7 dead in Californian Shooting

Mars Bar wrote: »

Read the epilogue. He basically says that only he is second to god. He suffered from a severe case of grand delusion.



The chances are you wouldn't have seen it before it was too late. The original date (actually, it was supposed to happen in October 2013 but he broke his ankle) was the 26th of April but he got a cold a couple of days beforehand as he was just going to re-upload his videos and upload the manifesto. He postponed it all for the 24th of May.

Lou.m wrote: »

No you would do what his own parents did ..which was call the police and report him.

They did this ...the police did nothing.

Mars Bar wrote: »

That was his step-mother and he has portrayed her as a bitch. She ruled the roost and he didn't like that.

His mother is from China and he got on well with her for the most part.

This guy was unbelievable. He wouldn't take a retail job coz it was beneath him. He was disgusted to have been housed with Hispanics in Santa Barbara. He said he was above black people coz they came from slaves and he from English Aristocracy.

He demanded his mother marry one of her well classed boyfriends so HE could have a better life.

Seriously today at my college I saw this short ugly Indian guy driving a Honda Civic and he had a hot blonde girl in his passenger seat. What on earth is up with that? I would climb mount Everest ten times to have a girl like that with me. I drive a BMW coupe and all of my life I've struggled to get a girlfriend. Does anyone else get disturbed and offended when you see sights like this? Someone make sense of this ridiculousness

lol I don't get offended
But then again I don't have trouble with women
He probably has power and wealth and She is probably drawn to that

Did you even read my post he was driving a Honda Civic an old model Honda Civic at that?

"I find it unjust that a white girl would choose him over me."

Go to places where there are lots of people. I've seen it a few times at college campuses. The guys aren't even rich I saw one such couple get into a beat up car. Seeing a poor ugly guy with a hot girl actually makes me more angry than a good looking guy with a hot girl because it doesn't make sense

In his videos and Facebook postings, Rodger also makes a point to flaunt and play up his status and wealth. Many of his Facebook photos are of his BMW coupe and the Mercedes SUV, which belong to his father. In his videos, he frequently alludes to his designer clothes and expensive cars.

Reading his manifesto, however, it becomes clear that although Rodger and his family are well-off, they aren't as "rich" as he wishes. Rodger frequently compares his own status against that of his peers. Whether it is being embarrassed by the neighborhood his mother lives in, or wanting to prove his affluence through the purchase of expensive clothing or vacations, Rodger presents an image of never feeling good enough.

"I will always resent my mother for refusing to do this. If not for her sake, she should have done it for mine.[/COLOR] Joining a family of great wealth would have truly saved my life. I would have a high enough status to attract beautiful girlfriends, and live above all of my enemies. All of my horrific troubles would have been eased instantly. It is very selfish of my mother to not consider this.

Rodger had what appears to have been an idyllic start in life, moving to the Sussex countryside where he attended Dorset House, a fee-paying school on the South Downs. In his writing, he described the area fondly, recalling time spent with his grandparents, and the day he learned to fly a kite on the rolling hills with his father, Peter. Sussex, he wrote, “was where I spent my early childhood the first five years of my life, and it was beautiful”.

It was to this period that he frequently returned in his thoughts, describing his experiences on the school sports field as “the first inkling of my shortcomings”. Those shortcomings would eventually give way to feelings of alienation and self-pity, which came to manifest themselves in a hatred of women, whom Rodger believed had slighted and ignored him.

Rodger’s parents’ divorce, shortly after his seventh birthday, appeared to affect him deeply. “I believe it was my mother who told me that she and my father were getting a divorce; my mother, who only a few months before told me that such a thing will never happen,”But by then he had already been scarred by the divorce. “The family I grew up with has split in half,” he wrote, “and from then on I would grow up in two different households. I remember crying. All the happy times I spent with my mother and father as a family were gone.”

After his father remarried, Rodger wrote that his relationship with his step-mother, the Moroccan-born French actress Soumaya Akaaboune, became increasingly tense. He also began to find social interaction difficult. His paranoia left him adrift from society and unable to forge meaningful friendships.

One of the most unusual elements of the lengthy document is the record of his encounters with a girl of around his own age, who is understood to be the daughter of a British musician. She would, he wrote, “eventually come to represent everything I hate and despise; everything that is against me, everything that I’m against. I was playing innocently with this girl. We even took baths together; it was the only time in my life that I would see a girl my age naked.”

By 13, Rodger stated, he was known as the “weird kid” at his school. He saw all girls as “mean, cruel, and heartless creatures that took pleasure in my suffering”. He retreated deeper and deeper into the world of online role-playing games, his favourite being World of Warcraft, which he would play for hours, according to the manifesto.

His parting words betray no suggestion of last-minute reflection. Pages and pages of violent, misogynistic ramblings end with a promise to follow through: “I didn’t start this war. I wasn’t the one who struck first. But I will finish it by striking back. I will punish everyone. And it will be beautiful. Finally, at long last, I can show the world my true worth.”

Rodger also wrote that he had originally considered carrying out his murderous plan on Valentine’s Day. He then chose 26 April, but was forced to postpone his rampage when he came down with a cold.

Mars Bar wrote: »

I'm nearly finished skimming through the manifesto. He was one sick puppy.

sadie06 wrote: »

I'm not going to plough through his printed ramblings, but his video is incredibly rehearsed and measured. The mask slips every now and then though. He lets out these short sighs that really sound so full of angst and give a far bigger insight into his state of mind then his Hollywood villain-style delivery.

I feel race had a lot to do with this. He seems embarrassed by his own racial mix and fixated on what he perceived as white supremacy. People with Aspergers tend to obsess about a few strands in their life that surface as common themes in their early years. His obsessions seem to have been his family's wealth (both historically and presently) and the 'things' that wealth should bring, girls being one of them. His other obsession seems to have been 'whiteness' and even different levels of whiteness, and what being lighter skinned should bring to you in life.

The empathetic deficit caused by his Aspergers must have fed into him elevating these so called attributes to a level where he believed all you needed to 'get' a beautiful, white, hot girl was obvious wealth, and light skin.

From his narrow viewpoint, he was never going to be any better equipped than he was now to succeed with girls, so they must be the problem! He was extremely ill I think, and one thing to be thankful for is that he didn't meet a like minded individual on one of the many fora he frequented which could have resulted in even greater losses.

Surely one of the questions on a form when being assessed for suitability for gun ownership should be 'Are you seeing a therapist/psychiatrist?". If the answer is yes, a medical report should have to be submitted by your practitioner.

It's such a sad situation for the victim's families, but for his family also who must live with what he has done, and no doubt question every decision they ever made in the past.

Wibbs wrote: »

Plus one. From my reading of it whatever disorder was going on was more of a narcissistic nature. An inherent weakness fueled by a sense of self entitlement coming with an often ivory tower self indulgent streak in this sort of background. He found out life isn't fair and money, background and car doesn't get you what you want. Throw that into the mix with a serious mental disorder and this crap kicks off. Here's another Hollywood kid who flipped too, only this one used a car rather than a gun.