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Manchester United Superthread 2014 mod warning #8081

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  • #4952
    duffman13
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 9,274 ✭✭✭duffman13


    Peanut Butter Jelly wrote: »
    Can someone explain the 1/1 odds...:confused:

    Put one euro on, you win one euro plus your stake back. Therefore you make a profit of €1


  • #4953
    GSPfan
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,843 ✭✭✭GSPfan


    lordgoat wrote: »
    I think Fellaini will be shown the door. Just my opinion but I think he was a poor buy and this season his level was truly shown.

    I would be shocked if he didn't get one season under Van Gaal and then see what happens. Even as a squad option.

    I see a 4 3 3 formation with current players.

    Fellaini behind Kagawa and Mata in the centre of the park with Rooney and Adnan further forward wide of RvP.

    If we sign 2 world class CM's I see Fellaini and Kagawa replaced in that line up. Pure speculation based on the few Dutch line ups i've seen with Van Der Vaart and Strootman in CM in front of a Holding midfielder.

    Really have no idea what way he will play which is exciting.


  • #4954
    Burt Macklin
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 433 ✭✭Burt Macklin


    The way he utilised Van der Vaart and Sneijder in the Dutch national team gives me hope that he might be able to achieve some sort of balanced side that incorporates Mata, Kagawa, Rooney and van Persie. Maybe with some rotation but I think it might work.


  • #4955
    Antibac
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,101 ✭✭✭Antibac


    Today we are being linked with another Dutch player Memphis Depay. Anyone seen him play? I've only seen bits and pieces. Looks a tricky player.


  • #4956
    kryogen
    Closed Accounts Posts: 25,953 ✭✭✭✭kryogen


    lordgoat wrote: »
    I think Fellaini will be shown the door. Just my opinion but I think he was a poor buy and this season his level was truly shown.

    I'm not writing him off so quick, he is a good player. None of the team exactly excelled last season and he is certainly worth a squad place imo, interested to see what happens there.


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  • #4957
    kryogen
    Closed Accounts Posts: 25,953 ✭✭✭✭kryogen


    GSPfan wrote: »
    I would be shocked if he didn't get one season under Van Gaal and then see what happens. Even as a squad option.

    I see a 4 3 3 formation with current players.

    Fellaini behind Kagawa and Mata in the centre of the park with Rooney and Adnan further forward wide of RvP.

    If we sign 2 world class CM's I see Fellaini and Kagawa replaced in that line up. Pure speculation based on the few Dutch line ups i've seen with Van Der Vaart and Strootman in CM in front of a Holding midfielder.

    Really have no idea what way he will play which is exciting.

    No way he plays both Mata and Kagawa in centre mid together with a DM, one will be further forward or not in the team. Big difference in them and Strootman types


  • #4958
    ShaneU
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 15,082 ✭✭✭✭ShaneU


    6 years ago today!

    MU_champions_league_2008.jpg


  • #4959
    Ordinary man
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,492 ✭✭✭Ordinary man


    Wasn't it van gaal who turned schweinsteiger from a wide man to a central midfielder? Would he try to change rooney also? Rooney has played there in patches over the last few seasons but was never fully converted and trained to focus on the position


  • #4960
    Lord TSC
    Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 42,996 Mod ✭✭✭✭Lord TSC


    Transfer news, mostly stolen from Reddit

    Miguel Delaney is saying we're confident of getting Kroos before the World Cup and that we're after 6 top players. Mark Ogden said we were confident on Kroos last week. Feels as if this one is building to a head in a really positive way.

    M.E.N. and Jamie Jackson are reporting that the Shaw deal is 95% done, and should be concluded pre-WC as well.

    The Mirror report we want to steal Yevhen Konoplyanka from Liverpool. £12m is the price being touted for the winger.

    Guillem Balague is reporting that Cesc has a buyout clause of €40m and he thinks that we "are probably favourites." Though Balague is incredibly unreliable, he's simply reporting what is "common knowledge" within the Spanish press. Also of note is that Cesc is absent from the ads for next season's jersey; same as last year when the Thiago rumours started up.

    German paper Bild are reporting that Van Gaal has to money to buy any Bayern-player he wants.

    Mexican media reporting center back Hector Moreno could go to Man Utd. He has already played for Van Gaal for two seasons in AZ.

    The Express have us eyeing up De Vrij.

    LvG was asked about Strootman joining United. He responded: "I gave my wishlist to the club," Van Gaal explained. "Is Kevin Strootman on it? A question for you, a fact for me."


  • #4961
    Lucas Hood
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,206 ✭✭✭Lucas Hood


    Ordinary man wrote: »
    Wasn't it van gaal who turned schweinsteiger from a wide man to a central midfielder? Would he try to change rooney also? Rooney has played there in patches over the last few seasons but was never fully converted and trained to focus on the position

    He changed him from Winger to cm . Alaba from Cm to Lb , Badstuber from Lb to Cb , Bogarde from LW to Lb & Simon Poulsen from LW to LB. Probably more that I'm not aware of.


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  • #4962
    KH25
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,209 ✭✭✭KH25


    Teamshadowclan wrote: »
    Transfer news, mostly stolen from Reddit

    Miguel Delaney is saying we're confident of getting Kroos before the World Cup and that we're after 6 top players. Mark Ogden said we were confident on Kroos last week. Feels as if this one is building to a head in a really positive way.

    M.E.N. and Jamie Jackson are reporting that the Shaw deal is 95% done, and should be concluded pre-WC as well.

    The Mirror report we want to steal Yevhen Konoplyanka from Liverpool. £12m is the price being touted for the winger.

    Guillem Balague is reporting that Cesc has a buyout clause of €40m and he thinks that we "are probably favourites." Though Balague is incredibly unreliable, he's simply reporting what is "common knowledge" within the Spanish press. Also of note is that Cesc is absent from the ads for next season's jersey; same as last year when the Thiago rumours started up.

    German paper Bild are reporting that Van Gaal has to money to buy any Bayern-player he wants.

    Mexican media reporting center back Hector Moreno could go to Man Utd. He has already played for Van Gaal for two seasons in AZ.

    The Express have us eyeing up De Vrij.

    LvG was asked about Strootman joining United. He responded: "I gave my wishlist to the club," Van Gaal explained. "Is Kevin Strootman on it? A question for you, a fact for me."

    I absolutely love his attitude with the media. His press conferences are going to be wonderful.


  • #4963
    MagicIRL
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,902 ✭✭✭MagicIRL


    Despite being banned on Easter Sunday, I have, like Christ himself, returned (albeit slightly later than the man himself) and I'm claiming full responsability for ushering in the Iron Tulip's reign over Manchester United.

    With that, I give you the latest gossip via BBC (although not BBC itself)
    Meanwhile, United have agreed a deal to sign attacking midfielder Toni Kroos from Van Gaal's former club Bayern Munich, with an agreement in principle for the 24-year-old.

    Full story: Daily Express

    The new United manager could make PSV Eindhoven's Netherlands striker Memphis Depay, 20, one of his first signings.

    Full story: Sun (subscription required)


  • #4964
    Headshot
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 56,089 ✭✭✭✭Headshot


    We should buy Memphis, just for the song alone

    Walking in Memphis


  • #4965
    homerjay2005
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 29,346 ✭✭✭✭homerjay2005


    poor luis is in for a shock if he thinks he can adapt the likes of Jones, Carrick, Cleverly, Valencia, Young, Welbeck and Fellaini into a total football model :(

    http://www.manchestereveningnews.co.uk/sport/louis-van-gaal-total-football-7146779

    when you consider the amount of games the above group have gotten in the past 2 or 3 seasons, it shows just how poor our technical ability is within the squad.


  • #4966
    RickyOFlaherty
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 422 ✭✭RickyOFlaherty


    ShaneU wrote: »
    6 years ago today!

    MU_champions_league_2008.jpg

    Pique in the background ... makes you despair ... if we had only kept Pique and Pogba ...


  • #4967
    Cookiemunster
    Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 13,242 Mod ✭✭✭✭Cookiemunster


    RickyOFlaherty wrote: »
    Pique in the background ... makes you despair ... if we had only kept Pique and Pogba ...

    This again? Pique left 6 years ago. He was behind Rio and Vidic at their prime. He hadn't a hope of getting into the team and he left. It's not comparable to Pogba at all.


  • #4968
    Mitch Connor
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 48,941 ✭✭✭✭Mitch Connor


    homerjay2005 wrote: »
    poor luis is in for a shock if he thinks he can adapt the likes of Jones, Carrick, Cleverly, Valencia, Young, Welbeck and Fellaini into a total football model :(

    http://www.manchestereveningnews.co.uk/sport/louis-van-gaal-total-football-7146779

    when you consider the amount of games the above group have gotten in the past 2 or 3 seasons, it shows just how poor our technical ability is within the squad.

    Disagree with you. I don't think the passing or ability of Jones, Carrick, Cleverley or Welbeck is as bad as you make out.

    In particular, I would say the adaptability and willingness to do what they are asked to do (regardless of position) is very much in the favour of Cleverley, Jones and Welbeck.


  • #4969
    homerjay2005
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 29,346 ✭✭✭✭homerjay2005


    RickyOFlaherty wrote: »
    Pique in the background ... makes you despair ... if we had only kept Pique and Pogba ...

    in all fairness, Pique was un-keepable as he was too good to sit on the bench. Rio made the world team of the year in 2008, Vidic did it in 2009 and no young defender in the world was going to break up that partnership, he wasnt going to sit and accept it.

    its just unfortunate that he broke into the squad then, another year or two later and he'd have made it, though i do think he was always destined to go back to Spain, like Fabregas for instance...its just in their blood.

    same for Rossi, he had Ronaldo, Rooney, Tevez and an in form Saha (2007/2008) in front of him.

    Pogba however is a completely different story, it will rank as one of Fergies greatest ever mistakes. however, it does appear from what Fergie was saying, that Pogba was a problem child behind the scenes (or more to the point his agent) and this caused his downfall.

    in saying that, had we given Pogba the money he wanted, i think he would have stayed.


  • #4970
    homerjay2005
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 29,346 ✭✭✭✭homerjay2005


    Mitch Connor wrote: »
    Disagree with you. I don't think the passing or ability of Jones, Carrick, Cleverley or Welbeck is as bad as you make out.

    In particular, I would say the adaptability and willingness to do what they are asked to do (regardless of position) is very much in the favour of Cleverley, Jones and Welbeck.

    there is passing the ball, which every professional football can do, to a certain extent.

    then there is actual technical ability to be creative and make a difference in a tight game and thats something that all of the above seriously lack.


    you can count on one hand the amount of key passes that led to goals this season. Carrick is the best of them in terms of passing, but again he is not on a level of other first choice midfielders both in the league and europe.

    Phil Jones is probably the least skillful player that is regulary playing football at the top level of the league. he has his qualities (heart, determination, tackling), but his actual ball playing ability has not progressed one bit since he signed for us. take away his work effort and he is as limited as they come. ill put it this way, we spent £20million to replace John o Shea.


  • #4971
    kryogen
    Closed Accounts Posts: 25,953 ✭✭✭✭kryogen


    Why do you constantly refer to the Jones transfer fee as £20million?

    Welbeck should be nowhere near your list either, one of the most skillful players at the club


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  • #4972
    Mitch Connor
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 48,941 ✭✭✭✭Mitch Connor


    homerjay2005 wrote: »
    there is passing the ball, which every professional football can do, to a certain extent.

    then there is actual technical ability to be creative and make a difference in a tight game and thats something that all of the above seriously lack.


    you can count on one hand the amount of key passes that led to goals this season. Carrick is the best of them in terms of passing, but again he is not on a level of other first choice midfielders both in the league and europe.

    Phil Jones is probably the least skillful player that is regulary playing football at the top level of the league. he has his qualities (heart, determination, tackling), but his actual ball playing ability has not progressed one bit since he signed for us. take away his work effort and he is as limited as they come. ill put it this way, we spent £20million to replace John o Shea.
    In Van Gaals system, the creative burden is not on the central midfielders, it is on the wide players and the no.10. the central midfielders need to offer for the ball, move into space for it, and look to link short to the wide player or the number 10.


  • #4973
    glued
    Closed Accounts Posts: 2,446 ✭✭✭glued


    RickyOFlaherty wrote: »
    Pique in the background ... makes you despair ... if we had only kept Pique and Pogba ...

    Pque is an overrated centre half. He's far too slow and prone to clumsy decisions. If he didn't have Busquets in front of him he'd be badly exposed. I wouldn't be surprised to see Barcelona buy two centre backs this summer.

    Also I wouldn't be surprised to see Paul Pogba end up at Barcelona this Summer. The loss of Pogba rests solely at Ferguson's door. What an incredibly naive and stupid decision. The game where he played Rafael in midfield was an absolutely catastrophic decision and probably the straw that broke the Camels back for Pogba.


  • #4974
    bangkok
    Closed Accounts Posts: 17,638 ✭✭✭✭bangkok


    I think I will just say it again lads.... toni kroos and luke shaw signed before the world cup starts


  • #4975
    glued
    Closed Accounts Posts: 2,446 ✭✭✭glued


    bangkok wrote: »
    I think I will just say it again lads.... toni kroos and luke shaw signed before the world cup starts

    Chinese cookies cost a fortune


  • #4976
    RasTa
    Closed Accounts Posts: 15,111 ✭✭✭✭RasTa


    Kroos is this years Thiago, not happening.


  • #4977
    Mabel Flaky Toothache
    Posts: 27,583 ✭✭✭✭ Mabel Flaky Toothache


    glued wrote: »
    Chinese cookies cost a fortune

    ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^


  • #4978
    bangkok
    Closed Accounts Posts: 17,638 ✭✭✭✭bangkok


    id say off all the summer transfers for the last 20-30 years this summer has the potential to be the most exciting...... expect to seeat least 4 new arrivals of which 3 will be guaranteed quality.


  • #4979
    TheDoc
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 23,140 ✭✭✭✭TheDoc


    I'm rolling out the gazebo of positivity!

    JOIN ME!


  • #4980
    MagicIRL
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,902 ✭✭✭MagicIRL


    RasTa wrote: »
    Kroos is this years Thiago, not happening.

    Uncle Toni will play for United next season. #BELIEVE


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  • #4981
    MagicIRL
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,902 ✭✭✭MagicIRL


    TheDoc wrote: »
    I'm rolling out the gazebo of positivity!

    JOIN ME!

    Posativity bench is ready and waiting! :cool:

    MANU_04_149083b.jpg


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