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Does anyone agree with the TV License?

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  • #32
    Hotale.com
    Closed Accounts Posts: 2,374 ✭✭✭Hotale.com


    EyeSight wrote: »
    It's stupid and a huge example of how out of touch and ineffective the government are

    BTW why do we pay so much for our "presenters"? It's not like they're great(surely there's loads of non-RTE nepotists who could do just as well) and it's not like they can get a job anywhere else? Sure Newstalk and TV3 might buy a few, but the majority wouldn't get another job and would need to take a paycut - Just like most common people in the recession

    Who'd take Tubridy if RTÉ halved his wage and he resigned? And why would he be considered a loss anyway?


  • #33
    Yawns
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 4,254 ✭✭✭Yawns


    mikeym wrote: »
    While over here if you have 3 televisions that are hooked up to Dvd players or A playstation/xbox you have to get 3 Tv Licences by law.

    Wallet Inspector!

    Hand it over there please. It's the law.

    Wait you mean we can't just make **** up?


  • #34
    Bruthal
    Closed Accounts Posts: 13,370 ✭✭✭✭Bruthal


    mikeym wrote: »
    Over in the UK if your Tv isnt receiving a live feed you dont have to pay for a Tv Licence.

    While over here if you have 3 televisions that are hooked up to Dvd players or A playstation/xbox you have to get 3 Tv Licences by law.

    Its a licence per premises here.


  • #35
    kneemos
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 22,606 ✭✭✭✭kneemos


    Hotale.com wrote: »
    I don't see why they even bother calling it a TV license, RTE are paying ridiculous wages to people such as Tubs and Miriam O'Callaghan and get their own revenue from advertisement yet still everyone's expected to give them 160 euro a year.

    For it to make any sense RTÉ should sack or cut the wages of all their overpaid staff and should cease advertising either completely or just during programmes. It's a joke that we're expected to pay money under the pretence of it going to improve our TV quality when it's really just a way of the government to take some money off us. That ad with the TV License inspectors is especially infuriating; it just reminds me of the bullying nature of our government.

    I'm not usually even against extra taxes and all that (once they're within reason) as they have to get money from somewhere, but the TV license is an absolutely ridiculous concept in its current form.

    Wages in the place only account for a tiny percentage of their bills,single figure I think.
    The presenters are crap of the worst order though in fairness,seldom watch it except for sports or the odd special occasion,probably see more of TV3 than RTE which is not saying a lot for it.
    I do pay the license though and can see a lot of merit in having a national station with a public service directive.Sports coverage alone for example is worth the fee in comparison to what a Sky package would cost.


  • #36
    My name is URL
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 25,626 ✭✭✭✭My name is URL


    It makes me sick to the pit of my stomach knowing that I'm paying to keep cnuts like Miriam O'Callaghan and Joe Duffy in cushy, and grotesquely overpaid jobs.

    People that couldn't get a job in broadcasting if a state supported system didn't exist.


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  • #37
    Bruthal
    Closed Accounts Posts: 13,370 ✭✭✭✭Bruthal


    kneemos wrote: »
    .Sports coverage alone for example is worth the fee in comparison to what a Sky package would cost.

    Yea, but what if you don't want the rte package?


  • #38
    SafeSurfer
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,182 ✭✭✭SafeSurfer


    Bruthal wrote: »
    Its a licence per premises here.

    Yes. Which means the Shelbourne hotel pays less than someone with a mobile home in addition to their house.

    Multo autem ad rem magis pertinet quallis tibi vide aris quam allis



  • #39
    Backfire
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 541 ✭✭✭Backfire


    Bruthal wrote: »
    Yea, but what if you don't want the rte package?

    Rte dont show any live premiership games. We cant watch international friendlies.
    How is it better than sky exactly?.....

    The tv/broadcast license encompasses the house yes? As in if you had 10 tvs in the house, the 1 license covers them all?

    My parents pay for the license as they are honest people and don't want to break the law. I have a tv in my room but i have no license. But its not connected to an aerial anyway.


  • #40
    kneemos
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 22,606 ✭✭✭✭kneemos


    Bruthal wrote: »
    Yea, but what if you don't want the rte package?

    It's a public service(I know it's crap)that a lot of people do find useful.GAA is very popular as is the news coverage and other home produced programs.If you don't want it think of your granny sitting down to watch Fair City.


  • #41
    Nino Brown
    Closed Accounts Posts: 1,507 ✭✭✭Nino Brown


    kneemos wrote: »
    It's a public service(I know it's crap)that a lot of people do find useful.GAA is very popular as is the news coverage and other home produced programs.If you don't want it think of your granny sitting down to watch Fair City.

    People who find it useful should obviously have to pay for it. But I shouldn't have to pay for somebody to watch GAA. For E160 i could buy my granny plenty of box sets from decent channels, I bet she'd love the wire or the Sopranos


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  • #42
    SafeSurfer
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,182 ✭✭✭SafeSurfer


    My name is URL wrote: »
    It makes me sick to the pit of my stomach knowing that I'm paying to keep cnuts like Miriam O'Callaghan and Joe Duffy in cushy, and grotesquely overpaid jobs.

    People that couldn't get a job in broadcasting if a state supported system didn't exist.

    Miriam O'Callaghan is married to Steve Carson, editor of current affairs at RTE, formerly director of television at RTE. Miriam's ex husband is Tom Mc Gurk, sport and radio broadcaster with RTE.

    Richard Curran, presenter of Dragon's Den, recently appointed economics editor at RTE is brother of Noel Curran, current RTE director general.

    Ryan Tubridy, RTE enfant terrible is a first cousin of David Mc Savage of the savage eye and is the partner of Aoibhinn Ní Shúilleabháin

    Eileen Dunne is a daughter of Mick Dunne, former sports presenter

    Richard Boucher Hayes is a nephew of Myles Dungan

    Michelle Mc Caughron is a daughter of Tom Mc Caughron

    Lottie Ryan is the daughter of Gerry Ryan who was in turn the nephew of Eamon Andrews

    Duncan Stewart and his daughter Tania

    The list goes on

    Multo autem ad rem magis pertinet quallis tibi vide aris quam allis



  • #43
    Backfire
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 541 ✭✭✭Backfire


    Nino Brown wrote: »
    People who find it useful should obviously have to pay for it. But I shouldn't have to pay for somebody to watch GAA. For E160 i could buy my granny plenty of box sets from decent channels, I bet she'd love the wire or the Sopranos

    Exactly.

    Choice should be given to each person. If you dont want to lay for a tv license, remove all aerials from the house. Also have your static ip address blocked by rte from accessing their website. And agree to monthly inspections.

    Then pay no license.

    I would love to see this sort of system implemented. If you want rte, you pay €160. If you dont, dont pay.

    (Not sure what to do about the radio to ensure you cant pick up a radio station affliated with rte.)

    In an idealic world, thats the system i would have.


  • #44
    kneemos
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 22,606 ✭✭✭✭kneemos


    Nino Brown wrote: »
    People who find it useful should obviously have to pay for it. But I shouldn't have to pay for somebody to watch GAA. For E160 i could buy my granny plenty of box sets from decent channels, I bet she'd love the wire or the Sopranos

    They're fifty million in the hole so it won't work unless everyone pays.


  • #45
    Vincent Vega
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,735 ✭✭✭Vincent Vega


    Of course not.
    However.. this might be the first year it feels somewhat worthwhile, with most (or all??) of the World Cup otherwise broadcasting for free in HD for first time.
    I don't even pay for a tv subscription, but my tv can pick it up on a €12 antenna.
    Happy days :)


  • #46
    Osgoodisgood
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 870 ✭✭✭Osgoodisgood


    There are 2 obvious problems for me with the tv license as it stands.

    1. If you don't want to watch RTE why the fook should you have to give them money?

    2. When you buy a toaster are you legally compelled to send money every year to Johnson Mooney and O'Brien?

    Ridiculous and embarrassing carry on.


  • #47
    Nino Brown
    Closed Accounts Posts: 1,507 ✭✭✭Nino Brown


    kneemos wrote: »
    They're fifty million in the hole so it won't work unless everyone pays.

    Says a lot that their business can't survive even when it's the law that people have to buy from them.
    Let them sink, somebody will step up and fill the gap with a viable business model.


  • #48
    kneemos
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 22,606 ✭✭✭✭kneemos


    Nino Brown wrote: »
    Says a lot that their business can't survive even when it's the law that people have to buy from them.
    Let them sink, somebody will step up and fill the gap with a viable business model.[/quote

    Like TV3.


  • #49
    My name is URL
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 25,626 ✭✭✭✭My name is URL


    SafeSurfer wrote: »
    Miriam O'Callaghan is married to Steve Carson, editor of current affairs at RTE, formerly director of television at RTE. Miriam's ex husband is Tom Mc Gurk, sport and radio broadcaster with RTE.

    Richard Curran, presenter of Dragon's Den, recently appointed economics editor at RTE is brother of Noel Curran, current RTE director general.

    Ryan Tubridy, RTE enfant terrible is a first cousin of David Mc Savage of the savage eye and is the partner of Aoibhinn Ní Shúilleabháin

    Eileen Dunne is a daughter of Mick Dunne, former sports presenter

    Richard Boucher Hayes is a nephew of Myles Dungan

    Michelle Mc Caughron is a daughter of Tom Mc Caughron

    Lottie Ryan is the daughter of Gerry Ryan who was in turn the nephew of Eamon Andrews

    Duncan Stewart and his daughter Tania

    The list goes on

    I'd love to see a full list of RTE presenters that are related or otherwise connected to each other. The level of nepotism in the organisation is astounding. I don't know how they've gotten away with it for so long. It's a closed shop.


  • #50
    Knob Longman
    Closed Accounts Posts: 326 ✭✭Knob Longman


    Don't agree then don't pay !! Over my dead body would I pay it.


  • #51
    sligoface
    Closed Accounts Posts: 556 ✭✭✭sligoface


    If someone said I could pay 160 euro to NOT have to see or hear Tubridy or GAA sports or the rose of tralee, I'd pay. But to pay for stuff I hate? Nah.


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  • #52
    Hotale.com
    Closed Accounts Posts: 2,374 ✭✭✭Hotale.com


    sligoface wrote: »
    If someone said I could pay 160 euro to NOT have to see or hear Tubridy or GAA sports or the rose of tralee, I'd pay. But to pay for stuff I hate? Nah.

    I'll take away all your computers, radios and televisions and you can give me the money? :D


  • #53
    B.A._Baracus
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,309 ✭✭✭✭B.A._Baracus


    When you step back and look at it. Its a tax for owning an electrical device. That YOU paid for in a shop. That you must PAY for electricity to make the bloody thing work.

    Now the government wants to include owning a pc or laptop into the license. I reckon smartphones will probably be included. Even game consoles.

    Basically keep adding to the license so the fee can go up.


  • #54
    sligoface
    Closed Accounts Posts: 556 ✭✭✭sligoface


    Hotale.com wrote: »
    I'll take away all your computers, radios and televisions and you can give me the money? :D

    No what I want is to use these items without being exposed to drivel like Tubridy or gaa. Like TubridyBlock Plus for my browser or something.


  • #55
    Hotale.com
    Closed Accounts Posts: 2,374 ✭✭✭Hotale.com


    sligoface wrote: »
    No what I want is to use these items without being exposed to drivel like Tubridy or gaa. Like TubridyBlock Plus for my browser or something.

    Move to Ghana.


  • #56
    pO1Neil
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 354 ✭✭pO1Neil


    pharmaton wrote: »
    I think it's great, taxes are great.

    There not so great if you can't afford anymore. But they are great if your
    Miriam O'Callaghan who enjoys Lobster & steak every night or Eamon Dunphy who is apparently struggling to find any good coke in Dublin.


  • #57
    Cookie_Monster
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 24,755 ✭✭✭✭Cookie_Monster


    My name is URL wrote: »
    People that couldn't get a job in broadcasting if a state supported system didn't exist.

    I'm not sure that's entirely true, look at the kind of ****e that you see/ hear on Sky or NewsTalk or Today FM, for every decent presenter, there's at least one terrible one that has to be dealt with to watch/ listen to various sports, docs or otherwise.


  • #58
    No Pants
    Closed Accounts Posts: 3,346 ✭✭✭No Pants


    I can't watch RTE since February. It's great. Still pay the licence. I consider it a fee for being left alone.


  • #59
    L'Enfer du Nord
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 587 ✭✭✭L'Enfer du Nord


    Would have said yes on the basis that TV is absolute rubbish, however just watched 5 minutes of the news at 13.00. Two stupid mistakes:

    Caroline Wozniacki described as Dutch

    A piece about Alan Shatter over pictures of David Drumm outside a court house in Boston.

    Bunch of amateurs


  • #60
    kneemos
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 22,606 ✭✭✭✭kneemos


    L'Enfer du Nord wrote: »
    Would have said yes on the basis that TV is absolute rubbish, however just watched 5 minutes of the news at 13.00. Two stupid mistakes:

    Caroline Wozniacki described as Dutch

    A piece abouut Alan Shatter over pictures of David Drumm outside a court house in Boston.

    Bunch of amateurs




    Should see them when they try to explain something.


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  • #61
    gizmo555
    Closed Accounts Posts: 2,878 ✭✭✭gizmo555


    SafeSurfer wrote: »
    Richard Boucher Hayes is a nephew of Myles Dungan

    So that's where he got the accent!


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