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Low voter turn out in Dublin

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 13,244 ✭✭✭✭bnt


    It did rain a bit in Dublin on Friday, that's always bad for the turnout. But I do agree with the people who can't find anyone in there to vote for. I looked and saw too many protest candidates: OK, so we know what you're against (bankers, water charges, capitalism, etc.), now what are you for?

    Government resting upon the will and universal suffrage of the people has no anchorage except in the people's intelligence.

    — Grover Cleveland



  • Closed Accounts Posts: 54 ✭✭Follaton_Wood


    I'm not registered to vote. I always said I wouldn't register until I actually believed in the system. Can't see that happening any time soon.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 12,395 ✭✭✭✭mikemac1


    Mikros wrote: »
    I'd imagine because of the more transient nature of the population in Dublin (people moving around a lot more), the electoral registers are way off and as such the % turnout looks worse than it would be if the register was more accurate.

    I did work on that back around 2005/2006 when Dick Roche got hammered in the media over inaccurate registers.

    So Fingal council and others were ordered to pound the streets and knock on doors. My landlord worked on the council and got me some paid work. Always the way, who you know ;)

    I believe we did a very good job at the time! :)

    Maybe time for another run to get it sorted before the next GE


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 13,598 ✭✭✭✭Aidric


    Don't European elctions normally get a low turn out anyway? Not that surprising really.

    Yep. Read earlier that turnout in the Czech Republic was 20%. That figure speaks volumes and should raise concerns.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 226 ✭✭oak5548


    strobe wrote: »
    Because people in Dublin have jobs to do and lives to live whereas people from the country do nothing but sit around petting cows and drinking tea and waiting around for election day so they can stroll down and choose between their next door neighbour or their uncle in terms of who is most likely to get that new cattle grid installed... obviously.

    Sad thing is, this is what a lot of people like yourself actually believe.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,203 ✭✭✭moxin


    UCDVet wrote: »
    I could be wrong, but I remember being told that Dublin had a very high percentage of immigrants. I'd expect them to have a lower turnout than Irish, but again, I'm just guessing based on my own experience. I don't have any studies or facts :)

    In my workplace, most immigrants from the old Eastern Bloc. They have zero interest in voting as per their words they are not long term stayers here.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 4,179 ✭✭✭hfallada


    Depends on the area. In middle class and upper class areas, nearly everyone votes. But turnout is low in working class areas.

    Its hard to vote in Dublin, when most polling stations dont have parking


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 19,801 ✭✭✭✭suicide_circus


    UCDVet wrote: »
    I'm probably wrong, but whenever I walk around the streets of Dublin, I get the distinct impression a very large percentage of the population isn't Irish. In my (admittedly limited) experience, most of them don't seem to know or care about voting. Honestly, I don't even know if they can vote.
    I am one of two irish born people in the apartment block I live in (dub cc).Huge amount of south americans in Dublin at the moment "learning english".


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,180 ✭✭✭EyeSight


    I didn't vote because no candidate or party deserved mine. I didn't agree with any of them

    I think it's better to not vote than vote just for the sake of it


  • Posts: 17,847 ✭✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    I'm not registered to vote. I always said I wouldn't register until I actually believed in the system. Can't see that happening any time soon.

    How do you plan on changing the system if you have no input?


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,215 ✭✭✭✭salmocab


    there are 3 votes registered to my house and only one, me, lives here the others are long gone presumably the people we bought the house off. Id imagine there is a massive difference in the electoral register in Dublin compared to the actual voters due to a large enough city having a more transient population compared to rural areas.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 3,335 ✭✭✭wendell borton


    gerard_65 wrote: »
    At least we don't elect Lowry or Healy-Rae.

    Well ye did elect bertie the biggest cowboy of them all.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,304 ✭✭✭jackofalltrades


    Low voter turn out in Dublin
    What's your source for this?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 710 ✭✭✭Reformed Character


    But Dubs consistently turn out in much lower numbers than the rest of the country, despite their continuous foghorn vocal protests.

    Do you have any actual evidence of this consistently lower turnout in Dublin?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 13,277 ✭✭✭✭How Soon Is Now


    UCDVet wrote: »
    I'm probably wrong, but whenever I walk around the streets of Dublin, I get the distinct impression a very large percentage of the population isn't Irish. In my (admittedly limited) experience, most of them don't seem to know or care about voting. Honestly, I don't even know if they can vote.

    Haha :pac: someone is going to know why i find this funny.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 829 ✭✭✭smellmepower


    Only reason I voted was to give Kenny Egan my last place vote,prick will probably still be elected though.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,666 ✭✭✭Rosy Posy


    Mikros wrote: »
    I'd imagine because of the more transient nature of the population in Dublin (people moving around a lot more), the electoral registers are way off and as such the % turnout looks worse than it would be if the register was more accurate.

    I'm still registered to vote in Dublin despite being emigrated eight years. My parents keep sending off the forms as part of their delusion that I'm coming back one day.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,309 ✭✭✭✭B.A._Baracus


    I did not vote.
    I just view elections as which crook you like the most. They're all the same.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,215 ✭✭✭✭salmocab


    Only reason I voted was to give Kenny Egan my last place vote,prick will probably still be elected though.

    If you think he's a prick why didn't you just not give him any vote at all?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,960 ✭✭✭DeanAustin


    I did not vote.
    I just view elections as which crook you like the most. They're all the same.

    So you think Enda is the same as Lowry? Noonan is the same as Healy-Rae?

    Really?


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,794 ✭✭✭Aongus Von Bismarck


    DeanAustin wrote: »
    So you think Enda is the same as Lowry? Noonan is the same as Healy-Rae?

    Really?

    He hasn't given it any thought. Its the same tired old slogans people spout out when they're too intellectually lazy to inform themselves.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 710 ✭✭✭Reformed Character


    He hasn't given it any thought. Its the same tired old slogans people spout out when they're too intellectually lazy to inform themselves.
    Like those who make wild, inaccurate, and factually incorrect statement about Dublin and its population, just so they can appear to be controversial?:rolleyes:


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,794 ✭✭✭Aongus Von Bismarck


    upyores wrote: »
    Like those who make wild, inaccurate, and factually incorrect statement about Dublin and its population, just so they can appear to be controversial?:rolleyes:

    What is factually incorrect? Voters in Dublin turn out in lower numbers than the rest of the populace. That's a fact.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,585 ✭✭✭✭Collie D


    What is factually incorrect? Voters in Dublin turn out in lower numbers than the rest of the populace. That's a fact.

    So back it up with facts. I don't know the figures and have no reason to think you're making it up but proof is always nice.

    Especially when your opening post just sounds like a rant against Dublin.

    In short prove it or **** off


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 710 ✭✭✭Reformed Character


    The national average turnout level for the 2013 Seanad Referendum was 39.23% (the turnout level for the other referendum on the Court of Appeal) was 39.15%), but this masks significant variations across the state at the (Dáil) constituency level, as shown by Figure 1 above. The highest turnout level was associated with the Dublin North-Central constituency (48.20%), with notably higher than average turnout levels also being associated with the Dún Laoghaire (46.16%), Dublin South (45.96%) and Wicklow (45.09%) constituencies. By contrast, the lowest referendum turnout levels were associated with the two Donegal constituencies – Donegal North-East (29.24%) and Donegal South-West (30.47%) – and Cavan-Monaghan (34.48%).
    http://adriankavanaghelections.org/2013/11/19/geography-and-elections-2014-seanad-referendum-voter-turnout-levels-in-dublin-city/


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,917 ✭✭✭Dr. Bre


    I often find when I chat to a "tru-blu salt a' de aaiirrth" Dub, that they are the most vocal about how the government are absolutely terrible, how they're all a bunch of cowboys, etc. etc.

    In my experience Dubs moan the most about the political issues of the day. However, consistently, in every single election, Dublin registers the lowest voter turnout. Yesterday's was no exception.

    Why is that? Are Dubs all talk, but when it actually comes to exercising their political rights, they really don't care all that much?

    somebody's annoyed by the election results and is looking to blame...


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 4,402 ✭✭✭nxbyveromdwjpg


    Voters in Dublin turn out in lower numbers than the rest of the populace. That's a fact.
    upyores wrote: »
    The highest turnout level was associated with the Dublin North-Central constituency (48.20%), with notably higher than average turnout levels also being associated with the Dún Laoghaire (46.16%), Dublin South (45.96%) and Wicklow (45.09%) constituencies. By contrast, the lowest referendum turnout levels were associated with the two Donegal constituencies – Donegal North-East (29.24%) and Donegal South-West (30.47%) – and Cavan-Monaghan (34.48%).
    http://adriankavanaghelections.org/2013/11/19/geography-and-elections-2014-seanad-referendum-voter-turnout-levels-in-dublin-city/

    Ha ha. Love boards


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,794 ✭✭✭Aongus Von Bismarck


    nm wrote: »
    Ha ha. Love boards

    Don't get too excited. He picked the anomaly rather than the trend. Very dishonest of him.
    While turnout levels within the City constituencies had increased by over ten percent within a period of (less than) nine years, the average Dublin City turnout level still remained lower than the national average (69.9%), in keeping with the general trend in turnout geographies for general and local elections wherein turnout levels tend to be higher in rural areas/constituencies than in urban areas/constituencies.


  • Moderators, Education Moderators Posts: 26,424 Mod ✭✭✭✭Peregrine


    Children's referendum 2012:

    Average national turnout: 33.5%

    1328 Dublin North West has narrowly voted to reject the referendum – No 50.39% Yes 49.61%. Turnout was 36%.

    1327 Dublin North Central has passed the referendum – Yes 63.31% No 36.69%. Turnout was 42%.

    1327 Dublin West has approved the referendum – Yes 60.84% No 39.16%. Turnout was 35%.

    1324 Dublin South West has passed the referendum – Yes 51.93% 48.07%. Turnout was 36%.

    1323 Dublin North East has voted in favour of the referendum – Yes 60.10% No 30.90%. Turnout was 39%.

    1319 Dublin Central has passed the referendum – Yes 58.65% No 41.35%. Turnout was 32%.

    1317 Dublin South Central has voted in favour of the referendum – Yes 54.89% No 45.11%. Turnout was 35%.

    1311 Dublin Mid-West has passed the referendum, becoming the first Dublin constituency to announce an official result – Yes 55.21% No 44.79%. Turnout was 35%.

    1334 Dublin South East has approved the referendum – Yes 71.87% No 28.13%. Turnout 34%.

    1333 Dublin North has passed the referendum - Yes 64.83% No 35.17%. Turnout was 36%.

    1332 Dublin South has passed the referendum – Yes 73.03% No 26.97%. Turnout was 41%.

    1338 Dún Laoghaire has passed the referendum – Yes 71.57% No 28.43%. Turnout was 42%.


    Rest of the country:

    1314 Kildare South has passed the referendum – Yes 57.79% No 42.21%. Turnout was 29%.

    1312 Louth has approved the referendum – Yes 53.09% No 46.91%. It had looked earlier that the constituency would return a No vote. Turnout was 32%.

    1257 Galway West has passed the referendum – Yes 62.20% 37.80%. Turnout was 28%.

    1255 Wexford has voted in favour of the referendum – Yes 54.83% No 45.17%. Turnout was 33%.

    1254 Mayo has passed the referendum - Yes 53.01% No 46.99%. Turnout was 32%.

    1253 Roscommon-South Leitrim has approved the referendum – Yes 52.92% No 47.08%. Turnout was 34%.

    1252 Kerry North-Limerick West has voted in favour of the referendum – Yes 53.65% No 46.35%. Turnout was 29%.

    1248 Meath East has voted in favour of the referendum – Yes 59.80% No 40.20%. Turnout was 32%.

    1243 Laois-Offaly has accepted the referendum – Yes 53.66% No 46.34%. Turnout was 32%.

    1243 Wicklow has passed the referendum – Yes 59.99% No 40.01%. Turnout was 40%.

    1241 Clare has voted in favour of the referendum - Yes 61.71% No 38.29%. Turnout was 32%.

    1235 Carlow-Kilkenny has passed the referendum – Yes 59.18% No 40.82%. Turnout was 34%.

    1232 Waterford has voted in favour of the referendum – Yes 55.95% No 44.05%. Turnout was 35%.

    1232 Longford-Westmeath has approved the referendum – Yes 54.88% No 45.12%. Turnout was 31%.

    1227 Cork South Central has passed the referendum – Yes 59.52% No 40.48%. Turnout was 36%.

    1223 Kerry South has voted in favour of the referendum – Yes 57.06% No 42.94%. Turnout was 29%.

    I'm just copy pasting the ones I see from here:
    http://www.rte.ie/news/2012/1111/345146-live-childrens-referendum/
    Not picking them out.


    Highest voter turnout: Dublin North Central and Dun Laoghaire with 42%.
    Lowest voter turnout: Donegal North East with 24%.


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 710 ✭✭✭Reformed Character


    Don't get too excited. He picked the anomaly rather than the trend. Very dishonest of him.

    Nothing dishonest about it at all, I picked the last vote that statistics were available for, that is the most recent opportunity people had to vote.
    Sad but not unexpected that having clearly lost the argument behind your sensationalist post you resort to petty name calling.


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