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7 dead in Californian Shooting

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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 753 ✭✭✭Jonny Blaze


    Someone should have told him about hookers..


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,559 ✭✭✭blaze1


    Dude needed lighten the fcuk up and try and speak to people.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 9,396 ✭✭✭Frosty McSnowballs


    What a needless waste of lives. I'm not even going to make a joke.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,547 ✭✭✭Foxhound38


    How many times does some unhinged nutcase need to shoot up a school before the US does something about its gun culture?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 7,752 ✭✭✭pablomakaveli


    Not surprised he was a virgin. Creepy bitter guys don't exactly scream "good boyfriend" to women. Thing is guys like him never want to accept the fact that they are the problem not the women.


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 4,512 ✭✭✭Muise...


    I thought he'd have a bit of an edge, what with the pscyhokiller stuff and all, but that is one tedious bore of a monologue.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,383 ✭✭✭✭Birneybau


    Great thread title...


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 4,042 ✭✭✭zl1whqvjs75cdy


    Sad. The guy clearly needed professional help before it got to that stage. I mean Jesus we've all been pissed off with women but we don't go around shooting up the place.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 909 ✭✭✭auldgranny


    OP needs to use a less frivolous title when people have been murdered.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 7,752 ✭✭✭pablomakaveli


    Foxhound38 wrote: »
    How many times does some unhinged nutcase need to shoot up a school before the US does something about its gun culture?

    I don't think there's any point trying to argue it anymore. It's far too ingrained into their culture over there.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 909 ✭✭✭auldgranny


    Birneybau wrote: »
    Great thread title...

    Just beat me to it.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,547 ✭✭✭Titzon Toast


    He didn't half come across as an arrogant ****er in that video did he? Also, a student driving a nice Beemer? Privileged spoiled asshole.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 15,812 ✭✭✭✭Witcher


    Foxhound38 wrote: »
    How many times does some unhinged nutcase need to shoot up a school before the US does something about its gun culture?

    California has the tightest gun laws in the US. Tighter than here in some respects.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,811 ✭✭✭Gone Drinking


    To those of you going off on one about the thread title, we're in after hours here..

    But to note, my aim was to disrespect the dick who did the shooting, not any of the victims.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 909 ✭✭✭auldgranny


    To those of you going off on one about the thread title, we're in after hours here..

    But to note, my aim was to disrespect the dick who did the shooting, not any of the victims.

    Your aim was to be clever. Which you were not.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 13,581 ✭✭✭✭kowloon


    Not very far into it, but the video looks like bad acting more than anything, doesn't seem like someone who is actually angry.


  • Posts: 50,630 ✭✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    To those of you going off on one about the thread title, we're in after hours here..

    But to note, my aim was to disrespect the dick who did the shooting, not any of the victims.

    Yes. You're in After Hours, that doesn't mean you get to be a dick.

    Thread title amended.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 252 ✭✭A Greedy Algorithm


    The kid seems like he would be a good actor, pity he decided to become a mass murderer instead.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 548 ✭✭✭Nwm2


    Foxhound38 wrote: »
    How many times does some unhinged nutcase need to shoot up a school before the US does something about its gun culture?

    Doesn't matter how often this happens, because this is what NRA/Gun nuts will say: It is more evidence that everyone should be armed. The answer to gun violence is more guns. Banning guns means the criminals will still be able to get guns (given >100 millions guns existing in the wild), only the law abiding citizens will be prevented from doing so. To prevent gun violence at high schools etc, arm the teachers and have armed cops/security guards permanently on-premises.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 88,972 ✭✭✭✭mike65


    Depending on how you see the world this merely proves you can't have enough -

    Sex
    Guns
    Psychoanalysis


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  • Posts: 50,630 ✭✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    Mod

    Posts deleted. Drop the thread title discussion and get back to the actual topic.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 13,581 ✭✭✭✭kowloon


    Finished it now, first time I've seen any of these vids (I gather there are a few). It really does look like something you would expect from a student film, like he's trying really hard to look like a villain, the fake evil laugh to go with it.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,894 ✭✭✭UCDVet


    Foxhound38 wrote: »
    How many times does some unhinged nutcase need to shoot up a school before the US does something about its gun culture?

    They passed laws making schools gun-free zones. Problem solved.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,903 ✭✭✭frozenfrozen


    This kind of thing happens so frequently it's terrible.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 32,956 ✭✭✭✭Omackeral


    Reminds me of this absolute creep from a couple years back. Same tone of voice and eerie snigger.






  • Closed Accounts Posts: 7,752 ✭✭✭pablomakaveli


    Omackeral wrote: »
    Reminds me of this absolute creep from a couple years back. Same tone of voice and eerie snigger.

    Did that guy kill people as well?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,337 ✭✭✭Wishiwasa Littlebitaller


    Guy was obviously mentally ill if he wanted to kill random innocent people, just cause he could never get a girlfriend.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,896 ✭✭✭Hande hoche!


    Seems like a bit of a nutter. RIP to his victims.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,303 ✭✭✭Temptamperu


    Blay wrote: »
    California has the tightest gun laws in the US. Tighter than here in some respects.

    yes but the illegal gun sellers don't have to worry about those laws.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 20,592 ✭✭✭✭kneemos


    kowloon wrote: »
    Finished it now, first time I've seen any of these vids (I gather there are a few). It really does look like something you would expect from a student film, like he's trying really hard to look like a villain, the fake evil laugh to go with it.

    Or he's completely lost the plot.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 15,812 ✭✭✭✭Witcher


    yes but the illegal gun sellers don't have to worry about those laws.

    Illegal gun sellers don't worry about the law anywhere. How do you think criminals here get firearms?


  • Users Awaiting Email Confirmation Posts: 30 blackbaron


    Foxhound38 wrote: »
    How many times does some unhinged nutcase need to shoot up a school before the US does something about its gun culture?

    77 young people were murdered in one day in Norway in 2011.

    How many more deaths does Norway need in order to do something about its gun culture?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,717 ✭✭✭YFlyer


    Stress reduction techniques should be introduced into the education system to help students to cope.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,349 ✭✭✭OneEightSeven


    You can tell he's desperately trying to portray himself as an evil villain with that faux-evil laugh he comes out with whenever mentions he's wants to annihilate someone.

    If you Google his name, you'll find his Facebook.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 13,295 ✭✭✭✭Duggy747


    Fairly forceful with the evil retribution monologue and cackles in the video, alright.

    His father is a cameraman who worked on The Hunger Games film, this is the shooter with him at the premiere.

    He talked about guys living a better life than him while he came from a fairly good background himself.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 13,581 ✭✭✭✭kowloon


    kneemos wrote: »
    Or he's completely lost the plot.

    No doubt, but it seems like he was acting out the part. I wonder how many of these people are playing the role for the notoriety. They want to be a character in their own drama to get attention?
    Don't they say the more these things are sensationalised the more others want the same notoriety? It's part of the reason I don't tend to give these stories, and the killer's videos, much time. This time curiosity got the better of me and I clicked.
    Maybe someone who knows about this sort of thing can explain the phenomenon to me?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,147 ✭✭✭PizzamanIRL


    WTF? He is absolutely deluded. he has no idea how relationships work. He expects everything to fall into place just because he wants it and because other people are getting it. He's a spoilt self-entitled creep.

    Some people's brains just function completely backwards

    He acted like the pathetic little man he was too by doing a drive by instead of what he initially said he would. Not that it matters.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,337 ✭✭✭Wishiwasa Littlebitaller


    He definitely spent 99% of that video with his focus firmly on how he would be seen afterwards and controlling that, rather than focused on any kind of genuine anger. I didn't really get a sense of anger at all, tbh. Surely someone would be seething as they discussed something which they were so angry over, that they were will to kill random strangers.

    I'm obviously no criminal psychologist and so my opinion* is just that of an ordinary Joe here, but my call on this, is that this guy's real issues had nothing to do with not being able to pull women, but that he was in fact, a megalomaniac, who couldn't cope with the fact that he didn't have the power that he fantasized that he had / wanted to have. Compounded now doubt, by the fact that his father worked with, and no doubt respected greatly, people who did have that kind of power: celebrities.

    I did watch all episodes of Cracker though, so surely that lends weight to my opinion.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,147 ✭✭✭PizzamanIRL


    The chap was obsessed with trying to get sex. What a gob****e reason to want to kill people.

    https://www.youtube.com/user/ElliotRodger/videos


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    Duggy747 wrote: »
    Fairly forceful with the evil retribution monologue and cackles in the video, alright.

    His father is a cameraman who worked on The Hunger Games film, this is the shooter with him at the premiere.

    He talked about guys living a better life than him while he came from a fairly good background himself.

    A director actually, assistant director of the hunger games.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 909 ✭✭✭auldgranny


    kowloon wrote: »
    Finished it now, first time I've seen any of these vids (I gather there are a few). It really does look like something you would expect from a student film, like he's trying really hard to look like a villain, the fake evil laugh to go with it.

    Agree. I have just looked at it now. I didn't see a tortured soul who craved acceptance or love or sex. He definitely looked like he was playing a part and "fake evil laugh" spot on!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 179 ✭✭AlwaysAnyTime


    Why do serial killers love Phil Collins music so much ?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,547 ✭✭✭Foxhound38


    blackbaron wrote: »
    77 young people were murdered in one day in Norway in 2011.

    How many more deaths does Norway need in order to do something about its gun culture?

    How often does this stuff happen in other industrialized nations?

    How often does it happen in the US?

    A quick comparison is all that is needed.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 88,972 ✭✭✭✭mike65


    Norway is famous for its massacres (in the 10th century)


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 15,812 ✭✭✭✭Witcher


    Foxhound38 wrote: »
    How often does this stuff happen in other industrialized nations?

    How often does it happen in the US?

    A quick comparison is all that is needed.

    How many industrialised nations have the population of the US? You'd have to take the figures for shootings from most of the EU and compare it to the US for a fair comparison.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 4,512 ✭✭✭Muise...


    The chap was obsessed with trying to get sex. What a gob****e reason to want to kill people.

    https://www.youtube.com/user/ElliotRodger/videos

    And to get sex as if it was some sort of entitlement that the "sluts" were denying him. He couldn't just walk home from a failed move, crestfallen, with his heart like a stone in his shoes, like the rest of us have to. :mad:


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,147 ✭✭✭PizzamanIRL


    Muise... wrote: »
    And to get sex as if it was some sort of entitlement that the "sluts" were denying him. He couldn't just walk home from a failed move, crestfallen, with his heart like a stone in his shoes, like the rest of us have to. :mad:

    Oh no way, not in America where you have a BMW at 22 and live a priviliged, self-entitled life where you make videos claiming to be awesome and expect girls to fall to your feet. Absolute selfish dick head.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,349 ✭✭✭OneEightSeven


    Check out this one:



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,896 ✭✭✭Hande hoche!


    Check out this one:


    "I take my usual walk at the golf course, while I explain how unfair my life has been."

    Wow.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 11,835 ✭✭✭✭cloud493


    If this wasn't such a serious matter, those videos would seem like spoofs or parody or something. Jesus, poor sods. What a stupid waste of life.


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