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Middle-Earth: Shadow of Mordor

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  • 28-12-2013 6:52pm
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    Registered Users Posts: 7,116 ✭✭✭Professional Griefer


    The next Lord of the Rings game is called Middle-Earth: Shadow of Mordor, and it's an open-world action game set between The Hobbit and Lord of the Rings.
    Yep, this is an original, brand new prequel that doesn't seem to be based on any of JRR Tolkien's works. Shadow of Mordor, developed by the folks at Monolith (Guardians of Middle-Earth), will be out for PC, Xbox 360, Xbox One, PS3, and PS4. Warner Bros. announced the game in a Game Informer cover reveal today, and the January edition of the magazine will have more details about the game.
    Via press release, here's WB describing the game:
    Warner Bros. Interactive Entertainment today announced Middle-earth: Shadow of Mordor, a next-gen, third-person action game set in the legendary Tolkien universe of Middle-earth. In Middle-earth: Shadow of Mordor, players explore an original story of vengeance and redemption as they take control of Talion, a ranger whose family is murdered at the hands of Sauron and his army the night they return to Mordor.
    Developed for next-gen consoles, Middle-earth: Shadow of Mordor introduces the Nemesis System, a powerful and dynamic gameplay mechanic that allows players' actions to shape enemy relationships and characteristics to create personal and unique story and gameplay arcs that are persistent even after death. Players experience a unique game every time as the dynamic world reacts and adapts to their choices.
    Huh. This is certainly unexpected. I wonder how JRR Tolkien would feel about this one?

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    Really looking forward to seeing this, if done right it'll be awesome.


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  • Registered Users Posts: 19,976 ✭✭✭✭humanji


    I've always wanted an open world lotr's game like they used to make. I can't help but expect it to be a cheap cash in while the new movies are out.


  • Registered Users Posts: 3,579 ✭✭✭BopNiblets


    I bet Tolkien and his son wouldn't like it but to be honest they're different generation so in the nicest possible way, feck 'em, I think we can stop worrying about what they would think at this point! :)
    It sounds cool if it's a good SP experience, I'm interested.


  • Registered Users Posts: 4,267 ✭✭✭Potatoeman


    humanji wrote: »
    I've always wanted an open world lotr's game like they used to make. I can't help but expect it to be a cheap cash in while the new movies are out.

    It usually depends on the development time. If it was made quick I'd give it a miss.


  • Registered Users Posts: 19,976 ✭✭✭✭humanji


    Footage of this has been released and Gamespot has an article on it. And I have to say I'm getting a bit tingly about this. Essentially it's like a total conversion of Assassin's Creed, set in Middle Earth. It's probably going to be fairly light on trying to stick to the book's lore, but that's not necessarily a bad thing. The article is here along with the footage (I can't embed it here):

    http://www.gamespot.com/articles/hunting-and-hierarchy-in-middle-earth-shadow-of-mordor/1100-6417227/

    And the thing is, that's pre-alpha footage and it looks great. Obviously, it'll be edited for viewing, but still. I'm loving the idea of a non-scripted nemesis who's life you effect in small ways. This could turn out to be a hell of a game.


  • Moderators, Social & Fun Moderators Posts: 28,633 Mod ✭✭✭✭Shiminay


    shutupandtakemymoney_zps3bbbd52e.jpeg

    That looks like a lot of fun and since I already love the Assassins Creed series (and the comparison's are totally justified), I'm looking forward to seeing a radically different sort of environment to play in.


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  • Registered Users Posts: 4,433 ✭✭✭Josey Wales


    As a huge Assassin's Creed fan this game looks amazing. I really hope the final product is as good as this footage makes it appear.


  • Registered Users Posts: 2,589 ✭✭✭irish_stevo815


    Within the first 30 seconds of watching, I thought its Assassins Creed with a LOTR skin which got me excited. It looks a like it could be an amazing game. The whole nemesis thing sounds class


  • Registered Users Posts: 2,790 ✭✭✭2Mad2BeMad


    wow can't wait for this
    hope its released this year as I really am looking forward to a decent LOTR's game :/


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 9,770 ✭✭✭danthefan


    Looks very interesting. The combat is going to have to be better than an AC game for me to buy it though tbh. Lots of very good ideas but will have to see how well they get implemented.


  • Registered Users Posts: 3,783 ✭✭✭heebusjeebus


    Gameplay mechanics look interesting but maybe being in Middle Earth will constrain it a bit. It would be better if it was an original property.


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  • Moderators, Computer Games Moderators Posts: 14,698 Mod ✭✭✭✭Dcully


    The combat looks simplistic to me, its like AC as in you fight a guy and the others just stand watching until you kill one guy then the next joins in rinse and repeat, its what has made the AC series less interesting to me.
    Compare it to the combat in The Witcher 2 and you will see what i mean.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,467 ✭✭✭McSasquatch


    Gameplay mechanics look interesting but maybe being in Middle Earth will constrain it a bit. It would be better if it was an original property.

    Agreed - going so heavily against canon (wraith powers?) could work against it, but I'm still looking forward to it. AssCreed comparisons are well deserved, and it has a smack of Arkham off it too, which isn't a bad thing at all.


  • Registered Users Posts: 7,160 ✭✭✭tok9


    Dcully wrote: »
    The combat looks simplistic to me, its like AC as in you fight a guy and the others just stand watching until you kill one guy then the next joins in rinse and repeat, its what has made the AC series less interesting to me.
    Compare it to the combat in The Witcher 2 and you will see what i mean.

    I actually thought the one good thing they didn't take from AC was the combat.. looks a lot more like Batman imo which would be great.


  • Registered Users Posts: 17,371 ✭✭✭✭Zillah


    Excited:
    - Great look.
    - Proper LOTR voices.
    - Nemesis system/hunting/tracking looks cool.

    Wary:
    - AC combat is boring as hell and this looks to be basically identical.
    - Wraith thing seems very over the top and not very Lord of the Ringsy.
    - RADIANT MISSIONS DANGER WILL ROBINSON DANGER

    I'll bet money that the auto-generating missions become stale and obvious within an hour of gameplay.


  • Registered Users Posts: 14,128 ✭✭✭✭aaronjumper


    Zillah wrote: »
    Excited:
    - Great look.
    - Proper LOTR voices.
    - Nemesis system/hunting/tracking looks cool.

    Wary:
    - AC combat is boring as hell and this looks to be basically identical.
    - Wraith thing seems very over the top and not very Lord of the Ringsy.
    - RADIANT MISSIONS DANGER WILL ROBINSON DANGER

    I'll bet money that the auto-generating missions become stale and obvious within an hour of gameplay.

    I hate LOTR but am looking forward to this. The AC combat could be improved but I find if you mix it up yourself instead of waiting to counter, it can be fun.

    If they can implement the Radiant missions to the point where they are suitably different, rather than just a different location and character each time, could be a fun way to spend your time.

    Most people will probably just use it as a faster way to level and stop once they are strong enough in their own right. What I did in Skyrim anyway.


  • Moderators, Social & Fun Moderators Posts: 28,633 Mod ✭✭✭✭Shiminay


    If they took their combat queues from the Arkham series, that'd be more enjoyable. Enemies standing there waiting to attack is just sorta lame and whilst that's not completely eliminated in the Arkham games, they do gang up.

    If you make it *really* difficult, then you force people into using the "take over enemies minds" mechanics so that it's 10 v 10 rather than 1 v 19 in combat.


  • Registered Users Posts: 5,303 ✭✭✭Temptamperu


    Looks great, I dont mind assassins creed combat.


  • Registered Users Posts: 1,792 ✭✭✭Gandalph


    They better add in a god damn good reason why a wraith is helping out this bloke, last I checked they were not very friendly with the locals of Middle-Earth.


  • Registered Users Posts: 7,116 ✭✭✭Professional Griefer




    Its out 7th of October on 360, PS3, XB1, PS4 and PC.


  • Registered Users Posts: 1,792 ✭✭✭Gandalph


    The trailer is not really doing it for me :(


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  • Registered Users Posts: 19,976 ✭✭✭✭humanji


    Yeah, it doesn't exactly sell it very well.


  • Registered Users Posts: 27,645 ✭✭✭✭nesf


    That looks, gah. Sorry, just no. That style of combat in that world? This isn't some bloody western comic book they're doing a prequel to (and I'm saying this as someone who isn't much of a fan of Tolkien). I'm just getting completely the wrong vibe off of that, if you took away the title I'd never place it as a LOTR game.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 537 ✭✭✭Yeti Beast


    New video showing the weapons rune upgrade system;



    Still not sold on this really. If it was an original IP, it'd look like a fun OTT slasher. But it just doesn't feel like a LotR game to me at all. Too much pandering to the American teenage boy demographic.


  • Registered Users Posts: 13,084 ✭✭✭✭Kirby


    I'm going against the grain here It seems. I think it looks quite good. If they can take the good from assassins creed and leave the bad....in a middle earth setting....whats not to like?

    I also the think the voice acting is a notch above what we usually see in games which is nice. No Jill sandwiches to be had here.

    I am a little annoyed they are derping it for 360 and ps3 though.


  • Registered Users Posts: 27,645 ✭✭✭✭nesf


    Looks more like a Viking game tbh.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 537 ✭✭✭Yeti Beast


    Kirby wrote: »
    I'm going against the grain here It seems. I think it looks quite good. If they can take the good from assassins creed and leave the bad....in a middle earth setting....whats not to like?

    Don't get me wrong - I don't think it looks bad per sé.

    But there's something about it that I can't quite put my finger on... Anti-heroes with dark powers and badass weapon upgrades don't feel very Middle Earth to me. Maybe it's that the clear good vs evil values of LotR are missing, all in the name of "cool".


  • Registered Users Posts: 19,976 ✭✭✭✭humanji


    Kirby wrote: »
    I'm going against the grain here It seems. I think it looks quite good. If they can take the good from assassins creed and leave the bad....in a middle earth setting....whats not to like?

    I also the think the voice acting is a notch above what we usually see in games which is nice. No Jill sandwiches to be had here.

    I am a little annoyed they are derping it for 360 and ps3 though.
    I think the biggest problem is it being a LOTR license. As Dair. says, if it were it's own IP, then it'd be a lot easier to accept and you wouldn't have that niggling thought in the back of your mind that keeps telling you it doesn't feel very Tolkien.

    But I love the idea of telling bosses you're out to get them and the whole nemesis system sounds cool too.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 537 ✭✭✭Yeti Beast


    humanji wrote: »
    I think the biggest problem is it being a LOTR license. As Dair. says, if it were it's own IP, then it'd be a lot easier to accept and you wouldn't have that niggling thought in the back of your mind that keeps telling you it doesn't feel very Tolkien.

    But I love the idea of telling bosses you're out to get them and the whole nemesis system sounds cool too.

    Yeah, if they succeed with the gameplay, I'll still buy and enjoy I'm sure.


  • Registered Users Posts: 2,790 ✭✭✭2Mad2BeMad


    looks deadly to me :)


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  • Registered Users Posts: 2,315 ✭✭✭Big Knox


    While I'm not a huge fan of that style of combat saying it doesn't belong in a Middle Earth setting is being pedantic. As is the anti-hero criticism! I do think more weighty combat like Dark Souls would probably suit the game better but definitely don't write it off yet.


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