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Convicted child killer canvassing for sinn fein[Mod warning-First Post]

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  • #542
    RecordStraight
    Closed Accounts Posts: 3,292 ✭✭✭RecordStraight


    DubVelo wrote: »
    Suspected it'd be South alright. I've no ****ing clue who to vote for down here either. :(
    Deirdre ****ing Clune. The Wheelchair Guy. A bunch of anti-everything Independents. Hobson's choice.


  • #543
    Bannasidhe
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 19,204 ✭✭✭✭Bannasidhe


    RecordStraight wrote: »
    You are still not answering my question. That's pretty poor form from the person claiming the high moral ground.

    I have read every single post in this thread.


  • #544
    RecordStraight
    Closed Accounts Posts: 3,292 ✭✭✭RecordStraight


    Bannasidhe wrote: »
    I have read every single post in this thread.
    And you have not answered my question.


  • #545
    Tramps Like Us
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,062 ✭✭✭Tramps Like Us


    Bannasidhe wrote: »
    I have read every single post in this thread.
    you poor thing, I gave up after the first page


  • #546
    RecordStraight
    Closed Accounts Posts: 3,292 ✭✭✭RecordStraight


    Tramps Like Us wrote: »
    you poor thing, I gave up after the first page
    ...and the last.


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  • #547
    RecordStraight
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    LordSutch wrote: »
    Getting back to the knub of the question Re " Convicted child killer canvassing for sinn fein" . . . .

    Should McMahon be allowed to canvass for SF, and should the public be aware that a political party in theis state supports a child murderer in its ranks?
    Well of course he should be allowed. And of course the public should be aware, in my view.


  • #548
    Unknown Soldier
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,122 ✭✭✭Unknown Soldier


    Bannasidhe wrote: »
    I have read every single post in this thread.


    Did I really see Larry Murphy being brought into this high brow discussion? Or did mine eyes deceive me...:confused:


  • #549
    Tramps Like Us
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,062 ✭✭✭Tramps Like Us


    LordSutch wrote: »
    Getting back to the knub of the question Re " Convicted child killer canvassing for sinn fein" . . . .

    Should McMahon be allowed to canvass for SF, and should the public be aware that a political party in theis state supports a child murderer in its ranks?
    of course he should, its not as if the involvement of former IRA men in SF is a secret


  • #550
    kingchess
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 795 ✭✭✭kingchess


    RecordStraight wrote: »
    Well of course he should be allowed. And of course the public should be aware, in my view.

    ahh-shinnerbot


  • #551
    DubVelo
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 543 ✭✭✭DubVelo


    RecordStraight wrote: »
    But wouldn't SF implement their agenda if they get into government?

    What I meant is that FG are exploiting the backdrop of the economic situation to do what they were going to do anyway and shifting the blame to the troika or whoever.

    Never said I was voting SF by the way.


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  • #552
    RecordStraight
    Closed Accounts Posts: 3,292 ✭✭✭RecordStraight


    DubVelo wrote: »
    What I meant is that FG are exploiting the backdrop of the economic situation to do what they were going to do anyway and shifting the blame to the troika or whoever.
    Well they have been tied pretty closely to what FFailure agreed with the Troika* - FFailure have a point when they say that the recovery plan is based on what they would have done in government. Doesn't stop them attacking FG/LAB for every cut or tax rise they implement, of course.

    *Water charges, property tax are Troika committments


  • #553
    Flex
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,191 ✭✭✭Flex


    I cant say Im surprised by the fact they have a child murderer canvassing for them (they are Sinn Fein after all), Im very surprised by the defence of it and the apologism through the thread for it though.

    Beyond that, I can see the appeal of Sinn Fein, "Oh wow, no tax increases! No spending cuts! No debts! No unemployment! Welfare benefits for everyone! Holy moly, why havent I voted for these guys sooner!!!", but when you start to query their policies and wonder if they have such a wonderful and ultra-popular solution to all of our economic and societal woes why hasnt anyone else done it... I honestly cant believe people fall for it. And less than a decade after FF ruined the economy by using similarly motivated reckless policies.


  • #554
    LordSutch
    Closed Accounts Posts: 12,069 ✭✭✭✭LordSutch


    Getting back to the nub of the question Re " Convicted child killer canvassing for sinn fein" . . . .

    Should McMahon be allowed to canvass for SF, and should the public be aware that a political party in theis state supports a child murderer in its ranks?


  • #555
    bumper234
    Closed Accounts Posts: 10,250 ✭✭✭✭bumper234


    LordSutch wrote: »
    Getting back to the nub of the question Re " Convicted child killer canvassing for sinn fein" . . . .

    Should McMahon be allowed to canvass for SF, and should the public be aware that a political party in theis state supports a child murderer in its ranks?

    I don't think it's as much as him being "allowed" as is it morally right? Either way i think SF have shot themselves (pun intended) in the foot with this one.


  • #556
    Nodin
    Closed Accounts Posts: 46,938 ✭✭✭✭Nodin


    LordSutch wrote: »
    Getting back to the nub of the question Re " Convicted child killer canvassing for sinn fein" . . . .

    Should McMahon be allowed to canvass for SF, and should the public be aware that a political party in theis state supports a child murderer in its ranks?


    He served his time, people already know.


  • #557
    RecordStraight
    Closed Accounts Posts: 3,292 ✭✭✭RecordStraight


    bumper234 wrote: »
    I don't think it's as much as him being "allowed" as is it morally right?
    I wouldn't say it's morally wrong per se. It just reminds (some people) of some of the worst aspects of Sinn Fein.


  • #558
    DubVelo
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 543 ✭✭✭DubVelo


    LordSutch wrote: »
    Getting back to the nub of the question Re " Convicted child killer canvassing for sinn fein" . . . .

    Should McMahon be allowed to canvass for SF, and should the public be aware that a political party in theis state supports a child murderer in its ranks?

    Yes and yes. Obviously.... Democracy, innit?


  • #559
    Banjo String
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    LordSutch wrote: »
    Getting back to the nub of the question Re " Convicted child killer canvassing for sinn fein" . . . .

    Should McMahon be allowed to canvass for SF, and should the public be aware that a political party in theis state supports a child murderer in its ranks?

    Didn't we encourage men on either side of the conflict to pursue their political aims through peaceful means only?

    So the answer to your question is yes he should be allowed (the British and Irish encourage it actually)


  • #560
    RecordStraight
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    Nodin wrote: »
    He served his time, people already know.
    Fair enough, but would the same argument apply to - say - Ray Burke, if he was canvassing? Or standing?


  • #561
    Bannasidhe
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    Unknown Soldier wrote: »
    Did I really see Larry Murphy being brought into this high brow discussion? Or did mine eyes deceive me...:confused:

    Don't even go there :(


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  • #562
    Nodin
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    RecordStraight wrote: »
    Fair enough, but would the same argument apply to - say - Ray Burke, if he was canvassing? Or standing?


    This man was a volunteer in an armed struggle for a cause. Ray Burkes cause was Ray Burke.


  • #563
    RecordStraight
    Closed Accounts Posts: 3,292 ✭✭✭RecordStraight


    Bannasidhe wrote: »
    Don't even go there :(
    Still posting on the thread, still ignoring the question I asked you. :(


  • #564
    RecordStraight
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    Nodin wrote: »
    This man was a volunteer in an armed struggle for a cause. Ray Burkes cause was Ray Burke.
    Yeah, but he did something wrong, he served his time, and now doesn't he deserve a second chance?

    (I wouldn't be voting for him, mind you)


  • #565
    Bannasidhe
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 19,204 ✭✭✭✭Bannasidhe


    RecordStraight wrote: »
    Still posting on the thread, still ignoring the question I asked you. :(

    I'm going to continue to ignore you too as I am fairly certain you will continue to 'shinnerbot'.


  • #566
    R P McMurphy
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    dark crystal wrote: »
    What exactly is a Shinnerbot?

    I see that sheep like word trotted out continuously by posters who seem to use it as a stick to beat any poster who doesn't agree with the demonisation of Sinn Fein.

    Is there a similar childish moniker for people who support other parties?

    I have seen frazerbot used


  • #567
    kingchess
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 795 ✭✭✭kingchess


    RecordStraight wrote: »
    Fair enough, but would the same argument apply to - say - Ray Burke, if he was canvassing? Or standing?
    yes-that is democracy(-the worst form of government except for all the others):D


  • #568
    Tin Foil Hat
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,678 ✭✭✭Tin Foil Hat


    It's only a few short years since a Sitting Sinn Fein TD drove to Castlerea Prison to collect two men convicted of killing an Irish Policeman while in the process of robbing the Irish post office and throwing them a party. Sinn Fein are still scum.


  • #569
    RecordStraight
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    Bannasidhe wrote: »
    I'm going to continue to ignore you too as I am fairly certain you will continue to 'shinnerbot'.
    Unbelievable. From the high moral ground to this sh!t.


  • #570
    Nodin
    Closed Accounts Posts: 46,938 ✭✭✭✭Nodin


    RecordStraight wrote: »
    Yeah, but he did something wrong, he served his time, and now doesn't he deserve a second chance?

    (I wouldn't be voting for him, mind you)

    I don't think he did anything wrong, deliberately at least. He played a part in the armed struggle as did many.


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  • #571
    RecordStraight
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    R P McMurphy wrote: »
    I have seen frazerbot used
    Surely only for the man himself? Does he have acolytes too?


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