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10 years, 10 whole years.

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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 16,768 ✭✭✭✭tomwaterford


    Why not just get a mortgage and pay it off early?

    didn't want to pay the interest on top of the principal???


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 424 ✭✭SimonLynch


    Can't really admire them, if they were Irish this would be in the 'stingiest' thread. No benefit to the local/national economy* but they have a flat in Ireland. Sorry for being miserable, not usual for me :-)

    Edit: *Yes they pay income taxes, VAT is what I meant.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,229 ✭✭✭LeinsterDub


    didn't want to pay the interest on top of the principal???

    I'd rather live and pay some interest. Also unless they where smart and had there money invested it sitting in a bank isn't exactly working for them


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 16,768 ✭✭✭✭tomwaterford


    I'd rather live and pay some interest. Also unless they where smart and had there money invested it sitting in a bank isn't exactly working for them

    I cant understand...working 10 years and then buying apartment after ten years misery
    I know a good many EE that do similar but are buying/building houses out home


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,297 ✭✭✭✭Sam Kade


    SimonLynch wrote: »
    Can't really admire them, if they were Irish this would be in the 'stingiest' thread. No benefit to the local/national economy but they have a flat in Ireland. Sorry for being miserable, not usual for me :-)
    They contributed when they paid for the house.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 12,953 ✭✭✭✭Dtp1979


    The problem is that they have brainwashed themselves into living that kinda lifestyle now and they will probably continue to live like that


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,264 ✭✭✭✭jester77


    10 whole years of self-inflicted impoverishment, what a very sad existence and for what? And the worst thing is, they were 10 of the better years of their lives. As you get older and have a family you don't get the freedom that you had earlier. I lived it up during my 20s and 30s, got to travel and live in various parts of the world before starting a family and buying a house. I may not be mortgage free, but it's just another bill and I can still go on holidays and enjoy life.

    Bit of a crazy sacrifice to make, but I also work with a lad Poland who is like that. Doesn't want to take out a mortgage, had built a house back in Poland and travels back regularly to keep tabs on it. Has no life at all, works, brings cheese sandwiches every day and his health is taking a beating. He's the same age as me but looks 15 years older. Wants to retire early and move back. But he'll put himself in an early grave before he can enjoy it if he keeps going the way he is.


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 1,513 ✭✭✭whupdedo


    Ten years a slave


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,537 ✭✭✭Arthur Beesley


    Where did they keep the cash as it built up over the 10 years? In a shoebox under the bed?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,695 ✭✭✭December2012


    I'm all for saving and preparing for a rainy day, but I have to enjoy my life now. I have kids and I would not have put off my wish to have them when I did. I got my kids in my life when I wanted them (now that suits me, maybe not this couple).

    My husband would be like that couple in ways. I'm trying to stop his tendencies like that - we have to stop and smell the roses when the roses are in bloom.

    Mortgage free life is great, but not worth having no life.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 266 ✭✭THall04


    For somebody working full time , with no mortgage and mabey no car....saving 100 euro a week shouldn't be a big deal.

    If two people could save 200 per week that would add up to 104000 Euro over 10 years.....enough to buy an apartment in north Dublin(late 2013...probably not much longer.....).

    If they didn't drink or smoke much they may have had a fairly comfortable life since 2003.

    The hard part is not blowing your savings on expensive crap ye don't really need like brand new cars or expensive cameras you'll never use ( what I usually do :( )


  • Posts: 45,738 ✭✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    Where did they keep the cash as it built up over the 10 years? In a shoebox under the bed?

    Bank?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,537 ✭✭✭Gyalist


    I bought a house in '94 and for the first four years paid the regular monthly mortgage payment. By '98 the economy had taken off and my business was doing extremely well so decided to pay off the mortgage. I still clearly remember the feeling of walking in to the bank in 2001 to make the final payment.

    In 2002, having become fed up with creches and childminders, we decided to employ someone to mind our son in our home. She was Polish and had originally come to Ireland on a 90 days visitor's visa so we had to jump through a few hoops to be able to employ her legally. She was brilliant. Even though she had only been employed to mind my son she'd have the house spick and span, laundry done and ironed. Our neighbour noticed how hardworking she was and in the mornings when my son was at school she'd do a few hours a week cleaning for her. In just over year she was in so much demand for house cleaning that when Poland joined the EU in '04 and she was no longer under work permit restrictions, she set up her own house cleaning business. Her husband came over to join her and even though he spoke not a word of English he too became in great demand doing house maintenance work that builders were turning down at the time. They went back to Poland in early '08 having saved enough money to buy an old hunting lodge there that they converted into a nice little hotel.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,910 ✭✭✭✭padd b1975


    A decade of existing rather than living? No thanks.

    You don't have to spend money to be happy or 'live'.

    For all you know they could have lots of hobbies that are free.

    Walking, cycling, mountain climbing, swimming, reading, listening to music, visiting museums, volunteering etc etc


    There was a thread on here recently about vacancies in hotel work (similar pay scale I would imagine).

    Every poster on that thread who turned their noses up at such low paid work should be ashamed of themselves when you see what this couple have achieved.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,537 ✭✭✭Arthur Beesley


    rarnes1 wrote: »
    Bank?

    So they must have withdrawn the full amount in cash. Nice.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 14,949 ✭✭✭✭IvyTheTerrible


    My in-laws scrimped and saved for years so that they could buy a site and build their own house without needing a loan. It's great that they are not in debt to anyone but the mindset of spending nothing is a habit now even though they have plenty of money in the bank.


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 5,575 ✭✭✭AlanS181824


    That's a crazy way to live. What's the point in living if you're not gonna live to the full!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,501 ✭✭✭FullblownRose


    There are plenty of people living in a similarly frugal basic way just to pay the normal monthly repayments, or PART pay them, nevermind to save enough to buy outright.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,537 ✭✭✭Gyalist


    That's a crazy way to live. What's the point in living if you're not gonna live to the full!

    Have you ever heard of the concept of delayed/deferred gratification? In an economy predicated on relatively easy credit it seems like an old-fashioned idea but it would be unwise to scoff at it.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,165 ✭✭✭enda1


    So they must have withdrawn the full amount in cash. Nice.

    "Buying in cash" doesn't mean arriving at the estate agents with two bags of loot with dollar signs on the side. It's just an expression for buying without credit.


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  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 5,575 ✭✭✭AlanS181824


    Gyalist wrote: »
    Have you ever heard of the concept of delayed/deferred gratification? In an economy based on relatively easy credit it seems like an old-fashioned idea but it would be unwise to scoff at it.

    Haven't a clue what any of that means :pac:


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,886 ✭✭✭JuliusCaesar


    No, you wont get those 10 years back. I would rather work hard when I am middle aged and the kids have grown up.

    That's assuming you have the health and the energy to work hard when you're middle-aged.






    You might just be like the rest of us, exhausted.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,981 ✭✭✭Caliden


    I'd rather get a mortgage, that way you get the house today instead of dumping money into renting while you're saving.

    If they got the mortgage and somehow managed to get a 10 year mortgage it would've cost them less...


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 1,180 ✭✭✭Sunglasses Ron


    Where's the house? You could buy a house for cash in some parts of the country for €50k.
    I wouldn't want to live there though.

    joe stodge wrote: »
    It's an apartment in north Dublin.

    For people so used to living so badly I am surprised they didn't just plump for one of those 50K houses in one of the less salubrious parts of Limerick.


    Some people might call what they did hard working, and it is, but it is tight arsed. Surely if they were even only half as frugal they could have got a property in Lithuania years ago? And considering how much the prices kept increasing until 2008 or so how long did they originally plan to live like this to acquire a property when the cost of said property seemed to be on a never ending rise? They must have at least treated themselves to a few cans when the prices nosedived and they realised they could knock a further 15 years off their plan.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,054 ✭✭✭IK09


    Id love to save the money, then invest in a product with a guaranteed return of the mortgage rate +.5%. Take out a mortgage, pay it with the investment return. Then at the end of the mortgage term, still have my capital sum. The day the mortgage ended, you would be mortgage free and would have a large amount of money. This is my dream.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 904 ✭✭✭Drakares


    bluewolf wrote: »
    Of all the things to save for, I have zero interest in buying a house

    This.

    I don't get the mentality of sinking 300 grand into four walls and then being stuck to them for the rest of your life. Absolute madness in my eyes. I do have a decent job, am getting married next year and have absolutely no intention of moving away from where we're currently living.

    I still have absolutely no intention of ever buying a house. I don't see the point, really don't. "Renting is dead Money" doesn't have any place in my view of the world :)


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 3,126 ✭✭✭Santa Cruz


    I do know several East Europeans,(Polish, Moldovan etc.) who do live basically enough and have started investing their savings back home. We really don't realise the poor standard of living in some of the former Communist countries. Many of these immigrants also have no intention of returning home as they appreciate the standards of living, education, choice of shopping etc we have here even though we are always whinging about the place. They aren't as inclined to waste money like we do. No hitting the pub for 8 pints while watching the Sky match (but then of course we don't see that as a waste!)


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,560 ✭✭✭K.Flyer


    I say fair play to them!
    They obviously did the maths regarding their rental / living costs and their potential savings against getting a mortgage and how much interest they would have to pay on it.
    They struck lucky that the market dropped the way it did and most likely bought sooner or better than they expected.
    The house is fully theirs now and they have that peace of mind. You have to commend their dedication.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,981 ✭✭✭Caliden


    Drakares wrote: »
    This.

    I don't get the mentality of sinking 300 grand into four walls and then being stuck to them for the rest of your life. Absolute madness in my eyes. I do have a decent job, am getting married next year and have absolutely no intention of moving away from where we're currently living.

    I still have absolutely no intention of ever buying a house. I don't see the point, really don't. "Renting is dead Money" doesn't have any place in my view of the world :)


    Who says you're stuck there for life?

    You do realise it's possible to sell it and move?


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,903 ✭✭✭✭Riskymove


    joe stodge wrote: »
    I couldn't do it, could any of you put yourselves through that for 10 years just to be mortgage free??

    I'd rather be 20 years in a house that I wanted to be in with a mortgage then spend 10 years like that


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