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kryogen · 25-05-2014 12:06AM

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Tell you what, if that's true, I owe you a coke

25-05-2014 12:07AM

Don't panic over lack of transfers at this early stage of the summer? Fine, I won't.

But if Utd sell Mata this summer it will be a fúcking disgrace and cast a serious 'W.T.F.??' light on the people running our club.

I sincerely, desperately hope that this is just another bullshít rumour.

redbaron_99 · 25-05-2014 12:09AM

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I'll be enemy one but mata or rooney are gonna have to go, if we buy into VG vision. Nani too.valencia. Carrick, too.

Vic Vinegar · 25-05-2014 12:09AM

What if Van Gaal doesn't see a place for him in the formation he wants to use?

Still think it's crapola anyway.

Schwiiing · 25-05-2014 12:10AM

redbaron_99 wrote: »

I'll be enemy one but mata or rooney are gonna have to go, if we buy into VG vision. Nani too.valencia. Carrick, too.

Who replaces all them?

How Soon Is Now · 25-05-2014 12:11AM

Dont care we shouldnt be selling a top level player like Mata we should adding them ffs.

The first team is lacking in world class players we the **** would we sell one? Makes no sense.

scudzilla · 25-05-2014 12:12AM

Schwiiing wrote: »

Who replaces all them?

No one, we'll be the richest club in the championship :pac:

redbaron_99 · 25-05-2014 12:12AM

Schwiiing wrote: »

Who replaces all them?

Think about it

kryogen · 25-05-2014 12:18AM

redbaron_99 wrote: »

I'll be enemy one but mata or rooney are gonna have to go, if we buy into VG vision. Nani too.valencia. Carrick, too.

Nope

Nani can be very much a LVG player, and Carrick will be a good squad player, Tony the tiger I would like to see the back of, doubt Rooney will be off this summer and I have no doubt Mata will be a Man United player for a long time yet

Schwiiing · 25-05-2014 12:18AM

redbaron_99 wrote: »

Think about it

You obviously have so enlighten me.

K4t · 25-05-2014 12:19AM

If Van Gaal wants to sell Mata then he should be allowed to sell him. We've entrusted this new manager to bring us back to the top after a year of complete and utter disarray. He is the man now, let him implement his system. Obviously it would be sad to see a world class player like Mata leave (I personally think he'll stay) but the decision is and should be Van Gaal's alone from now.

How Soon Is Now · 25-05-2014 12:23AM

K4t wrote: »

If Van Gaal wants to sell Mata then he should be allowed to sell him. We've entrusted this new manager to bring us back to the top after a year of complete and utter disarray. He is the man now, let him implement his system. Obviously it would be sad to see a world class player like Mata leave (I personally think he'll stay) but the decision is and should be Van Gaal's alone from now.

What would be the sense in selling him though ?

Mikeyt086 · 25-05-2014 12:28AM

The Express also said we had a £20m bid accepted for Toni Kroos.

redbaron_99 · 25-05-2014 12:36AM

Mikeyt086 wrote: »

The Express also said we had a £20m bid accepted for Toni Kroos.

Three months ago I was told by a person who I have fate in. I believe in him so much that I went out on a Lomb and said it herre. 3 deals done.
Kroos and shaw were part of it. Thing is, new man in charge and all targets will change. Don't be surprised if shaw is ruled out.
The man has a plan. I don't have the footy know how to guess his moves.
I was killed for my faith in moyes. Oh well. I will back the new man no matter what.

upstairs for coffee · 25-05-2014 12:42AM

redbaron_99 wrote: »

Three months ago I was told by a person who I have fate in. I believe in him so much that I went out on a Lomb and said it herre. 3 deals done.
Kroos and shaw were part of it. Thing is, new man in charge and all targets will change. Don't be surprised if shaw is ruled out.
The man has a plan. I don't have the footy know how to guess his moves.
I was killed for my faith in moyes. Oh well. I will back the new man no matter what.

A deal is not done if a new manager can still say no. A deal is only done when the contract is signed and the player tells the official website what a dream it is to play for the team...

Mr Alan · 25-05-2014 12:43AM

Redbaron, didn't you having faith in Moyes prove to be horrendously misplaced?

Wouldn't it be fair to just say you'll never really say anything negative, and will just always back the manager & club regardless of what they do and whether or not it's justified?

redbaron_99 · 25-05-2014 12:50AM

Mr Alan wrote: »

Redbaron, didn't you having faith in Moyes prove to be horrendously misplaced?

Wouldn't it be fair to just say you'll never really say anything negative, and will just always back the manager & club regardless of what they do and whether or not it's justified?

Yes. Horribly I backed him until the end. I blame the players more than him. I back the new man. If it goes bad in the first few months I will fight for him. Kill me

Irish94 · 25-05-2014 12:52AM

zerks wrote: »

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Mikeyt086 wrote: »

The Express also said we had a £20m bid accepted for Toni Kroos.

Why is it that if a paper like the Daily express says;

a) Kroos deal done - 'Ah nevermind that, its only the express, it can't be true'

b) Mata done deal to Barca - 'Ah fúck this, United are terrible, we are the worst club in the world for transfers etc.'

It baffles me, why people here refuse to believe positive news but are willing to accept the negative news with open arms (As Mikey pointed out to a certain extent).

Not blaming you Zerks or anything, just merely using your post as an example.

Mata will not be sold.

redbaron_99 · 25-05-2014 12:53AM

redbaron_99 wrote: »

Yes. Horribly I backed him until the end. I blame the players more than him. I back the new man. If it goes bad in the first few months I will fight for him. Kill me

And I will never apologise for standing by moyes. I will not apologise standing by van gaal

How Soon Is Now · 25-05-2014 12:54AM

Irish94 wrote: »

Why is it that if a paper like the Daily express says;

a) Kroos deal done - 'Ah nevermind that, its only the express, it can't be true'

b) Mata done deal to Barca - 'Ah fúck this, United are terrible, we are the worst club in the world for transfers etc.'

It baffles me, why people here refuse to believe positive news but are willing to accept the negative news with open arms (As Mikey pointed out to a certain extent).

Not blaming you Zerks or anything, just merely using your post as an example.

Mata will not be sold.

I think its got to the stage over the years when it comes to how the club has dealt with transfers were more likely to believe the bad stuff then the good stuff weather any of it is true or not.

thelad95 · 25-05-2014 12:58AM

As a rule of thumb this summer I'm not going to pay any notice to rumours unless mentioned by sky sports or BBC. Honestlty, some of the crap spouted at this time of the year. Mata won't be sold, possibly ever. If any of our attacking players are going it's Shinji and/or Chicharito.

Kylo Ren · 25-05-2014 02:15AM

If we sell Mata, my love of football will be extinguished. We live by the Mata, we die by the Mata!

He's the hero Manchester United deserves, but not the one it needs right now. So they'll hunt him. Because he can take it. Because he's not our hero. He's a silent guardian, a watchful protector. The dark Juan.

And that is not the booze talking. Okay, it may be the booze talking.

Whatsisname · 25-05-2014 06:53AM

Don't think its been mentioned here yet but Skybet have suspended betting on Shaw and said on twitter that a deal has been agreed in principal with a club but aren't saying who. I'll email United to organise a fist fight with Ed Woodward if its Chelsea.

Lord TSC · 25-05-2014 07:21AM

6 days Van Gaal has had since announced, and already a core group seems to have lost all faith in him, based on nothing more than bs stories and the fact his targets obviously aren't lining up with the ones the journalists set out.

I am shuddering to think what will happen the first game we lose...

goodolegill · 25-05-2014 08:33AM

Personally guys, i would rather we went for

This is my realistic list

Rodriguez (left back at Wolfsburg) 15 million

Not as good defensively as Shaw but 15 million less and much better going forward and thats what we need in the
Van Gaal system. His goals and assists have propelled him into one of the best attacking fullbacks in Germany.

Hummels (dream scenario) 30 million

A mix of ferdinand and Vidic - is liable to a mistake but top quality.

Big fear is that we will cheap out and buy Vertongan at Spurs to plays as either a CB or back up LB

Carvalho 30 million

This boy is special, aggressive, powerful, good passing - he can run at players as Anderson could do but unlike Anderson remember to run back and not leave us exposed. His pace and power are suited to the PL but if i had to take a punt on the long term, id pay the big bucks for Carvalho over Shaw.

Koke 25 million - 30 million

He has run out of steam slightly but last night was another example of what he, can do - a player who can play in cm. Who embraces the ball, wants the ball and has the ability and confidence to play in the tight spaces. Great set piece delivery and would thrive with the attacking options playing in front of him

105 million - give or take with a team

De Gea

Rafael Hummels Jones/Evans Rodriguez

Carvalho Koke

Mata

Rooney/Wellback Kagawa/ Januzaj

Van Persie

TheTownie · 25-05-2014 09:08AM

I said already LVG may cast aside a player we didnt expect so it wouldnt surprise me if he tells Mata, like Riquelme, you're not in my plans.

We have too many no10s and people are desperately hoping he'll convert one of them to a different position. Maybe he has no intention of doing that.

Utd should be buying before they sell any high profile players anyway.

keeponhurling · 25-05-2014 09:15AM

It would be quite a statement if LVG wanted both Mata and Fellaini out, completely de-Moyesifying the club.

adox · 25-05-2014 09:16AM

I dont there will be any big name players leaving in the summer that we didn't already expect. There's just too many changes as it is, with players already leaving/retiring and of course the midfield.

That's not to say the likes of Mata/Rooney etc won't be moved on in the future, be it January or next summer but I just can't see Van Gaal shipping one of them out straight away when there is big work to be done on the squad as it is.

keeponhurling · 25-05-2014 09:18AM

I just saw Nigel de Jong doing an interview on TV.

Got me thinking that he would instantly improve the United team, has a good relationship with Van Gaal and wouldn't cost the earth to buy.

Anyone agree?

DM_7 · 25-05-2014 09:20AM

adox wrote: »

I dont there will be any big name players leaving in the summer that we didn't already expect. There's just too many changes as it is, with players already leaving/retiring and of course the midfield.

That's not to say the likes of Mata/Rooney etc won't be moved on in the future, be it January or next summer but I just can't see Van Gaal shipping one of them out straight away when there is big work to be done on the squad as it is.

Also he would probably want to work with them first to see what he can get from them

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