A Good Garda story

Snake · 13-05-2014 06:48PM

Fair play to him and the Waterford Garda that stopped the bastard with the hatchet

Little CuChulainn · 13-05-2014 06:53PM

sillyoulfool wrote: »

Most of the corruption and abuse of power is the garda on the street while most of the mismanagement that allows it, is at senior level. A cursory viewing of the Morris

based on incidents 20 years ago, all recommendations and more implemented.,

sillyoulfool wrote: »

Smitwick

(25 years ago)

sillyoulfool wrote: »

and now Guerin

(no indication of corruption from Gardaí)

sillyoulfool wrote: »

reports are testimony to that.
It is truly an indictment of how terrible our so called police force is that we need a special thread to celebrate when they make headlines for a good reason.

The Gardaí make headlines for good reasons every day. This headline is for a great reason.

WilyCoyote · 13-05-2014 06:56PM

Little CuChulainn wrote: »

Wages or kudos? That's all you can imagine people doing a job for. I feel sorry for you. You must live a very selfish world. It's a shame that you would minimise so much good work because of some media fired view of a job, and you extend it to all the most vital jobs in society too. I can only assume you suffer from self esteem issues and feel the need to put down some of the biggest contributors to society because you contribute so little yourself and feel guilty. Again, you have my pity. I can only hope you come to terms with your own failings so you no longer need to put down others and can recognise when someone puts themself before others.

I wonder if the top paying salaried jobs were the bottom paying jobs, how many of these esteemed pioneers would go for them? You're being naive or else trolling.

If political jobs paid very little ........ how many of these self congratulatory denizens would apply to "give it all for their country and their fellow men"? Or worse still, rope other family members in?

WilyCoyote · 13-05-2014 06:57PM

Valetta wrote: »

I have read all the posts in the thread.

You are the only one to mention funerals, and it still makes no sense.

I hope you or your famy never need the services of the gardai, as I'm sure at the time they will have far more deserving people to protect.

HeidiHeidi · 13-05-2014 06:58PM

This is the most depressing thread I've read anywhere on Boards in a long time.

Well done that fella - above and beyond the call of duty.

Little CuChulainn · 13-05-2014 07:02PM

WilyCoyote wrote: »

I wonder if the top paying salaried jobs were the bottom paying jobs, how many of these esteemed pioneers would go for them? You're being naive or else trolling.

If political jobs paid very little ........ how many of these self congratulatory denizens would apply to "give it all for their country and their fellow men"? Or worse still, rope other family members in?

Me trolling? You're the one who came into a thread set up to congratulate a job well done just so you could downplay it. Some people are just determined to spread their own misery wherever you can.

WilyCoyote · 13-05-2014 07:03PM

HeidiHeidi wrote: »

This is the most depressing thread I've read anywhere on Boards in a long time.

Well done that fella - above and beyond the call of duty.

According to some of the posters here, they guy should be a recipient of The Scott Medal. Lets see how it pans out.

HeidiHeidi · 13-05-2014 07:05PM

WilyCoyote wrote: »

According to some of the posters here, they guy should be a recipient of The Scott Medal. Lets see how it pans out.

I'd say there's every chance that the guy will be the recipient of a Scott Medal for that incident. And deservedly so.

WilyCoyote · 13-05-2014 07:06PM

Little CuChulainn wrote: »

Me trolling? You're the one who came into a thread set up to congratulate a job well done just so you could downplay it. Some people are just determined to spread their own misery wherever you can.

You see, I really don't get the big deal. Shopkeepers, Pharmacy workers, Bank tellers get guns pointed at them. Why no eulogising there?
Perhaps you're into uniforms.

mfceiling · 13-05-2014 07:07PM

I wonder if anyone here realises how difficult a job being a garda is.

I've met countless garda and i'd say 99% were sound. They're doing a job which is sh*tty enough at the best of times and yet the general public give out stink about them.

Fair play to that lad in meath - the other 2 "hard men" showed their true colours when faced down by a real man.

WilyCoyote · 13-05-2014 07:08PM

HeidiHeidi wrote: »

I'd say there's every chance that the guy will be the recipient of a Scott Medal for that incident. And deservedly so.

These are the requirements:

The Scott Medal
An Garda Síochána’s Highest Honour
The Scott Medal
In 1923 Colonel Walter Scott, an Honorary Commissioner of the New York City Police and a well known philanthropist, presented An Garda Síochána, then the world’s youngest Police Force, with a $1,000 gold bond.

There was only one condition attached to the award of the Scott Medal: "No action, however heroic, will merit the award of the Scott medal unless it takes the shape of an act of personal bravery, performed intelligently in the execution of duty at imminent risk to the life of the doer, and armed with full previous knowledge of the risk involved".

The medal is in the form of a Celtic cross. There are 5 panels on the face of the medal that depict the words "The Scott Medal", "For Valour", the eagle and the shield of the USA, the harp and sunburst and the Garda Crest. The reverse of the medal carries the inscription, "Garda Síochána na h-Éireann". The 4 outside panels are the arms of the four provinces of Ireland - Ulster, Munster, Leinster and Connaught.

The Minister for Justice, Equality and Law Reform presents recipients with their medals at an annual Scott Medal ceremony. The ceremony usually takes place at the Garda College.

HeidiHeidi · 13-05-2014 07:09PM

WilyCoyote wrote: »

You see, I really don't get the big deal. Shopkeepers, Pharmacy workers, Bank tellers get guns pointed at them. Why no eulogising there?
Perhaps you're into uniforms.

Shopkeepers, pharmacy workers, bank tellers etc generally don't step in in front of a gun voluntarily, in order to stop a crime being committed. This guy did.

There's a big difference between being a victim of crime (can happen any of us, any time), and intervening (unarmed) to stop an armed crime being committed.

And to be facetious about it, there's no uniforms involved here, bar the ones the Securicor guys were wearing. So, no, that isn't a factor in my posting.

HeidiHeidi · 13-05-2014 07:12PM

WilyCoyote wrote: »

These are the requirements:

The Scott Medal
An Garda Síochána’s Highest Honour
The Scott Medal
In 1923 Colonel Walter Scott, an Honorary Commissioner of the New York City Police and a well known philanthropist, presented An Garda Síochána, then the world’s youngest Police Force, with a $1,000 gold bond.

There was only one condition attached to the award of the Scott Medal: "No action, however heroic, will merit the award of the Scott medal unless it takes the shape of an act of personal bravery, performed intelligently in the execution of duty at imminent risk to the life of the doer, and armed with full previous knowledge of the risk involved".

The medal is in the form of a Celtic cross. There are 5 panels on the face of the medal that depict the words "The Scott Medal", "For Valour", the eagle and the shield of the USA, the harp and sunburst and the Garda Crest. The reverse of the medal carries the inscription, "Garda Síochána na h-Éireann". The 4 outside panels are the arms of the four provinces of Ireland - Ulster, Munster, Leinster and Connaught.

The Minister for Justice, Equality and Law Reform presents recipients with their medals at an annual Scott Medal ceremony. The ceremony usually takes place at the Garda College.

How does this guy's action not meet that condition?

Little CuChulainn · 13-05-2014 07:14PM

HeidiHeidi wrote: »

How does this guy's action not meet that condition?

Apparently because he gets paid.

HeidiHeidi · 13-05-2014 07:15PM

Little CuChulainn wrote: »

Apparently because he gets paid.

Aha, but he was off duty. So not being paid. Even better.

WilyCoyote · 13-05-2014 07:17PM

HeidiHeidi wrote: »

Shopkeepers, pharmacy workers, bank tellers etc generally don't step in in front of a gun voluntarily, in order to stop a crime being committed. This guy did.

There's a big difference between being a victim of crime (can happen any of us, any time), and intervening (unarmed) to stop an armed crime being committed.

And to be facetious about it, there's no uniforms involved here, bar the ones the Securicor guys were wearing. So, no, that isn't a factor in my posting.

No, he did not step in front of a gun voluntarily:

The off-duty officer pursued the men into a nearby housing estate where he boxed the van in with his own car.

Gardai said the robbers got out of the vehicle and a brief standoff took place when one of the men pointed the firearm at the garda.

It is understood the men dropped the cash box and fled into fields.

Gardai said the suspected robbers were dressed in black and some items of clothing believed to have been used in the robbery were later found in a house in Streamstown, Ratoath in a follow-up search.

MagicMarker · 13-05-2014 07:21PM

Some say brave, I say stupid.

HeidiHeidi · 13-05-2014 07:24PM

WilyCoyote wrote: »

No, he did not step in front of a gun voluntarily:

The off-duty officer pursued the men into a nearby housing estate where he boxed the van in with his own car.

Gardai said the robbers got out of the vehicle and a brief standoff took place when one of the men pointed the firearm at the garda.

It is understood the men dropped the cash box and fled into fields.

Gardai said the suspected robbers were dressed in black and some items of clothing believed to have been used in the robbery were later found in a house in Streamstown, Ratoath in a follow-up search.

Ah here - robbers of cash in transit vans don't usually point a rolled-up newspaper at their victims.

The chances of them having a gun or or other highly dangerous weapon was very high indeed. The guy went into that situation, unarmed, with no means of communication to other Gardai for backup, and had a gun pointed at him.

Seriously, you have to be on a wind-up - and with me, you're succeeding, unfortunately, so I'm outta here.

I say again, well done that fella, and enjoy the medal ceremony when it comes around

WilyCoyote · 13-05-2014 07:57PM

HeidiHeidi wrote: »

Ah here - robbers of cash in transit vans don't usually point a rolled-up newspaper at their victims.

The chances of them having a gun or or other highly dangerous weapon was very high indeed. The guy went into that situation, unarmed, with no means of communication to other Gardai for backup, and had a gun pointed at him.

Seriously, you have to be on a wind-up - and with me, you're succeeding, unfortunately, so I'm outta here.

I say again, well done that fella, and enjoy the medal ceremony when it comes around

Ditto. Am off to watch Peterb' V Orient. Far more civilized

twowheelsgood · 13-05-2014 08:27PM

MagicMarker wrote: »

Some say brave, I say stupid.

A little harsh but certainly I would not expect or recommend an unarmed guard taking such a risk when there was no threat to life, or even a kidnapping in play.

If it's only money ...

Little CuChulainn · 13-05-2014 08:32PM

twowheelsgood wrote: »

A little harsh but certainly I would not expect or recommend an unarmed guard taking such a risk when there was no threat to life, or even a kidnapping in play.

If it's only money ...

Unarmed Gardaí are regularly sent to armed calls.

Micky Dolenz · 13-05-2014 08:37PM

Wait, I'm confused, So the cops knew that internal affairs were setting them up?

Little CuChulainn · 13-05-2014 08:51PM

Micky Dolenz wrote: »

Wait, I'm confused, So the cops knew that internal affairs were setting them up?

It was the cops that tipped them off

weldoninhio · 13-05-2014 10:38PM

HeidiHeidi wrote: »

Ah here - robbers of cash in transit vans don't usually point a rolled-up newspaper at their victims.

The chances of them having a gun or or other highly dangerous weapon was very high indeed. The guy went into that situation, unarmed, with no means of communication to other Gardai for backup, and had a gun pointed at him.

Seriously, you have to be on a wind-up - and with me, you're succeeding, unfortunately, so I'm outta here.

I say again, well done that fella, and enjoy the medal ceremony when it comes around

No means of communication to other Gardai for back up?? Anything else you'd like to add on or make up?? Were the robbers using heat seeking bullets or impenetrable body armour??

You know he didn't have a mobile? What was he gonna do once he had boxed them in? Sit patiently and wait for a routine patrol?? He'd be waiting a long time.

SaveOurLyric · 13-05-2014 11:10PM

On the other hand, The Journal now suggesting Maurice McCabe was a member of the IRA.

"Here’s What Happened Today: Tuesday

Everyone's been talking about Maurice McCabe, an alleged IRA member and a hero Garda."

http://www.thejournal.ie

Or not.

Sofa King Great · 14-05-2014 12:03AM

Very brave on the part of the Garda.

For those saying he was only doing what he was paid to do and that other people also have dangerous jobs, while everyone else flees dangerous situations the Gardai are the ones running toward them.

I have to laugh at all the people critical of the gardai, yet if they find themselves at risk who do they call?

(expecting obvious ghostbusters reference here)

Tail Docker · 14-05-2014 12:11AM

Little CuChulainn wrote: »

It's fairly significant if you believe that his job is to tackle armed people while he himself is not armed. It's a piss poor attitude to expect someone to do that without affording them any kind of respect or gratitude.

Yes he is. Don't worry though I'm sure your job is just as important.

Personally, and this is just me, I give a fiddlers if yer man had got away scot free. Bank-robbers don't bother me, seeing as I don't have a bank. And the moneys insured. And they have plenty to spare, mostly ours.

I'd be more impressed if he'd caught a burglar, or a rapist, or some cnut with no insurance on his shyte-box but there you go.

Sofa King Great · 14-05-2014 12:14AM

Tail Docker wrote: »

Personally, and this is just me, I give a fiddlers if yer man had got away scot free. Bank-robbers don't bother me, seeing as I don't have a bank. And the moneys insured. And they have plenty to spare, mostly ours.

I'd be more impressed if he'd caught a burglar, or a rapist, or some cnut with no insurance on his shyte-box but there you go.

Normally you hear people give out when Gardai are running checkpoints for insurance saying they "should be out catching real criminals"

Tail Docker · 14-05-2014 12:30AM

Sofa King Great wrote: »

Normally you hear people give out when Gardai are running checkpoints for insurance saying they "should be out catching real criminals"

Yeah, on mature reflection, I should have said drug dealers, but I didn't want to create too much pressure for them.

Little CuChulainn · 14-05-2014 09:22AM

Tail Docker wrote: »

Personally, and this is just me, I give a fiddlers if yer man had got away scot free. Bank-robbers don't bother me, seeing as I don't have a bank. And the moneys insured. And they have plenty to spare, mostly ours.

I'd be more impressed if he'd caught a burglar, or a rapist, or some cnut with no insurance on his shyte-box but there you go.

That's a pretty uncaring attitude towards the employees who get a gun pointed at them. But I see you use the term "bank-robbers" so I can guess where you are going with this. Some bull**** about bankers deserving it.

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