Samsung 55”UE55HU6900 Ultra HD tv 4K

Barr · 12-05-2014 11:10PM #1

This is on ibood at the moment. If you had to buy a 4k tv in a bricks and mortar store you’d need to take out a small mortgage.

http://www.ibood.com/ie/en/product_specs/47440/Samsung_55UE55HU6900_Ultra_HD_tv/

AlanS181824 · 12-05-2014 11:16PM

That's a crazy price for a tele!

ShoulderChip · 12-05-2014 11:27PM

I haven't even seen 4k videos abailable to downloads etc, and I would need a new laptop/ bigger hardrive to download them, I don't think this has reached the livingroom yet, still pretty cool though

TheDriver · 12-05-2014 11:56PM

that's a damn good price, you'd be paying not far off that for a normal full hd

phill106 · 13-05-2014 12:05AM

€ 1 199,95 + (14,95)
Assuming that it doesnt cost 1495 for shipping!
They are actually using commas for decimal points, so price isnt that bad

Raoul · 13-05-2014 12:27AM

ShoulderChip wrote: »

I haven't even seen 4k videos abailable to downloads etc, and I would need a new laptop/ bigger hardrive to download them, I don't think this has reached the livingroom yet, still pretty cool though

There are some on youtube!!

Toast · 13-05-2014 12:30AM

It's a bad idea to spend extra for 4k now with the purpose of future proofing because it will be years before content is available. Bluray doesn't support 4k. This generation of consoles will almost certainly never render 4k native. PC gaming is only spitting out 4k in 30fps last I checked and that's with a setup costing close to this TV. Almost every link in your AV chain will need upgrading to allow for 4k and unless a LOT of people do the same the library of films in 4k will remain small. Bluray hasn't even caught up with DVD yet.. how long will it be for things to be 4ked? Some movies and TV shows that were shot digitally can never be released in 4k. This includes things like Star Wars Episode 3

4k MIGHT eventually come around but it won't be mainstream for years... easily five of them. By that time this TV will be a dinosaur compared to similar available for cheaper. Oh yeah one more thing to consider you'll only see the benefit of the 4k over 1080p at less than 2 meters away from a 55" screen like this. Get your tape out because that's a fairly short distance and probably invalidates a 4k TV of this size for a LOT of rooms.

I'm sure this is a lovely TV but if there is an equivalent 1080p model for even a small bit less you're probably better off going with that.

vibe666 · 13-05-2014 12:30AM

Cheapest I can find it anywhere else is almost £1300 (over €1500) and even richersounds have it at £1500, so seems like a good deal.

Only (potential) downside is the lack of 3D, but I think everyone is over the whole 3D gimmick on TV's now anyway.

Soooo tempting, even though I haven't got the money for it.

cjlawlor · 13-05-2014 12:53AM

ShoulderChip wrote: »

I haven't even seen 4k videos abailable to downloads etc, and I would need a new laptop/ bigger hardrive to download them, I don't think this has reached the livingroom yet, still pretty cool though

I don't think we'll be waiting too long for 4K to be more widely available - http://variety.com/2014/digital/news/why-netflix-is-pushing-breaking-bad-house-of-cards-in-4k-ultra-hd-1201176498/

Prosumer cameras like the gh4 and Blackmagic cinema camera shoot 4K and it won't be long before our phones do the same. In fact the Xperia Z2 already shoots 4K!

13-05-2014 01:02AM

ShoulderChip wrote: »

I haven't even seen 4k videos abailable to downloads etc, and I would need a new laptop/ bigger hardrive to download them, I don't think this has reached the livingroom yet, still pretty cool though

Google timescapes or samsura,great samples of 4k video.

vibe666 · 13-05-2014 01:05AM

And the note 3 that I'm typing this on, now that I think if it!

Dammit,, I'm trying to resist!

hfallada · 13-05-2014 01:05AM

Netflix has been recording is original shows in 4k. But you need a really good broadband connection for 4k. Nytimes reviewed 4k a few weeks ago

the_syco · 13-05-2014 01:08AM

vibe666 wrote: »

Only (potential) downside is the lack of 3D, but I think everyone is over the whole 3D gimmick on TV's now anyway.

4K 3D would be cool, though.

bk · 13-05-2014 01:19AM

4K on a 55" TV is pointless, you won't notice any difference from 1080p HD at normal viewing distances.

4k will only start to be noticeably better at screen sizes starting at 80" or more!

4k is the new 3D, a gimmick to just sell new TV's

As it is I can barely notice a difference between a 720P video and a 1080P video on my 50" pioneer. Where I do notice a big difference is in bit-rate used. I notice a lot of pixelation, etc. on low bit-rate streams, in particular in dark scenes. I'd take a 720P high bit-rate on a Blu-Ray over a low bit-rate overly compressed 4k internet stream any day.

Increasing bit-rates of internet streams (for instance going from Netflix HD to Super HD) does more to benefit picture quality then increasing resolutions to 4k etc. But then that doesn't allow Samsung, etc. to sell new TV's

Please read this article for more information:
http://referencehometheater.com/2013/commentary/4k-calculator/
http://s3.carltonbale.com/resolution_chart.html

vibe666 · 13-05-2014 01:25AM

hfallada wrote: »

Netflix has been recording is original shows in 4k. But you need a really good broadband connection for 4k. Nytimes reviewed 4k a few weeks ago

and they're really pushing it hard as well. You'll need about 25Mbps for to work though.

As for powerful PC's, you don't. You can buy an Intel Haswell i5 NUC (£400 all in) and will playback 4k video till the cows come home.

DVD is dead, blu ray is already on the way out. Streaming is where it's at. The last time anyone even gave me a DVD I had to rip it just so we could watch bloody thing anywhere other than in the car! :v

surpy · 13-05-2014 08:37AM

This or the sony kdl50w829
Yesterday i had my mind nicely made up. This throws a spanner in

only have a few hours to think about it

branners69 · 13-05-2014 08:51AM

AlanS181824 wrote: »

That's a crazy price for a tele!

My first Pioneer plasma was around the €4k mark. My most recent Panasonic plasma was just under €2.5k. My projector was just under €2k.

This tv is a bargain!! My only doubts would be dealing with iBood if something was to go wrong!

Barr · 13-05-2014 09:07AM

vibe666 wrote: »

Only (potential) downside is the lack of 3D, but I think everyone is over the whole 3D gimmick on TV's now anyway.:(

It does seem to be 3D as well. It says it has a "•3D converter (2D > 3D)" in the description.

surpy · 13-05-2014 09:18AM

im 99% that its not 3d, have been checking this tvs smaller brother out with richersounds and both seem to hvae the same features

richersounds dopnt list it as 3d on their site either
richersounds.com/product/tv---all/samsung/ue55hu6900/sams-ue55hu6900
(i cant post clickcable links as i am a new user)

markad1 · 13-05-2014 09:23AM

I'm hanging on for full HD OLED 55" or 65" to get cheaper.
3D no thanks, 4K in a few years.

GekkePrutser · 13-05-2014 09:32AM

I've already seen 4K TVs advertised for around 500 euro (Blaupunkt B39C4). Now, admittedly that one is 39" where this one on iBOOD is 55". But it seems prices on 4K's are rapidly going down, I'm going to wait this one out myself.

bk · 13-05-2014 09:34AM

markad1 wrote: »

I'm hanging on for full HD OLED 55" or 65" to get cheaper.
3D no thanks, 4K in a few years.

This a hundred times over.

The TV industry has actually regressed. They made a fortune when everyone upgraded to 1080 HD, but after that sales fell greatly and they are desperately trying to get people to upgrade their TV's with gimmicks like 3D TV, Smart TV and now 4k TV. But so far no one has bitten.

But worse, the quality of TV's has actually gotten worse as most companies have stopped making Plasmas which offered far better picture quality and lower prices then LCD/LED.

I'm desperately hoping that my beautiful 50" Pioneer Plasma lasts for a few more years until OLED TV's finally hit reasonable prices. Non of the crappy LCD's TV's available today come even close to matching the superb picture quality of my 5 year old Pioneer!!!

What is happening in the TV market at the moment is really sad, it is all focused on marketing gimmicks rather then quality.

vibe666 · 13-05-2014 09:50AM

Barr wrote: »

It does seem to be 3D as well. It says it has a "•3D converter (2D > 3D)" in the description.

everything (other than ibood) i've read online says no 3D on this model and this (slightly annoying) video review.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G46rmLkuynM

there's also (sort of) confirmation in the comments of HDMI 2.0 and HEVC as well as including the 4K netflix apps so you *would* be covered as far as future proofing goes, for now at least.

there's also a lot of pushing to get a 4K blu-ray standard fixed and players out before the end of the year, so that would help if you don't have decent broadband.

techdiver · 13-05-2014 10:31AM

bk wrote: »

The TV industry has actually regressed. They made a fortune when everyone upgraded to 1080 HD, but after that sales fell greatly and they are desperately trying to get people to upgrade their TV's with gimmicks like 3D TV, Smart TV and now 4k TV. But so far no one has bitten.

I would agree about the gimmicks of 3D and smart tv's etc, but I don't think this applies to 4K as much as, 4k is a measurable improvement in picture quality over 1080p. I think 4K will sell better than 3D etc and with the likes of Netflix starting to produce 4K content coupled with the fact that the current catalogue of movies are "4K Ready" as soon as a delivery format is agreed. The compression formats is available (H265 and VP9), so it's a matter of putting them to work.

It seems to be moving a hell of a lot quicker than when HD came along first. I had my first HD tv a long while before there was any affordable way of viewing HD movies at home.

In saying all this, I might hold off buying too as I hope this is a sign that large scale price drops are on the way and I can pick up a 60"+ set at a good price.

vibe666 · 13-05-2014 10:52AM

the price of decent OLED TV's doesn't seem to be moving into the "affordable" range any time soon though either. we could be waiting years for them to figure out how to make a decent sized OLED for a price most people will be willing to pay, by which time whatever is next will probably have arrived. holograms anyone?

Barr · 13-05-2014 11:41AM

I would love to see how this works in reality "UHD upscaling you can view everything in Ultra HD, even if there isn’t a UHD audio source. Even content with a resolution of less than 4 k has UHD definition"

With a 2 year warranty and less than €15 postage for this size TV is excellent.

Amazon.de wouldn't deliver a TV that size if you wanted to go that route.

Backside · 13-05-2014 12:00PM

No thanks OP, I think I will wait for 8k

vibe666 · 13-05-2014 12:02PM

the whole upscaling thing is a bit of a bluff (assuming it's the same deal as we got with the last generation of 1080p tellys, but you can throw 4K content at it already with the built in 4k enabled netflix app or youtube (probably) or with less than €500 of a micro HTPC (see the Intel i5 NUC), so if you want to show it off to the jones's, you're sorted.

wes · 13-05-2014 12:05PM

I suppose if you were in the market for a new tv, this might not be a bad buy, but as others have said above 4K isn't really read for prime time just yet. Your only content will be some Netflix 4K stuff (assuming your connection is good enough), and PC gaming (will need a beast of a machine to run 4K even at 30 FPS).

Backside · 13-05-2014 12:21PM

This is not a 4k tv, its a UHDTV •Screen resolution: 3840 x 2160 (4K is 4096×2160)

Not that its a BIG difference mind you but just to be clear on the resolution. Great price point however on that spec of a TV, rather without 3D anyways as its a bit of a gimmic.

Anyone actually watch 1080p upscaled to UHD, havent got the chance myself ?

.G. · 13-05-2014 12:53PM

regarding OLED,saw this today.

http://www.techradar.com/news/television/tv/has-sony-given-up-on-the-dream-of-4k-oled-tvs--1248374

Samsung 55”UE55HU6900 Ultra HD tv 4K

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