Samsung 55”UE55HU6900 Ultra HD tv 4K

Barr

This is on ibood at the moment. If you had to buy a 4k tv in a bricks and mortar store you’d need to take out a small mortgage.

http://www.ibood.com/ie/en/product_specs/47440/Samsung_55UE55HU6900_Ultra_HD_tv/

AlanS181824

That's a crazy price for a tele!

ShoulderChip

I haven't even seen 4k videos abailable to downloads etc, and I would need a new laptop/ bigger hardrive to download them, I don't think this has reached the livingroom yet, still pretty cool though

TheDriver

that's a damn good price, you'd be paying not far off that for a normal full hd

phill106

€ 1 199,95 + (14,95)
Assuming that it doesnt cost 1495 for shipping!
They are actually using commas for decimal points, so price isnt that bad

Raoul

ShoulderChip wrote: »

I haven't even seen 4k videos abailable to downloads etc, and I would need a new laptop/ bigger hardrive to download them, I don't think this has reached the livingroom yet, still pretty cool though

There are some on youtube!!

Toast

It's a bad idea to spend extra for 4k now with the purpose of future proofing because it will be years before content is available. Bluray doesn't support 4k. This generation of consoles will almost certainly never render 4k native. PC gaming is only spitting out 4k in 30fps last I checked and that's with a setup costing close to this TV. Almost every link in your AV chain will need upgrading to allow for 4k and unless a LOT of people do the same the library of films in 4k will remain small. Bluray hasn't even caught up with DVD yet.. how long will it be for things to be 4ked? Some movies and TV shows that were shot digitally can never be released in 4k. This includes things like Star Wars Episode 3

4k MIGHT eventually come around but it won't be mainstream for years... easily five of them. By that time this TV will be a dinosaur compared to similar available for cheaper. Oh yeah one more thing to consider you'll only see the benefit of the 4k over 1080p at less than 2 meters away from a 55" screen like this. Get your tape out because that's a fairly short distance and probably invalidates a 4k TV of this size for a LOT of rooms.

I'm sure this is a lovely TV but if there is an equivalent 1080p model for even a small bit less you're probably better off going with that.

vibe666

Cheapest I can find it anywhere else is almost £1300 (over €1500) and even richersounds have it at £1500, so seems like a good deal.

Only (potential) downside is the lack of 3D, but I think everyone is over the whole 3D gimmick on TV's now anyway.

Soooo tempting, even though I haven't got the money for it.

cjlawlor

ShoulderChip wrote: »

I haven't even seen 4k videos abailable to downloads etc, and I would need a new laptop/ bigger hardrive to download them, I don't think this has reached the livingroom yet, still pretty cool though

I don't think we'll be waiting too long for 4K to be more widely available - http://variety.com/2014/digital/news/why-netflix-is-pushing-breaking-bad-house-of-cards-in-4k-ultra-hd-1201176498/

Prosumer cameras like the gh4 and Blackmagic cinema camera shoot 4K and it won't be long before our phones do the same. In fact the Xperia Z2 already shoots 4K!

droidman123

ShoulderChip wrote: »

I haven't even seen 4k videos abailable to downloads etc, and I would need a new laptop/ bigger hardrive to download them, I don't think this has reached the livingroom yet, still pretty cool though

Google timescapes or samsura,great samples of 4k video.

vibe666

And the note 3 that I'm typing this on, now that I think if it!

Dammit,, I'm trying to resist!

hfallada

Netflix has been recording is original shows in 4k. But you need a really good broadband connection for 4k. Nytimes reviewed 4k a few weeks ago

the_syco

vibe666 wrote: »

Only (potential) downside is the lack of 3D, but I think everyone is over the whole 3D gimmick on TV's now anyway.

4K 3D would be cool, though.

bk

4K on a 55" TV is pointless, you won't notice any difference from 1080p HD at normal viewing distances.

4k will only start to be noticeably better at screen sizes starting at 80" or more!

4k is the new 3D, a gimmick to just sell new TV's

As it is I can barely notice a difference between a 720P video and a 1080P video on my 50" pioneer. Where I do notice a big difference is in bit-rate used. I notice a lot of pixelation, etc. on low bit-rate streams, in particular in dark scenes. I'd take a 720P high bit-rate on a Blu-Ray over a low bit-rate overly compressed 4k internet stream any day.

Increasing bit-rates of internet streams (for instance going from Netflix HD to Super HD) does more to benefit picture quality then increasing resolutions to 4k etc. But then that doesn't allow Samsung, etc. to sell new TV's

Please read this article for more information:
http://referencehometheater.com/2013/commentary/4k-calculator/
http://s3.carltonbale.com/resolution_chart.html

vibe666

hfallada wrote: »

Netflix has been recording is original shows in 4k. But you need a really good broadband connection for 4k. Nytimes reviewed 4k a few weeks ago

and they're really pushing it hard as well. You'll need about 25Mbps for to work though.

As for powerful PC's, you don't. You can buy an Intel Haswell i5 NUC (£400 all in) and will playback 4k video till the cows come home.

DVD is dead, blu ray is already on the way out. Streaming is where it's at. The last time anyone even gave me a DVD I had to rip it just so we could watch bloody thing anywhere other than in the car! :v

surpy

This or the sony kdl50w829
Yesterday i had my mind nicely made up. This throws a spanner in

only have a few hours to think about it

branners69

AlanS181824 wrote: »

That's a crazy price for a tele!

My first Pioneer plasma was around the €4k mark. My most recent Panasonic plasma was just under €2.5k. My projector was just under €2k.

This tv is a bargain!! My only doubts would be dealing with iBood if something was to go wrong!

Barr

vibe666 wrote: »

Only (potential) downside is the lack of 3D, but I think everyone is over the whole 3D gimmick on TV's now anyway.:(

It does seem to be 3D as well. It says it has a "•3D converter (2D > 3D)" in the description.

surpy

im 99% that its not 3d, have been checking this tvs smaller brother out with richersounds and both seem to hvae the same features

richersounds dopnt list it as 3d on their site either
richersounds.com/product/tv---all/samsung/ue55hu6900/sams-ue55hu6900
(i cant post clickcable links as i am a new user)

markad1

I'm hanging on for full HD OLED 55" or 65" to get cheaper.
3D no thanks, 4K in a few years.

GekkePrutser

I've already seen 4K TVs advertised for around 500 euro (Blaupunkt B39C4). Now, admittedly that one is 39" where this one on iBOOD is 55". But it seems prices on 4K's are rapidly going down, I'm going to wait this one out myself.

bk

markad1 wrote: »

I'm hanging on for full HD OLED 55" or 65" to get cheaper.
3D no thanks, 4K in a few years.

This a hundred times over.

The TV industry has actually regressed. They made a fortune when everyone upgraded to 1080 HD, but after that sales fell greatly and they are desperately trying to get people to upgrade their TV's with gimmicks like 3D TV, Smart TV and now 4k TV. But so far no one has bitten.

But worse, the quality of TV's has actually gotten worse as most companies have stopped making Plasmas which offered far better picture quality and lower prices then LCD/LED.

I'm desperately hoping that my beautiful 50" Pioneer Plasma lasts for a few more years until OLED TV's finally hit reasonable prices. Non of the crappy LCD's TV's available today come even close to matching the superb picture quality of my 5 year old Pioneer!!!

What is happening in the TV market at the moment is really sad, it is all focused on marketing gimmicks rather then quality.

vibe666

Barr wrote: »

It does seem to be 3D as well. It says it has a "•3D converter (2D > 3D)" in the description.

everything (other than ibood) i've read online says no 3D on this model and this (slightly annoying) video review.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G46rmLkuynM

there's also (sort of) confirmation in the comments of HDMI 2.0 and HEVC as well as including the 4K netflix apps so you *would* be covered as far as future proofing goes, for now at least.

there's also a lot of pushing to get a 4K blu-ray standard fixed and players out before the end of the year, so that would help if you don't have decent broadband.

techdiver

bk wrote: »

The TV industry has actually regressed. They made a fortune when everyone upgraded to 1080 HD, but after that sales fell greatly and they are desperately trying to get people to upgrade their TV's with gimmicks like 3D TV, Smart TV and now 4k TV. But so far no one has bitten.

I would agree about the gimmicks of 3D and smart tv's etc, but I don't think this applies to 4K as much as, 4k is a measurable improvement in picture quality over 1080p. I think 4K will sell better than 3D etc and with the likes of Netflix starting to produce 4K content coupled with the fact that the current catalogue of movies are "4K Ready" as soon as a delivery format is agreed. The compression formats is available (H265 and VP9), so it's a matter of putting them to work.

It seems to be moving a hell of a lot quicker than when HD came along first. I had my first HD tv a long while before there was any affordable way of viewing HD movies at home.

In saying all this, I might hold off buying too as I hope this is a sign that large scale price drops are on the way and I can pick up a 60"+ set at a good price.

vibe666

the price of decent OLED TV's doesn't seem to be moving into the "affordable" range any time soon though either. we could be waiting years for them to figure out how to make a decent sized OLED for a price most people will be willing to pay, by which time whatever is next will probably have arrived. holograms anyone?

Barr

I would love to see how this works in reality "UHD upscaling you can view everything in Ultra HD, even if there isn’t a UHD audio source. Even content with a resolution of less than 4 k has UHD definition"

With a 2 year warranty and less than €15 postage for this size TV is excellent.

Amazon.de wouldn't deliver a TV that size if you wanted to go that route.

Backside

No thanks OP, I think I will wait for 8k

vibe666

the whole upscaling thing is a bit of a bluff (assuming it's the same deal as we got with the last generation of 1080p tellys, but you can throw 4K content at it already with the built in 4k enabled netflix app or youtube (probably) or with less than €500 of a micro HTPC (see the Intel i5 NUC), so if you want to show it off to the jones's, you're sorted.

wes

I suppose if you were in the market for a new tv, this might not be a bad buy, but as others have said above 4K isn't really read for prime time just yet. Your only content will be some Netflix 4K stuff (assuming your connection is good enough), and PC gaming (will need a beast of a machine to run 4K even at 30 FPS).

Backside

This is not a 4k tv, its a UHDTV •Screen resolution: 3840 x 2160 (4K is 4096×2160)

Not that its a BIG difference mind you but just to be clear on the resolution. Great price point however on that spec of a TV, rather without 3D anyways as its a bit of a gimmic.

Anyone actually watch 1080p upscaled to UHD, havent got the chance myself ?

.G.

regarding OLED,saw this today.

http://www.techradar.com/news/television/tv/has-sony-given-up-on-the-dream-of-4k-oled-tvs--1248374

bk

Be careful about the whole upscaled to Ultra HD thing, from what I've read of other 4K TV's it actually introduces artifiacts and ends up looking slightly worse then it would on a native 1080P TV!

I agree 4k is a less of a gimmick then 3D or Smart TV's, however I would still argue that it is mostly a marketing gimmick.

Yes, 4K is great for computer monitors where you are sitting very close to the screen and it gives improved text and for projectors projecting to a screen of more then 120"

However while you will obviously notice a sharper picture when standing directly in front of a 4k TV, at normal seating distance (6 to 10 feet), the human eye simply can't perceive a difference between 1080P and 4k TV on a TV less then 80"

If you need to buy a new TV anyway and the price premium of a 4k TV over an equivalent quality 1080P HD TV isn't too much, then fair enough, nothing wrong with a little future proofing. But if you already have a 50" TV I certainly wouldn't be rushing out to replace it with a 4K TV. I'd be holding off for OLED to come down in price, that is when the real breakthrough in picture quality is coming.

vibe666

Backside wrote: »

This is not a 4k tv, its a UHDTV •Screen resolution: 3840 x 2160 (4K is 4096×2160)

Not that its a BIG difference mind you but just to be clear on the resolution. Great price point however on that spec of a TV, rather without 3D anyways as its a bit of a gimmic.

Anyone actually watch 1080p upscaled to UHD, havent got the chance myself ?

that'll be because of this ->

Difference between Ultra HD and 4K

4K Ultra High Definition is actually a derivation of the 4K digital cinema standard. However while your local multiplex shows images in native 4096 x 2160 resolution, this new consumer format is 3840 X 2160.
This is one reason why some brands prefer not to use the 4K label at all, sticking with Ultra HD instead. However, the numerical shorthand looks likely to stick. As a broad brush label it's so much snappier!

animaal

There's very little point in buying consumer equipment before the standards settle down.

Has anybody here gotten burned by:

- HD televisions before HDMI was commonly available?
- HD Digital media players before MKV became popular?
- HDDVD?
- Super Audio CD?

I wouldn't be at all surprised if HDMI gets updated long before RTE are broadcasting Marty Morrissey in all his 4k glory.

Backside

vibe666 wrote: »

that'll be because of this ->

exactly! now manufacturers can say its UHD for both resolutions rather than "nearly" 4k.

More manufacturer jargon to follow.. true 4K, Full 4K, 4K ready

Backside

broadcasters arent even at the point of 1080p yet, can't see them even hitting that in the next few years. 8k will be out in a few years (bit like the jump from 720p-1080p

HomeBoyDeluxe

3,840*2,160 (UHD) = 8,294,400 pixels or 8.2 Megapixel, SD is 720*576 = 414,720 pixels.

8.2/0.4 = 20.

So what's the point? well if you were to watch a DVD video on this display the TV needs to create 19 pixels for every real pixel it receives. Interpolation I believe its called.

Even so its very very good value, I'd say the PS4 and Xbox 1 would look great on this display!

dendof

I'm tempted with this as I'm in the market for a new TV in and around this price range, well €1000 but this won't break the bank. Am I right in thinking that this deal only last for today? Better do some research if so..

Barr

dendof wrote: »

I'm tempted with this as I'm in the market for a new TV in and around this price range, well €1000 but this won't break the bank. Am I right in thinking that this deal only last for today? Better do some research if so..

Yep, will be gone by 11pm tonight if its not sold out.

bk

HomeBoyDeluxe wrote: »

Even so its very very good value, I'd say the PS4 and Xbox 1 would look great on this display!

Nope, the PS4 and X1 only support a maximum resolution of 1080p for games and in fact most games on the X1 are only 720p versus 1080p on the PS4.

The PS4 and X1 also only support HDMI 1.4 (4k really needs HDMI 2.0) and neither support HEVC decoding which is really needed for 4k TV streaming services.

Netflix 4k service doesn't operate on either console.

BTW Neither the PS4 or X1 support 3D Blu Ray yet, which is ironic as the PS3 does!!

Really goes to show how immature 4k TV is. It is going to be 4 to 5 years before the rest of the industry catches up with it.

pete

these TVs apparently come with HEVC support and the netflix 4k app pre-installed, so no need for console support

are there any reviews online for it anywhere yet?

techdiver

bk wrote: »

Netflix 4k service doesn't operate on either console

It does on the HU6900 though.

Ush1

3d is great, I don't think it's a gimmick at all.

Rsaeire

The are currently too many display types and new technologies available which is leading to confusion for potential buyers, i.e. LCD, LCD LED, Plasma, OLED, 4K/UHD, Curved screens etc. As such, I can understand why some people are debating about whether this is a good deal or not; based on the price alone, this is a bargain.

With that said, I'd agree with several of the previous posters who called out the relevancy of buying such a TV when there's a dearth of actual 4K/UHD content. Even with the upscaling capabilities available on this TV, I find it doubtful that many of you would notice much of a benefit.

Furthermore, while there are a number of content providers announcing plans to make 4K/UHD content available in the future, since it's not here now, I would keep this in mind when deciding on whether to buy this TV just because it's a bargain. If you really want to spend your money on a TV, you'd be better off buying one of the latest Panasonic plasma TVs as they offer the best picture quality at sizes and prices similar to the UE55HU6900.

HomeBoyDeluxe

bk wrote: »

Nope, the PS4 and X1 only support a maximum resolution of 1080p for games and in fact most games on the X1 are only 720p versus 1080p on the PS4.

That does not mean they will not look good on this display, also as stated before this display is not "4K" it is "3,840*2,160 (UHD)"

JONJO THE MISER

Thanks o.p brought one there for myself and one for the brother.

Barr

JONJO THE MISER wrote: »

Thanks o.p brought one there for myself and one for the brother.

Report back when you have it setup I would love to hear what its like.

ted1

phill106 wrote: »

€ 1 199,95 + (14,95)
Assuming that it doesnt cost 1495 for shipping!
They are actually using commas for decimal points, so price isnt that bad

Commas are used in most if Europe to seperate cents from euros

Sam Mac

I cannot find any in depth reviews of this online.

Sam Mac

JONJO THE MISER wrote: »

Thanks o.p brought one there for myself and one for the brother.

Just be careful iBood don't f**k you over and tell you its open box the next day!!

Mountjoy Mugger

Sam Mac wrote: »

I cannot find any in depth reviews of this online.

Theye're only coming out now, it seems. RS are only taking pre-orders.