Is Communion or Conformation even about The Kids anymore

hoodwinked · 19-05-2014 04:23PM

honestly no.

at a family communion (yes in a pub) i was saying out loud how for my daughters communion day (and yes she goes to mass every sunday) i would either do the bouncy castle at home (because she adores them) or do something like those play area's...etc like they do for birthdays, with her and her friends.

queue a few shocked family members saying "where would i get a drink at that" and the even more shocked faces when i responded with they sell tea and coffee and you can get diluted orange for free!

Dave H · 19-05-2014 04:23PM

My sister told me there was a kid in my niece's class for her communion, after spending all morning getting ready and the parents organizing the dinner in the restaurant and the bouncy castle and everything else for later on, ended up skipping the church part because it would have cut in to the day. I honestly called boll0cks on it until it was confirmed by about 3 or 4 other parents on the day and one showed me the text the mother sent.

Arthur Beesley · 19-05-2014 04:42PM

Dave H wrote: »

My sister told me there was a kid in my niece's class for her communion, after spending all morning getting ready and the parents organizing the dinner in the restaurant and the bouncy castle and everything else for later on, ended up skipping the church part because it would have cut in to the day. I honestly called boll0cks on it until it was confirmed by about 3 or 4 other parents on the day and one showed me the text the mother sent.

In fairness, there is only 24 hours in a day. You need to prioritise.

littlelulu · 19-05-2014 04:44PM

Dave H wrote: »

My sister told me there was a kid in my niece's class for her communion, after spending all morning getting ready and the parents organizing the dinner in the restaurant and the bouncy castle and everything else for later on, ended up skipping the church part because it would have cut in to the day. I honestly called boll0cks on it until it was confirmed by about 3 or 4 other parents on the day and one showed me the text the mother sent.

Wowsers

Dave H · 19-05-2014 04:45PM

Arthur Beesley wrote: »

In fairness, there is only 24 hours in a day. You need to prioritise.

Y'know, I thought the same myself.

Once my jaw reverted back to it's original position of not dropped

Pumpkinseeds · 19-05-2014 04:47PM

If religious education were to be abolished in schools leaving parents to take their kids to mass at least twice a month, every month in order to make Communion or Confirmation the whole thing would die out within 10 years. It's all a lot of nonsense really.

hoodwinked · 19-05-2014 04:50PM

Pumpkinseeds wrote: »

If religious education were to be abolished in schools leaving parents to take their kids to mass at least twice a month, every month in order to make Communion or Confirmation the whole thing would die out within 10 years. It's all a lot of nonsense really.

it couldn't die out really though, there are those who believe and find great comfort in religion, and they pass that onto their children,

my husbands cousins in London both made their communion, but had to do it externally as its not done in schools there, it still hasn't died out over there....

Philo Beddoe · 19-05-2014 04:50PM

Dave H wrote: »

My sister told me there was a kid in my niece's class for her communion, after spending all morning getting ready and the parents organizing the dinner in the restaurant and the bouncy castle and everything else for later on, ended up skipping the church part because it would have cut in to the day. I honestly called boll0cks on it until it was confirmed by about 3 or 4 other parents on the day and one showed me the text the mother sent.

In fairness to them, they cut out the most ridiculous part of the whole sham.

endacl · 19-05-2014 04:51PM

Dave H wrote: »

Y'know, I thought the same myself.

Once my jaw reverted back to it's original position of not dropped

And in fairness, that lucky kid did dodge a bullet. They can't be claimed by the church in future to bump up the numbers!

MayoForSam · 19-05-2014 04:53PM

hoodwinked wrote: »

my husbands cousins in London both made their communion, but had to do it externally as its not done in schools there, it still hasn't died out over there....

That was probably because they had to suck up to the local priest so they could get into the Catholic school.

hoodwinked · 19-05-2014 04:57PM

MayoForSam wrote: »

That was probably because they had to suck up to the local priest so they could get into the Catholic school.

nope as far as i know nether of the schools they went to were catholic, and out of their friends they were in the minority, their family would be practicing catholic and very religious and both girls made their communion and confirmation without it being taught in school,

if you abolished it in schools here families would still do both, be it for religious or financial gain....

Dave H · 19-05-2014 04:57PM

Philo Beddoe wrote: »

In fairness to them, they cut out the most ridiculous part of the whole sham.

That wasn't really the point I was trying to make.

meoklmrk91 · 19-05-2014 05:01PM

In Ireland every happy event, sad event, family event etc. it seems has to be surrounded by drink, which is grand if there aren't kids involved, a pub is no place for kids, I have been to a few home communions and confirmations, you need to have plenty of food because a lot of people see nothing wrong with opening a can straight after coming back from the mass and are a mess come 6 o clock, I've witnessed parents of the child making their communion eating the heads off each other, grown men dancing on chairs and grown women falling around the place all while the kids are watching.

Tbh I doubt I will have this issue if I ever have my own, because they won't be christened so I won't have to deal with drunked relatives and neighbours I don't like.

123 LC · 19-05-2014 05:03PM

thought of this straight away when I read the title

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Qh2sWSVRrmo

yerra the children enjoy it as well, just an excuse to have a party really!

Colser · 19-05-2014 05:05PM

Philo Beddoe wrote: »

In fairness to them, they cut out the most ridiculous part of the whole sham.

Then they should have opted out of the whole thing from day one...why go to the meal and have the bouncy castle if the communion meant nothing to them.Surely the child must have been upset as in fairness all the communion children seem to enjoy the church part and have done huge preparation with their teachers for it.
If this actually happened its all down to the parents and I really think its unfair on the child. Why not say at the start of the year that their child will not be partaking and let it at that.

Pumpkinseeds · 19-05-2014 05:15PM

hoodwinked wrote: »

it couldn't die out really though, there are those who believe and find great comfort in religion, and they pass that onto their children,

my husbands cousins in London both made their communion, but had to do it externally as its not done in schools there, it still hasn't died out over there....

Largely though it does die out, with the exception of people who have a genuine faith. As you said in England Communion is done externally. As were Baptisms and Confirmations in the local Catholic church in the UK town we lived in.

It's just about the 3 ring circus that goes with any of those events, not the sacraments themselves.

Galwayguy35 · 19-05-2014 07:28PM

meoklmrk91 wrote: »

In Ireland every happy event, sad event, family event etc. it seems has to be surrounded by drink, which is grand if there aren't kids involved, a pub is no place for kids, I have been to a few home communions and confirmations, you need to have plenty of food because a lot of people see nothing wrong with opening a can straight after coming back from the mass and are a mess come 6 o clock, I've witnessed parents of the child making their communion eating the heads off each other, grown men dancing on chairs and grown women falling around the place all while the kids are watching.

Tbh I doubt I will have this issue if I ever have my own, because they won't be christened so I won't have to deal with drunked relatives and neighbours I don't like.

There are very few events where at least one drunken relative has to be dealt with so I wouldn't bet on that.

endacl · 19-05-2014 08:08PM

Just noticed the interesting typo in the thread title. 'Conform' - ation.

cletus van damme · 19-05-2014 08:22PM

Temptamperu wrote: »

Kids have no place in a pub no matter the day or time. But celebrating your kids special days by getting locked seems to be an Irish past-time.

this is minority behaviour. so stop with the handwringing irish are ****e people attitude.

as for kids in a pub - i go with my 11 year old to watch a match sometime.
don't get locked ,only a spa would bring their kids to the pub on a session - 2/3 pints for me and 2/3 soft drinks for him.
nice time together.

deseil · 19-05-2014 08:29PM

I hated dresses as a kid and was made wear one for my communion so I cut a big lump of my hair that morning.

I was left with a big tuft at the front of my hair and I was ate by all my aunties and my mam while they tried to cover it with a veil.

Next was the confirmation with a beautiful green and plaid ensemble :P
I shaved my eyebrow for that one my parents gave up on trying to catholicise me after that.....
Enjoyed both days after the church and fussy clothes bit though.

Elmer Blooker · 19-05-2014 09:32PM

I thought this was funny when I read it the other day.
http://www.irishtimes.com/life-and-style/do-you-know-how-difficult-it-is-to-get-a-window-cleaner-on-this-side-of-the-city-in-communion-month-1.1797096

Flippyfloppy · 19-05-2014 09:34PM

No.

Next!

Joe prim · 19-05-2014 09:39PM

D1stant wrote: »

I disagree. I love taking my six year old to the pub. Once every 6-8 weeks, just me and him. 1 pint and a chat. Its nice.

Same here, although my four-year old is geting a bit of a smokers cough from the odd crafty Major he has out in the beer garden, but it's for bonding like.

mfceiling · 19-05-2014 09:41PM

Well my little one is this saturday.

Both sets of grandparents alive and well and will be there with numerous aunts and uncles.

All the kids range from 8 downwards, so it's a bouncy castle at home and a buffet spread for the adults. There will be wine available and maybe a few beers but i doubt anyone will bother.

Next day will be mass, then on to the lego exhibition and then to smyths for a treat for herself and she'll treat her 2 sisters as well.

Really don't understand the fascination of taking the kids to the pub and getting locked.......WHY??

Sir Arthur Daley · 20-05-2014 12:41AM

The communion and confirmation is a time for the old shielas to go on the sauce and have a good time.

Irish Guitarist · 20-05-2014 04:06AM

I had my Communion 30 years ago and all my family went to the pub afterwards.

It was never about what children wanted. If it was they wouldn't have to go to mass on a Saturday.

Getting loads of money is nice though. I didn't even know I was going to get anything but ended up getting over £100.

Is Communion or Conformation even about The Kids anymore

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