food later.

    Now its a a ****ing crime Does he go on the sexual offenders register?"


    So she should put up with it? This is a ridiculous post.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 3,412 ✭✭✭Shakespeare's Sister


    mike65 wrote: »
    You know in the old days, a female member of the cabin crew would either smile through gritted teeth, come back with a witty slightly demeaning riposte or would just spit in his food later.
    The good old days eh?
    I don't think this guy should be sentenced at all, and I think he was being a drunken dope rather than a monster (but what he did was still horrible for the woman) and there would be less of a big deal made in relation to a bunch of rowdy hens acting the twat towards male workers... but the above post... Jesus Christ.
    I used to work in a place where women in the 70s/80s avoided who they got into the lift with and who they'd end up in a quiet part of the building with... but so long as they smiled through gritted teeth or came back with a witty slightly demeaning riposte... as opposed to... it not happening at all being kinda better.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,337 ✭✭✭Wishiwasa Littlebitaller


    The responses by some men here have really surprised me. this has nothing to do with a woman indecently slapping a guy. the incident in question is a man slapped a woman, focus on the issue in hand and if the table was turned, the same legal action should be taken as well. But anytime now a woman is involved in one of these cases, the male brigade come out in full force saying "if a woman did this...." well in this case she didnt.

    How is people saying he should get community service, suspended sentences etc as punishment.. not focusing on the issue at hand :confused:

    Sure, some people are ALSO making the point that if a woman slapped a male stewards arse, there would be no question of her going to prison, but so what..

    I fail to see how making point #2.. somehow means point #1 was never made.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,534 ✭✭✭gctest50


    steveone wrote: »
    Did anyone see the offended bum ? Was it worth it one wonders..

    That might be the problem sure - yer man probably thought just because a few Ryanair hostesses are part-time porn stars it was ok to slap them


    https://www.google.ie/#q=edita+bente


    .


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 48 Technophobia


    Sure, some people are ALSO making the point that if a woman slapped a male stewards arse, there would be no question of her going to prison, but so what..

    I fail to see how making point #2.. somehow means point #1 was never made.[/QUOTE]

    I fail to see how making point #2 is relevant tbh. No one is arguing that it happens to men and it doesnt make it acceptable at all that it does.

    No one is saying it is ok.

    People are commenting on the actual issue that happened. If I was steaming in a bar I certainly wouldnt be slapping or groping guys. And if I were at a hen or any event and I saw a woman doing it, I would f them out of it, check the person it happened to is ok and ask do they need help to report it, whether it is to a boss, or a guard.

    This isnt a war you know. When something happens to a woman, the argument " well it happens to men too" is minimising and dismissive. Why cant we say its not all right full stop?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,442 ✭✭✭Sulla Felix


    Muise... wrote: »
    It's all the rage, this gender whataboutery -blast them with reverse the genders!!

    So when it's time to discuss gender equality in pay, or representation at the top level of various industries, it won't be relevant to bring up the fact that men get paid more and occupy more company board positions than women?
    Kind of hard to have the conversation then, no?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 4,512 ✭✭✭Muise...


    So when it's time to discuss gender equality in pay, or representation at the top level of various industries, it won't be relevant to bring up the fact that men get paid more and occupy more company board positions than women?
    Kind of hard to have the conversation then, no?

    I'm sure we'll do all the proper comparisons when such a subject comes up, but what the fnuck does it have to do with one-eyed snakes on a plane?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,442 ✭✭✭Sulla Felix


    Muise... wrote: »
    I'm sure we'll do all the proper comparisons when such a subject comes up, but what the fnuck does it have to do with one-eyed snakes on a plane?
    You're being disengenuous and you know you are. The fact that one large group of people get treated differently to another in a given situation is entirely relevant when discussing that situation.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 4,512 ✭✭✭Muise...


    You're being disengenuous and you know you are. The fact that one large group of people get treated differently to another in a given situation is entirely relevant when discussing that situation.

    The fact is that the stewardess should not have been slapped on the arse while doing her job.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,442 ✭✭✭Sulla Felix


    Muise... wrote: »
    The fact is that the stewardess should not have been slapped on the arse while doing her job.

    Agreed. Now here's what happens next. We might like to discuss other tangential issues relating to that direct issue.
    That's how a conversation works. It'd be very boring if all the threads in AH consisted of people agreeing with an initial statement and then posting no more.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 795 ✭✭✭kingchess


    I think he should pay the price for his boldness and he should be spanked.yes spanked hard,a very very hard spanking would sort him out,ohh yes indeed.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,055 ✭✭✭Hilly Bill


    Yes, not for life but a few weeks would teach him a lesson, time and time again we see people with a slew of convictions not serving time.

    It just highlights the double standard some have to sexual harrassment, they think its not a "proper crime"

    Jail for this is a bit extreme .


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,861 ✭✭✭IrishEyes19


    How is people saying he should get community service, suspended sentences etc as punishment.. not focusing on the issue at hand :confused:

    Sure, some people are ALSO making the point that if a woman slapped a male stewards arse, there would be no question of her going to prison, but so what..

    I fail to see how making point #2.. somehow means point #1 was never made.

    I said some not all.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,861 ✭✭✭IrishEyes19


    Sure, some people are ALSO making the point that if a woman slapped a male stewards arse, there would be no question of her going to prison, but so what..

    I fail to see how making point #2.. somehow means point #1 was never made.

    I fail to see how making point #2 is relevant tbh. No one is arguing that it happens to men and it doesnt make it acceptable at all that it does.

    No one is saying it is ok.

    People are commenting on the actual issue that happened. If I was steaming in a bar I certainly wouldnt be slapping or groping guys. And if I were at a hen or any event and I saw a woman doing it, I would f them out of it, check the person it happened to is ok and ask do they need help to report it, whether it is to a boss, or a guard.

    This isnt a war you know. When something happens to a woman, the argument " well it happens to men too" is minimising and dismissive. Why cant we say its not all right full stop?[/QUOTE]

    Exactly it's not a competition where you see which side gets away with it.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 16,701 ✭✭✭✭Tigger


    Jail him but not as asexual offender as assault


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 4,116 ✭✭✭RDM_83 again


    Ok while protection from sexual harassment is not some zero sum game where increased protect for woman means reduced protection for men, this is a thread about the potential for unduly harsh sentencing for what is in the light of it a fairly minor offense to send a message this should be seen in the context of the UK where they seem to be increasingly delivering some crazy charges and sentences to set examples rather than the severity of offenses themselves being the guide.
    Since a custodial charge in a case like this would be to send a message that this behavior is not tolerated to society it is relevant to argue that a double standard exists in the treatment of these incidents.
    In this particular incident the 'logical' reason why male>female harassment is viewed more severely than female<male harassment, of the disparity of power/threat between the genders doesn't really apply as it wasn't aggressive, was a singular incident, and occurred in a controlled environment.
    I am not denying that people should have a safe and respectful work environment but a prison sentence seems overly harsh, most people male or female will have been groped at some stage of their lives but does one want each of these offenders to be jailed?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 5,056 ✭✭✭_Redzer_


    not unless you reported it....a female getting groped in her workplace is different.

    I missed this. Jesus.

    I actually hope a woman gets jailed for when this happens to one of them too. I still think it would be ridiculous and way over the top, but I love equal treatment all the more.

    So if this is what you want men to get, women should get it too.

    Otherwise you're inadvertently painting women as helpless little creatures that can't stand up for themselves against the big bad men.


  • Posts: 45,738 ✭✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    Jail for slapping her ass?

    The guy was well out of order. A fine and some community service should be more than sufficent.

    As someone said, he could lose his job too.


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 277 ✭✭BBJBIG


    Bloody Nonsense.

    Bet yis all if it were George Clooney or Colin Farrell schlapped her on the arse - the
    same arse wouldn't get washed for a Munt of Sundays ... ;)

    Plus gaggin for a personal Autographs on said Hole !!!

    And, she would be showing off the Handprint and the Autograph to all d'other
    Moths down in Coppers ... not ta mention, takin selfies ...

    Fooookin madness.
    De bloody wimmins have losht the run of themselves these Days.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 9,067 ✭✭✭Ficheall


    Muise... wrote: »
    but what the fnuck does it have to do with one-eyed snakes on a plane?
    I don't think his "one-eyed snake" or, indeed, one-eyed snakes in general were mentioned anywhere at all in the report?


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