If cannabis can thrive in most non extreme climates, why do people set up complex...

JJJJNR · 20-05-2014 08:41PM

Friend of mine stuck some plants behind a pain of glass in a south facing garden and the results were very good in a very short time.. 6 or 7 weeks.

Antar Bolaeisk · 20-05-2014 08:49PM

Worst thinly veiled "help me grow weed" thread ever.

Only way to do it is with a personal nuclear power plant and underground lair.

There are probably reasons why people don't just grow it out in the open but I can't think of why right now.

Wompa1 · 20-05-2014 08:50PM

On an interesting side note, I was in Seattle over the weekend....very odd. The smell was all over the place. It kind of sucks getting into an elevator and smelling a reek of Pot (multiple elevators)....I assume the smoking laws would still ban it from places that people work in?

I was out and about around 6:30am and there was a guy walking around with a plastic box tied around his neck, selling loose 'cigarettes' the cops came by but didn't seem to mind. Which is fine but I would think even selling cigarettes out on your own would be illegal...but in fairness. Seattle was a major hipster, artsy type of city beforehand anyways.

Titzon Toast · 20-05-2014 08:52PM

As a general rule.
Good dope = bad rope
Good rope = bad dope!

m5ex9oqjawdg2i · 20-05-2014 09:11PM

Bongalongherb wrote: »

Ireland is too wet of a climate for cannabis to grow. Like I said, if we had a good warm long summer then of course it would grow, but other than that not a hope. There's just too much wet weather.

No it's not.

Grayson · 20-05-2014 09:15PM

The main reasons for growing inside are

1) Cops dont see it.
2) you can grow more than once per year.

RDM_83 again · 20-05-2014 09:38PM

steddyeddy wrote: »

Good question. A friend of mine is a lecturer in botany and he says they're wasting their time pumping that amount of power into it (The ESB will also report anyone using insane amounts of electricity). It's not the heat or intensity of light it's the wavelength that's important.

Bongalongherb wrote: »

Hardly anyone reads on the scientific part of it I agree, they just purchase the lights and tent and extractor and grow it. Some of the smoke is terrible/bad. So I agree most don't grow the plants properly, also they don't clean/flush out chemicals (if they use them) before harvest and this surely results in terrible weed.

The lights must be some money spinner for the head shops and retailers considering the prices. Been years since I studied Botany but I have the feeling you could probably use a lot of CFL's because they have a decent Red to Far Red ratio AFAIK then throw in another light source to promote the reproductive stage and you would have a cheap but slower system (this could all be cr@p not checked anything)

pragmatic1 · 20-05-2014 09:48PM

Bongalongherb wrote: »

That is completely different than to Ireland. Certain parts of britain especially cornwall and london and around those areas get a lot better summer weather than us on the atlantic and can grow good cannabis in a field even. The problem we have here is the amount of rainfall we get as well as it is not as warm here than there in summer months.

The plants those pensioners grew was probably very low in thc and could have been male plants. You can grow male cannabis plants easily enough but that is not cannabis in the sense of a female plant of what people smoke. No-one would smoke a male plant.

I've seen a video of a wild cannabis field in Ireland. There was acres of the crop.

My friends parents used to grow it in rainy Donegal too. They had bags of the stuff.

catallus · 20-05-2014 09:52PM

pragmatic1 wrote: »

I've....[..] They had bags of the stuff.

Yes, but bags of what?

It has already been said; the control of the wavelength of the light which causes the plant to grow is the reason people set up indoor "complex growing operations"; it is in fact not that complex, it is really easy.

seamus · 20-05-2014 10:32PM

Titzon Toast wrote: »

In all fairness, the ESB would only notice if you were running a commercial operation in a private house. The electricity needed to grow one or two plants wouldn't raise any red flags.

No, but it can add up. Even a small growhouse in a closet running 24/7 could suck up a lot of power. Ones taking up an entire attic space do indeed consume a lot of power. If you seem to suddenly be consuming twice the amount of electricity you would normally, and you continue paying your bills without raising a query with the ESB, yes they will tip off the Gardai.

This is why big operations use huge diesel generators using diesel they import from across the border.

http://www.herald.ie/news/gardai-resume-search-of-1m-cannabis-farm-27941684.html

What happened in this case is that a neighbour noticed that the farm was getting deliveries of tanker loads of diesel in the dead of night. Revenue assumed they were getting dodgy diesel from across the border to fuel their vehicles, but when they went in with Gardai they discovered an enormous growhouse.

leeroybrown · 20-05-2014 10:39PM

It's a simple answer - control and speed. Someone who knows what they're doing with the right growing lamps and hydroponics can produce multiple crops of product from the same small space annually with very good quality control. Even in countries with near ideal growing conditions for cannabis plants you'll find many producers using indoor setups for at least part of the process.

Overheal · 20-05-2014 10:40PM

Granted I'm sure a few people have taken to using a heating oil generator. Only makes sense really. Nobody questions the fill, and nobody in the op really need live in the house. Plus the plants get all their heat from the lighting

My dad has several times pondered getting natural gas piped to the house: plenty of people Midwest not only use natural gas for heat and cooking but include taps in their garages to tank up cars fitted for the stuff

You could also try solar but the sheer lack of efficiency, especially in Ireland, would be crippling. Makes more sense somewhere like Nevada where they get record solar energy per sqft

srsly78 · 20-05-2014 10:49PM

seamus wrote: »

Even a small growhouse in a closet running 24/7 could suck up a lot of power.

125W is a lot power in Cavan maybe... Have you heard about these new-fangled "energy saving" lightbulbs?

desultory · 20-05-2014 11:01PM

seamus wrote: »

if you seem to suddenly be consuming twice the amount of electricity you would normally, and you continue paying your bills without raising a query with the ESB, yes they will tip off the Gardai.

Again, any evidence for this?
It seems likely but I've never seen or heard of anything of the sorts happening.

renegademaster · 20-05-2014 11:51PM

steddyeddy wrote: »

Good question. A friend of mine is a lecturer in botany and he says they're wasting their time pumping that amount of power into it (The ESB will also report anyone using insane amounts of electricity). It's not the heat or intensity of light it's the wavelength that's important.

it grows well under low wattage energy saving light bulbs!! i seen it with my own eyes and this would defo not set off any alarm bells

steddyeddy · 20-05-2014 11:54PM

I don't smoke the stuff (I have previously and ate it in Holland) but I find it f-ing mental they way possession of a plant is illegal. Ridiculous.

Bongalongherb · 20-05-2014 11:57PM

Chase Ashy Mineral wrote: »

No it's not.

Well if a person tried to grow some seedlings in this wet climate out in the open it will drown the plant completely. It just won't work to get a good female cannabis plant with buds of decent thc. If you mean growing a male plant then what's the point ? who wants male plants...No-one.

Bongalongherb · 20-05-2014 11:59PM

RDM_83 again wrote: »

The lights must be some money spinner for the head shops and retailers considering the prices. Been years since I studied Botany but I have the feeling you could probably use a lot of CFL's because they have a decent Red to Far Red ratio AFAIK then throw in another light source to promote the reproductive stage and you would have a cheap but slower system (this could all be cr@p not checked anything)

You can grow cannabis female plants with these, but the lumens need to be high for the plants to make decent thc.

desultory · 20-05-2014 11:59PM

Bongalongherb wrote: »

Well if a person tried to grow some seedlings in this wet climate out in the open it will drown the plant completely. It just won't work to get a good female cannabis plant with buds of decent thc. If you mean growing a male plant then what's the point ? who wants male plants...No-one.

Those that aren't interested in smoking it's flower would want a male plant..

So yeah no one.

Bongalongherb · 21-05-2014 12:08AM

renegademaster wrote: »

it grows well under low wattage energy saving light bulbs!! i seen it with my own eyes and this would defo not set off any alarm bells

Yes a male cannabis plant will have no problem growing under CFL lights with very low lumens for power, but if a person wanted to grow one so they could enjoy a relaxing smoke, then they obviously want a female plant which produces a reasonable amount of thc, otherwise it will be like smoking a lettuce.

Lumens - one lumen is equal to the amount of light emitted by one candle that falls on one square foot of surface one foot away.
Watts – A measure of the amount of electricity flowing through a wire. Watt hours measure the amount of watts used in one hour. A kilowatt/hour (KWH) is 1000 watt/hours.
Light Spectrum – In simplest terms – Blue (425nm – 460nm, think a 6500k CFL or MH) & Red (630 – 660nm 2700k CFL or HPS). Blue wavelengths are associated with vegetative growth, and reds with rooting & blooming.

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Plants convert light energy into plant energy via photosynthesis. There are two primary compounds that achieve photosynthesis: Chlorophyll A, and Chlorophyll B. These compounds absorb blue and red light, while nearly all other spectra are reflected away from the plant and into the nether. There is a term called the “absorption peak” which is the point at which Chlorophyll converts light energy into plant energy the most efficiently. These absorption rises can be measured in units called nanometers (nm).

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Oh the weather outside is frightful
But the herb is so delightful
And since we've got no place to go
Let It grow! Let It grow! Let It grow!!

If cannabis can thrive in most non extreme climates, why do people set up complex...

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