Are you a feminist?

Foxhound38 · 24-05-2014 03:30PM #1

I'd be interested in figuring out how many people in AH view themselves as feminists. It is no surprise to many that the term "feminism" is going through what some might call a bit of a brand problem. There are still many outstanding issues calling for increased gender equality but less and less young people (particularly young women) associate themselves with the feminist lable, with many preferring to call themselves humanists or equalists.

So what do ye reckon AH? Do you identify as a feminist?

bodice ripper · 24-05-2014 03:31PM

FOR THE PATRIARCHY!

Wacker The Attacker · 24-05-2014 03:32PM

I love tits

Wishiwasa Littlebitaller · 24-05-2014 03:33PM

I don't think even Emily Davison would want to be associated with the feminists of today.

Links234 · 24-05-2014 03:35PM

I would consider myself a feminist, but with the disclaimer that there are many different schools of thought on what is feminism and what it entails.

Duckworth_Luas · 24-05-2014 03:36PM

10 bob on Anmer for the Derby!

AudreyHepburn · 24-05-2014 03:39PM

I would be more for equal rights than women's rights tbh.

Women have certainly been treated badly in the past and I have no issue with us standing up for rights at all.

But I find the whole mentality that men are evil and only out to hurt and mistreat and demean women etc that pervades society today very unpalatable.

shruikan2553 · 24-05-2014 03:42PM

Nope. I'm all for equality but would never consider my self a feminist as I look at both sides and see inequalities. Many feminist groups just exist to have something to complain about these days.

beano345 · 24-05-2014 03:48PM

I believe in equality in its sincerest form,not the Chinese menu approach a lot of feminists take to it though

MagicMarker · 24-05-2014 03:49PM

I'm an egalitarian.

24-05-2014 03:50PM

I am yeah

Wishiwasa Littlebitaller · 24-05-2014 03:51PM

Vast majority of so called "feminists" today are really just liberals.

Watch this video where a conservative gets treated like it has just been revealed that she eats babies:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MEYDUnwmG4U

catallus · 24-05-2014 03:53PM

"To emancipate woman is to refuse to confine her to the relations she bears to man, not to deny them to her; let her have her independent existence and she will continue nonetheless to exist for him also: mutually recognising each other as subject, each will yet remain for the other an other. The reciprocity of their relations will not do away with the miracles – desire, possession, love, dream, adventure – worked by the division of human beings into two separate categories; and the words that move us – giving, conquering, uniting – will not lose their meaning. On the contrary, when we abolish the slavery of half of humanity, together with the whole system of hypocrisy that it implies, then the 'division' of humanity will reveal its genuine significance and the human couple will find its true form." Simon de Beauvoir

Real feminism deals with the messy realm of human relationships; the new waves have, understandably enough, shed a lot of the fundamentals but in doing so it has become inhuman, so it acts not as a restorative balm but as a potion of contempt.

kowloon · 24-05-2014 04:03PM

Rather than post a new thread, could we add the question: 'What do you think Feminism is?'
It makes no sense to say you are or aren't something when your definition of it isn't made clear.

alroley · 24-05-2014 04:08PM

AudreyHepburn wrote: »

I would be more for equal rights than women's rights tbh.

Women have certainly been treated badly in the past and I have no issue with us standing up for rights at all.

But I find the whole mentality that men are evil and only out to hurt and mistreat and demean women etc that pervades society today very unpalatable.

Feminism is wanting equal rights.

Wishiwasa Littlebitaller · 24-05-2014 04:12PM

alroley wrote: »

Feminism is wanting equal rights.

:pac:

Exhibit A:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9HwfVPmFNlg

MagicMarker · 24-05-2014 04:12PM

alroley wrote: »

Feminism is wanting equal rights.

......for women.

Pawn · 24-05-2014 04:12PM

alroley wrote: »

Feminism is wanting equal rights.

Sure...

Muise... · 24-05-2014 04:12PM

I'm a feminist and so is my wife!

24-05-2014 04:24PM

Why? why? why?

We all know how this is going to end up, with petty digs and even pettier rhetoric.

Too late, it's started already.

tritium · 24-05-2014 04:26PM

alroley wrote: »

Feminism is wanting equal rights.

You'll find a lot of folks who disagree on that definition of applied feminism, me included (I'm sure one particular poster will be here with their dictionary definition shortly)

24-05-2014 04:29PM

Candie wrote: »

Why? why? why?

We all know how this is going to end up, with petty digs and even pettier rhetoric.

Too late, it's started already.

I MET A WOMAN ONCE AND SHE WAS MEAN TO ME AND IT'S YOUR FAULT WHY DON'T YOU FIX THEM

Muise... · 24-05-2014 04:29PM

Candie wrote: »

Why? why? why?

We all know how this is going to end up, with petty digs and even pettier rhetoric.

Too late, it's started already.

At least it's out in the open here - it's not tacked on to an anecdotal or hypothetical issue. It's clear some people think feminism is aggressive and absurd and anti-men (and they have YouTube clips to prove it! YouTube!) and some others regard it as a broader church with lots of rational people in it. I'm glad to see my new sisters nail their colours to the mast.

seamus · 24-05-2014 04:30PM

By definition feminism is only concerned with equal rights for women and not concerned with equal rights for men.

Whatever the next level up is which is concerned with equal rights for everyone, that's what I am. Feminism is a subset of that obviously, but being specifically feminist says that you are not concerned with equalisation of men's rights.

tritium · 24-05-2014 04:34PM

bluewolf wrote: »

I MET A WOMAN ONCE AND SHE WAS MEAN TO ME AND IT'S YOUR FAULT WHY DON'T YOU FIX THEM

ITS BECAUSE ALL MEN ARE RAPISTS AND PAEDOPHILES AND THE WOMYN ARE POOR VICTIMS AND MRAS ARE ALL EVIL AND WANT TO SUPPRESS AND MISANDRY IS A MADE UP WORD

Turtwig · 24-05-2014 04:36PM

Prefer the term egalitarian because of too many negative connotations associated with feminism. Certain groups seem to believe they have exclusive access to defining feminism. As a result, some folks who are feminists would rather not identify as feminism for fear of association with an extremist or barmy crowd.

So to clarify, yes I am feminist but I am also egalitarian and more associate with the latter than the former. It's not wholly correct, kind of like agnostic over atheism, but it's met with less negative perceptions by others. Others whom ultimately you want to get to understand feminist struggles not brazenly dismiss them.

hfallada · 24-05-2014 04:37PM

Most young men view women equally to men. The glass ceiling is in women's heads now. Take the law profession. Women's are outperforming men, the most respected barristers are women and female solicitors are doing well also.

Take girls written by Lena Dunham. It's shows 4 girls living in Brooklyn and Dont rely on men like previous TV shows like sex and the city.

Women put down the fact they are underperforming to men, because they are women. But rarely acknowledge they are underqualified or lack experience. Women complain about under representation in politics.But yet rarely run as independent.

desultory · 24-05-2014 04:41PM

Absolutely. Equal rights and treatment for men & women.
Of course that'll never happen but it's nice to dream.

24-05-2014 04:43PM

bluewolf wrote: »

I MET A WOMAN ONCE AND SHE WAS MEAN TO ME AND IT'S YOUR FAULT WHY DON'T YOU FIX THEM

We're too busy, plotting our next move in the great takeover with the rest of the feminist illuminati.

And because we're mean and only like money and muscles, and child benefit, and having men lift things, prefer erotica to porn (this is a new one), and reject those sexy 2 am advances out of hand, fool men into unprotected sex, steal their DNA so we can drag them through the courts and take their money. That's if we don't fool them into marrying us so we can withhold sex and make them miserable and not do the cleaning, while wearing tracksuits, fake tan, and gaining weight at the taxpayers expense. Because that's how we roll.

For fun.

Because we're worth it.

Muise... wrote: »

It's clear some people think feminism is aggressive and absurd and anti-men (and they have YouTube clips to prove it! YouTube!)

Once the YouTube videos are out, its game over basically. I mean, if some random guy mades a video, it's got to be true.

It's like a law, or something.

Aurum · 24-05-2014 04:43PM

Wishiwasa Littlebitaller wrote: »

:pac:

Exhibit A:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9HwfVPmFNlg

You can try to discredit any political movement or ideology by pointing to the actions of some extremist outliers and trying to claim that their actions and opinions are representative of the group as a whole.

Seaneh · 24-05-2014 04:46PM

In that I believe woman should have equal rights to men, yes I'm a feminist.

I think gender quotas in jobs and government are bloody retarded though.
If you want more women to be politicians or engineers or chefs or race car drivers then promote them as things women can strive to be, make girls interested in those industries, don't make it a situation where if 2 people apply for a job and one of them is a woman and one is a man, the man loses out solely because he's a man, even if he is more qualified to do the job.
The best person to preform the role is the people with the best training, experience and ability, not the person of the "correct" gender to meet a quota.

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