What have labour done to infuriate the public so much?

Hotale.com · 26-05-2014 06:32PM #1

To be honest I haven't payed much attention to Irish politics in the past few years. Anyone care to enlighten me why they get so much flak compared to Fine Gael?

MRnotlob606 · 26-05-2014 06:33PM

they can't stick to their own policies

suicide_circus · 26-05-2014 06:33PM

People dont like reality

The One Who Knocks · 26-05-2014 06:34PM

Basically blame whoever's in government for the country's problems.

Nabber · 26-05-2014 06:35PM

Hyperbolic promises I'd imagine.

noby · 26-05-2014 06:35PM

They're the junior coalition party - ergo they get the hammering.

Also, unfulfilling a lot of (empty) promises.

ryan101 · 26-05-2014 06:35PM

They told more lies than any other party, even more than FG/FF/SF, and that is saying something. They became FG's mudflaps, and let FG away with taxing, stealthing and levying the ordinary working person to death, while the rich and connected are protected time and time again, just like the Greens became FF's mudflaps. Labour allowed FG to protect the wealthy and connected in this country from any austerity, while ensuring austerity for ordinary working people. Not that the Labour ministers involved give a shyte now that they already qualified for massive pensions for life.
The Independents, as bad as they are, are the only option left for honest voters in this country.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Kpr2zaXvb4M

The Backwards Man · 26-05-2014 06:36PM

Purple want governments to give them what they want, not what they need.

The trouble with democracy is people.

wazky · 26-05-2014 06:36PM

No free cheese initiatives

quickbeam · 26-05-2014 06:38PM

I think it's unfair that the *minority* party gets the *majority* of flak at voting time. FG should be as decimated as Labour is this weekend.

People are angry because of the broken promises. The Water Charges, the Household Tax, compulsory health insurance, medical cards, garda controversies.

But don't kid yourself. The other crowd wouldn't have done any better.

Striving470 · 26-05-2014 06:38PM

Spineless scumbags.

Muise... · 26-05-2014 06:39PM

The One Who Knocks wrote: »

Basically blame the smaller party in the coalition whoever's in government for the country's problems.

This is why the Greens got decimated last time, yet FF are on the upward swing.

Hotale.com · 26-05-2014 06:39PM

Striving470 wrote: »

Spineless scumbags.

But what's the difference between them and FG in that regard?

del roy · 26-05-2014 06:39PM

made promises they could/would not keep.

childrens allowance
water rates
property tax.
caps on high paid advisors wages

All ingored.

The One Who Knocks · 26-05-2014 06:40PM

ryan101 wrote: »

They became FG's mudflaps, and let FG away with taxing, stealthing and levying the ordinary working person to death, while the rich are protected time and time again, just like the Greens became FF's mudflaps.

Oh, did they get rid of the standard rate cut off?

road_high · 26-05-2014 06:40PM

suicide_circus wrote: »

People dont like reality

Fact. Tell them there's a free money tree to end austerity and watch the votes roll in.

Custardpi · 26-05-2014 06:41PM

ryan101 wrote: »

They became FG's mudflaps, and let FG away with taxing, stealthing and levying the ordinary working person to death, while the rich are protected time and time again, just like the Greens became FF's mudflaps.

And yet FF have now recovered to being the largest party in the state. Labour are probably screwed for 10 years or so while the Greens are only starting to make modest gains again. FF will probably return to government after the next GE, completely forgiven by the electorate for their mismanagement of the economy. Irish politics really is a joke.

Turtwig · 26-05-2014 06:41PM

Made pre-election promises they knew they couldn't keep. Failed promised are now biting them in the ass.

Don't think they did a bad job in Government, so I have a little sympathy there. But they set themselves up for the spectacular fall the moment they made those promises and decided to join government. Politically the party would have been far far wiser to stay in opposition but they choose to join the government and you reap what you sow. I guess, some of them cared about the country, or wanted the power, whichever, it doesn't matter really. They made promises and then in the eyes of the public they shat on those promises.

Hotale.com · 26-05-2014 06:42PM

Custardpi wrote: »

And yet FF have now recovered to being the largest party in the state. Labour are probably screwed for 10 years or so while the Greens are only starting to make modest gains again. FF will probably return to government after the next GE, completely forgiven by the electorate for their mismanagement of the economy. Irish politics really is a joke.

Didn't FF support fall compared to the last local election?

Richard Hillman · 26-05-2014 06:42PM

My unhappiness about them (and mainly Joan Burton) is that they wouldnt allow FG to make cuts in Social Welfare. The only cuts were to the wrong people (people with disabilities and the very sick). They wouldnt go after the careered unemployed and career mothers who splurt out **** loads of kids they cant afford.

Dark sun · 26-05-2014 06:43PM

NOTHING, that's the problem.

Striving470 · 26-05-2014 06:43PM

Hotale.com wrote: »

But what's the difference between them and FG in that regard?

Fine Gael arnt necessarily spineless...there just bigger scumbags.

suicide_circus · 26-05-2014 06:44PM

road_high wrote: »

Fact. Tell them there's a free money tree to end austerity and watch the votes roll in.

"Tell me lies, tell me sweet little lies.." /fleetwood mac

darkpagandeath · 26-05-2014 06:45PM

They could have at least pressured FG to go after the write down and play hardball and not roll over. They were to busy blindly following the Troika’s budgets. The government in General has just wanted to be the bail out poster boy. The is a reason we never got the write down, We never made a big issue about it And the big players in the EU are happy to say No when were just going ahhh go on...

road_high wrote: »

Fact. Tell them there's a free money tree to end austerity and watch the votes roll in.

There is one The banks have it and are not willing to share it.

The Backwards Man · 26-05-2014 06:47PM

Muise... wrote: »

This is why the Greens got decimated last time, yet FF are on the upward swing.

The FF surge is largely down to a wave of their supporters who protest voted for Labour in the GE slithering back where they came from, I'd imagine.

Firefox11 · 26-05-2014 06:47PM

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Kpr2zaXvb4M

Turned out to be Frankfurt's in the end eh?....:cool:

titan18 · 26-05-2014 06:48PM

They told people they'd give them all free stuff before the election to get into power.

Once they got in, they realised it's not possible, so the people voted for the party offering them more free stuff

suicide_circus · 26-05-2014 06:48PM

darkpagandeath wrote: »

They could have at least pressured FG to go after the right down and play hardball and not roll over. They were to busy blindly following the Troika’s budgets. The government in General has just wanted to be the bail out poster boy. The is a reason we never got the right down, We never made a big issue about it And the big players in the EU are happy to say No when were just going ahhh go on...

The troika being the ones who lend us the money to run our bloated public service and unsustainable social welfare? Yeah I'm pretty sure theyre budget was gonna be followed no matter who was in government.

Custardpi · 26-05-2014 06:50PM

Richard Hillman wrote: »

My unhappiness about them (and mainly Joan Burton) is that they wouldnt allow FG to make cuts in Social Welfare. The only cuts were to the wrong people (people with disabilities and the very sick). They wouldnt go after the careered unemployed and career mothers who splurt out **** loads of kids they cant afford.

You do realise that most people currently unemployed (and those on reduced hours) were working when times were better & will work again when there's more jobs. The tracksuiters in the bookies all day are a small minority of those on JSA/JSB. There is simply a massive shortage of jobs in the country which only mass emigration has alleviated to any great extent. Things are getting a bit better but that's still no reason to punish people down on their luck. There quite simply aren't enough jobs to push people into, however much you slash welfare.

darkpagandeath · 26-05-2014 06:51PM

suicide_circus wrote: »

The troika being the ones who lend us the money to run our bloated public service and unsustainable social welfare? Yeah I'm pretty sure theyre budget was gonna be followed no matter who was in government.

When did Social welfare bring the country to it's Knees ? You mean all the people on it now that don't have a job since the start of the bailout ?

SEPT 23 1989 · 26-05-2014 06:54PM

Well for starters The blustering red faced windbag millionaire socialist promised so much before the election and then when his tissue of lies got him elected the coward hid in foreign affairs

What have labour done to infuriate the public so much?

Do Labour deserve all the flak they're getting? 95 votes

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