Samsung 55”UE55HU6900 Ultra HD tv 4K

bk · 13-05-2014 12:58PM

Be careful about the whole upscaled to Ultra HD thing, from what I've read of other 4K TV's it actually introduces artifiacts and ends up looking slightly worse then it would on a native 1080P TV!

I agree 4k is a less of a gimmick then 3D or Smart TV's, however I would still argue that it is mostly a marketing gimmick.

Yes, 4K is great for computer monitors where you are sitting very close to the screen and it gives improved text and for projectors projecting to a screen of more then 120"

However while you will obviously notice a sharper picture when standing directly in front of a 4k TV, at normal seating distance (6 to 10 feet), the human eye simply can't perceive a difference between 1080P and 4k TV on a TV less then 80"

If you need to buy a new TV anyway and the price premium of a 4k TV over an equivalent quality 1080P HD TV isn't too much, then fair enough, nothing wrong with a little future proofing. But if you already have a 50" TV I certainly wouldn't be rushing out to replace it with a 4K TV. I'd be holding off for OLED to come down in price, that is when the real breakthrough in picture quality is coming.

vibe666 · 13-05-2014 01:08PM

Backside wrote: »

This is not a 4k tv, its a UHDTV •Screen resolution: 3840 x 2160 (4K is 4096×2160)

Not that its a BIG difference mind you but just to be clear on the resolution. Great price point however on that spec of a TV, rather without 3D anyways as its a bit of a gimmic.

Anyone actually watch 1080p upscaled to UHD, havent got the chance myself ?

that'll be because of this ->

Difference between Ultra HD and 4K

4K Ultra High Definition is actually a derivation of the 4K digital cinema standard. However while your local multiplex shows images in native 4096 x 2160 resolution, this new consumer format is 3840 X 2160.
This is one reason why some brands prefer not to use the 4K label at all, sticking with Ultra HD instead. However, the numerical shorthand looks likely to stick. As a broad brush label it's so much snappier!

animaal · 13-05-2014 01:17PM

There's very little point in buying consumer equipment before the standards settle down.

Has anybody here gotten burned by:

- HD televisions before HDMI was commonly available?
- HD Digital media players before MKV became popular?
- HDDVD?
- Super Audio CD?

I wouldn't be at all surprised if HDMI gets updated long before RTE are broadcasting Marty Morrissey in all his 4k glory.

Backside · 13-05-2014 01:31PM

vibe666 wrote: »

that'll be because of this ->

exactly! now manufacturers can say its UHD for both resolutions rather than "nearly" 4k.

More manufacturer jargon to follow.. true 4K, Full 4K, 4K ready

Backside · 13-05-2014 01:33PM

broadcasters arent even at the point of 1080p yet, can't see them even hitting that in the next few years. 8k will be out in a few years (bit like the jump from 720p-1080p

HomeBoyDeluxe · 13-05-2014 04:41PM

3,840*2,160 (UHD) = 8,294,400 pixels or 8.2 Megapixel, SD is 720*576 = 414,720 pixels.

8.2/0.4 = 20.

So what's the point? well if you were to watch a DVD video on this display the TV needs to create 19 pixels for every real pixel it receives. Interpolation I believe its called.

Even so its very very good value, I'd say the PS4 and Xbox 1 would look great on this display!

dendof · 13-05-2014 04:54PM

I'm tempted with this as I'm in the market for a new TV in and around this price range, well €1000 but this won't break the bank. Am I right in thinking that this deal only last for today? Better do some research if so..

Barr · 13-05-2014 05:06PM

dendof wrote: »

I'm tempted with this as I'm in the market for a new TV in and around this price range, well €1000 but this won't break the bank. Am I right in thinking that this deal only last for today? Better do some research if so..

Yep, will be gone by 11pm tonight if its not sold out.

bk · 13-05-2014 05:26PM

HomeBoyDeluxe wrote: »

Even so its very very good value, I'd say the PS4 and Xbox 1 would look great on this display!

Nope, the PS4 and X1 only support a maximum resolution of 1080p for games and in fact most games on the X1 are only 720p versus 1080p on the PS4.

The PS4 and X1 also only support HDMI 1.4 (4k really needs HDMI 2.0) and neither support HEVC decoding which is really needed for 4k TV streaming services.

Netflix 4k service doesn't operate on either console.

BTW Neither the PS4 or X1 support 3D Blu Ray yet, which is ironic as the PS3 does!!

Really goes to show how immature 4k TV is. It is going to be 4 to 5 years before the rest of the industry catches up with it.

pete · 13-05-2014 05:31PM

these TVs apparently come with HEVC support and the netflix 4k app pre-installed, so no need for console support

are there any reviews online for it anywhere yet?

techdiver · 13-05-2014 05:32PM

bk wrote: »

Netflix 4k service doesn't operate on either console

It does on the HU6900 though.

Ush1 · 13-05-2014 06:44PM

3d is great, I don't think it's a gimmick at all.

Rsaeire · 13-05-2014 07:09PM

The are currently too many display types and new technologies available which is leading to confusion for potential buyers, i.e. LCD, LCD LED, Plasma, OLED, 4K/UHD, Curved screens etc. As such, I can understand why some people are debating about whether this is a good deal or not; based on the price alone, this is a bargain.

With that said, I'd agree with several of the previous posters who called out the relevancy of buying such a TV when there's a dearth of actual 4K/UHD content. Even with the upscaling capabilities available on this TV, I find it doubtful that many of you would notice much of a benefit.

Furthermore, while there are a number of content providers announcing plans to make 4K/UHD content available in the future, since it's not here now, I would keep this in mind when deciding on whether to buy this TV just because it's a bargain. If you really want to spend your money on a TV, you'd be better off buying one of the latest Panasonic plasma TVs as they offer the best picture quality at sizes and prices similar to the UE55HU6900.

HomeBoyDeluxe · 13-05-2014 07:33PM

bk wrote: »

Nope, the PS4 and X1 only support a maximum resolution of 1080p for games and in fact most games on the X1 are only 720p versus 1080p on the PS4.

That does not mean they will not look good on this display, also as stated before this display is not "4K" it is "3,840*2,160 (UHD)"

JONJO THE MISER · 13-05-2014 08:25PM

Thanks o.p brought one there for myself and one for the brother.

Barr · 13-05-2014 08:32PM

JONJO THE MISER wrote: »

Thanks o.p brought one there for myself and one for the brother.

Report back when you have it setup

I would love to hear what its like.

ted1 · 13-05-2014 08:35PM

phill106 wrote: »

€ 1 199,95 + (14,95)
Assuming that it doesnt cost 1495 for shipping!
They are actually using commas for decimal points, so price isnt that bad

Commas are used in most if Europe to seperate cents from euros

Sam Mac · 13-05-2014 09:04PM

I cannot find any in depth reviews of this online.

Sam Mac · 13-05-2014 09:05PM

JONJO THE MISER wrote: »

Thanks o.p brought one there for myself and one for the brother.

Just be careful iBood don't f**k you over and tell you its open box the next day!!

Mountjoy Mugger · 13-05-2014 09:08PM

Sam Mac wrote: »

I cannot find any in depth reviews of this online.

Theye're only coming out now, it seems. RS are only taking pre-orders.

pete · 13-05-2014 09:27PM

sold out

problem solved so

Barr · 13-05-2014 09:33PM

I haven't seen anything sell out on ibood in a while.

vibe666 · 13-05-2014 10:21PM

JONJO THE MISER wrote: »

Thanks o.p brought one there for myself and one for the brother.

pete wrote: »

sold out

problem solved so

That's all your fault Jonjo!

Some bloody miser you are. :pac:

markad1 · 13-05-2014 10:42PM

To everyone who has ordered. ...
Enjoy your new tv, it looks very impressive.
Looking forward to hear how you get on.

bk · 13-05-2014 10:47PM

HomeBoyDeluxe wrote: »

bk wrote: »

Nope, the PS4 and X1 only support a maximum resolution of 1080p for games and in fact most games on the X1 are only 720p versus 1080p on the PS4.

That does not mean they will not look good on this display, also as stated before this display is not "4K" it is "3,840*2,160 (UHD)"

It means that there would be no noticeable difference over what you would see on a good quality 1080P HD TV.

There may even be a very slightly reduction in quality due to the upconversion process, but only very slight, most probably wouldn't notice without looking very closely.

I would second the earlier advice, the best TV's to buy at the moment are Panasonic Plasmas. Far superior picture quality then any LCD/LED including these 4k TV's

vibe666 · 13-05-2014 11:14PM

You have to but new stuff though, it NEEDS you.

My old man kept putting off buying a CD player for almost 10 years because he said he didn't have any CD's to play in it.

Mind you, I think he was still bitter about getting burnt buying that betamax video player, he never did quite recover from that.

Ush1 · 14-05-2014 11:00AM

To the folks saying there is 1080p tvs with better picture, have you seen a 4k TV with 4k content on it?

The 4k is stunning and pisses all over any 1080p display I've seen. The difference in sharpness is very discernible, and I was about 4 feet or more from a 65 inch 4k TV.

techdiver · 14-05-2014 11:21AM

Ush1 wrote: »

To the folks saying there is 1080p tvs with better picture, have you seen a 4k TV with 4k content on it?

The 4k is stunning and pisses all over any 1080p display I've seen. The difference in sharpness is very discernible, and I was about 4 feet or more from a 65 inch 4k TV.

I agree, but in the defence of the dissenters, I think they were more concerned with the lack of 4K content being available. From reading many reviews of 4K units with UHD up-scaling, they seem to do a excellent job on up-scaling 1080p content though. It seems that up-scaling 1080p to UHD is better/more successful than SD to HD.

As with all these things, it's quite subjective. I still argue with people over the merits of HD over SD. Some people claim there is no difference.

I have to admit, I did crumble and buy one yesterday. Considering the price including delivery is €1214.90 and the cheapest 55" available in DID is €1,099 for a 1080p model, the extra €100 it is worth it to me. It has the netflix app built in, so at least I can sample some 4K content for real.

bk · 14-05-2014 11:22AM

Ush1 wrote: »

The 4k is stunning and pisses all over any 1080p display I've seen. The difference in sharpness is very discernible, and I was about 4 feet or more from a 65 inch 4k TV.

That is the problem, no one sits just 4 feet from a 65" TV!!

The average sitting distance from a TV is 9 feet. At that distance the human eye isn't able to discern a difference between 1080P and 4K at sizes less then 80"

BTW this is fact based on studies done into human vision by doctors.

Sure, standing right in front of a massive 65" TV in a show room, it looks great, but no one actually uses a TV in this way in the living room, it just isn't comfortable and it would make you sick after an hour of viewing. Just go look up the THX recommendations for optimum viewing distances, etc.

techdiver · 14-05-2014 11:33AM

bk wrote: »

That is the problem, no one sits just 4 feet from a 65" TV!!

The average sitting distance from a TV is 9 feet. At that distance the human eye isn't able to discern a difference between 1080P and 4K at sizes less then 80"

BTW this is fact based on studies done into human vision by doctors.

Sure, standing right in front of a massive 65" TV in a show room, it looks great, but no one actually uses a TV in this way in the living room, it just isn't comfortable and it would make you sick after an hour of viewing. Just go look up the THX recommendations for optimum viewing distances, etc.

Recommended distance from a 55" is between 6-7 feet. This is decreased with a 4K set. If you sit between 4-5 feet from the set you will note a marked improvement. I don't believe sitting 5 feet from a 55" TV is too close.

When I receive the set I will compare it to my existing Samsung LE46A656 and post an honest opinion of the difference for both up-scaling and 4K content.

Samsung 55”UE55HU6900 Ultra HD tv 4K

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