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Bomb found in Lucan - Supposedly aimed at Giro d'Italia event in Dublin

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  • #62
    kippy
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 20,008 ✭✭✭✭kippy


    delthedriver wrote: »
    What is the difference between IRA and Real IRA?

    A name and history.

    Both savages killer of innocent people, given the opportunity, both illegal organisations, both acting against the wishes of the majority in this state, both with significent criminal interests outside of the general terrorism angle etc etc.

    Differences, one group have signed up to an agreement but the guys in that group who didnt like that policy formed another group. Still both deplorable groups of terrorists who should have ever letter of the law thrown at them.


  • #63
    NipNip
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 656 ✭✭✭NipNip


    What does 'primed' mean exactly? Is this something that takes a few minutes or what?


  • #64
    Sunglasses Ron
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 1,180 ✭✭✭Sunglasses Ron


    sparrowcar wrote: »
    Why do some people on boards.ie insist on using only 1% of their brain?

    There is no reason a dissident republican group would set off a bomb in Dublin during a crowded sporting event... It would signal the compete end to all dissedent groups, they would never have any support after something like that.

    Their real support is so low anyway it would hardly make much of a difference. I think at this stage most Republicans in the south know we currently can't afford to take the north if they gave it back tomorrow and most Northern republicans would put reunification on ice rather than join our economic basket case tomorrow.


  • #65
    Amalgam
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,030 ✭✭✭Amalgam


    NipNip wrote: »
    What does 'primed' mean exactly? Is this something that takes a few minutes or what?

    I think you insert a 'cap', which, as far as I understand, is a small explosive device intended to promote an explosion in the surrounding material.


  • #66
    porsche959
    Closed Accounts Posts: 2,499 ✭✭✭porsche959


    bumper234 wrote: »
    Aaaaaand? Will need a bit more detail than one or two word answers please.

    I think the new poster is referring to hotel being formerly owned by Jim Mansfield.


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  • #67
    harry Bailey esq
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,814 ✭✭✭harry Bailey esq


    Amalgam wrote: »
    I think you insert a 'cap', which, as far as I understand, is a small explosive device intended to promote an explosion in the surrounding material.

    note to self. Always be nice to Amalgam on boards :):)


  • #68
    fullaljackeen
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 133 ✭✭fullaljackeen


    Journalist should be disciplined. Thats stupid accusation to make. Nothing to back anything up with. Ridiculous.


  • #69
    Amalgam
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,030 ✭✭✭Amalgam


    harry Bailey esq wrote: »
    note to self. Always be nice to Amalgam on boards :):)

    Blasting cap, interesting concept, some explosions need a specific shock, to get them to explode..

    Have a read: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Blasting_cap

    Back in the 80s, they weren't far from the news, always being trafficked or intercepted by security forces.


  • #70
    periodictable
    Closed Accounts Posts: 931 ✭✭✭periodictable


    corner of hells wrote: »
    I'd also like to see the designer of the car the bomb was in hung too and maybe the bin lorry driver who woke me up this morning hung as well.
    Which car designers and bin men indiscriminately blow people to pieces?


  • #71
    old_aussie
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,409 ✭✭✭old_aussie


    Can ya feel the luv in this thread?


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  • #72
    bumper234
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    fullaljackeen wrote: »
    Journalist should be disciplined. Thats stupid accusation to make. Nothing to back anything up with. Ridiculous.

    If it walks like a duck

    And if it quacks like a duck

    http://www.rte.ie/news/2014/0512/616722-dublin-bomb-hotel/
    A 55-year-old man known to gardaí as a dissident republican with links to the Real IRA was arrested yesterday morning as part of a follow-up search at a flat in west Dublin.

    Bomb-making components, including timing units and mercury switches, were discovered in the flat.


  • #73
    corner of hells
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,439 ✭✭✭corner of hells


    periodictable wrote: »
    Which car designers and bin men indiscriminately blow people to pieces?

    I really am joking , I'm commenting on the suggestion of the poster that we hang people.

    Unless your knowledge extends to an awareness that there maybe be assassin bin drivers and car designers.


  • #74
    LuckyLloyd
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 36,962 ✭✭✭✭LuckyLloyd


    The Independent is a tabloid rag that holds and pushes a number of deep rooted political agendas. It's not even worth a browse for headlines as there are better outlets that focus on the bullet points of the daily news.

    Another rubbish 'story' from them but they hit their mark because it fuels nonsense such as:
    delthedriver wrote: »
    It will be interesting to hear the response from SF on this !



    Evil, shameful behaviour !


    The Giro travelling from Belfast to Dublin was seen as a wonderful sporting event with cooperation from people and sporting bodies from North and South.


    The sporting eyes of the world was on Ireland yesterday. It was also a wonderful opportunity to promote Ireland as a holiday destination which could generate tourist revenue for the island.


    Well done to the Gardaí and Security forces who prevented potential carnage on the streets of Dublin yesterday.


  • #75
    bear1
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,971 ✭✭✭✭bear1


    bumper234 wrote: »
    If it walks like a duck

    And if it quacks like a duck

    http://www.rte.ie/news/2014/0512/616722-dublin-bomb-hotel/

    If found guilty then I hope life imprisonment.
    It's just way too easy to transport anything over this border and I think it's something both the UK and Irish governments should start looking at.
    We were lucky this time but what about the next?


  • #76
    failinis
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,691 ✭✭✭failinis


    Grayson wrote: »
    You have to assume that it was going to be used. Those groups have set off bombs that were larger in public places (Omagh?).
    Saying they weren't going to set it off is like saying that a dangerous dog that is growling isn't going to bite.

    Yes, but generally most bombs by the IRA (Or oglaigh na heireann/other Republican groups/who ever) after not made to go off.

    Small pipe bombs outside culture offices in the middle of the night and many more bombs just left to be found and then defused by the army.

    I do agree that every situation needs to be treated as if the worst outcome could have occurred, but I highly doubt Republicans would bomb anywhere (as in let it go off) in the South.


  • #77
    Seaneh
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 18,300 ✭✭✭✭Seaneh


    delthedriver wrote: »
    It will be interesting to hear the response from SF on this !

    Why would SF's response to a threat from dissident republicans, who they do not represent and who reject SF and the good friday agreement, be any different than any other parties?


  • #78
    bumper234
    Closed Accounts Posts: 10,250 ✭✭✭✭bumper234


    failinis wrote: »
    Yes, but generally most bombs by the IRA (Or oglaigh na heireann/other Republican groups/who ever) after not made to go off.

    Small pipe bombs outside culture offices in the middle of the night and many more bombs just left to be found and then defused by the army.

    I do agree that every situation needs to be treated as if the worst outcome could have occurred, but I highly doubt Republicans would bomb anywhere (as in let it go off) in the South.

    Regardless of whether it was "made to go off" it was left outside a packed hotel with the potential to kill hundreds of innocent people.


  • #79
    Heroditas
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,353 ✭✭✭✭Heroditas


    corner of hells wrote: »
    Clearly its a turf war between various hotels in Lucan.
    That crowd in in the Springfield were always a rough crowd and that Finnstown mob are ruthless too.

    The alarm was raised at about 8.40pm on Saturday night in a 999 call to gardai. Gardai and the army's Explosive Ordinance Disposal unit arrived a short time afterwards and ordered that the hotel be evacuated at around 10.30pm.
    The guests were forced to remain outside the premises until after the viable device was declared safe at 3.45am yesterday


    Over 5 hours before the guests were allowed back in?
    Sounds like typical check-in or service waiting times in Finnstown to be honest.


  • #80
    delthedriver
    Closed Accounts Posts: 4,955 ✭✭✭delthedriver


    NipNip wrote: »
    Martin McGuinness was on tv a few days ago, celebrating the advancement in NI, which meant that NI was now included on the Giro d'Italia. Some people don't want to hear such positivity.



    Is that the same Martin McGuinness who suggested the possibility of Sinn Fein withdrawing their support for PSNI when Adams was being questioned recently ?


  • #81
    nelly17
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,209 ✭✭✭nelly17


    harry Bailey esq wrote: »
    note to self. Always be nice to Amalgam on boards :):)

    I was more thinking "knock Knock, Hello, NSA mind if we come in?"


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  • #82
    NipNip
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 656 ✭✭✭NipNip


    delthedriver wrote: »
    Is that the same Martin McGuinness who suggested the possibility of Sinn Fein withdrawing their support for PSNI when Adams was being questioned recently ?

    Not sure. It was a fella who looked fierce like him anyway.. ;)


  • #83
    Little CuChulainn
    Closed Accounts Posts: 7,624 ✭✭✭Little CuChulainn


    NipNip wrote: »
    Not sure. It was a fella who looked fierce like him anyway.. ;)

    Nothing says no to political involvement in policing like one of the main parties threatening to withdraw their political support when policing affects them. The funny thing is I doubt any of them see the hypocrisy.


  • #84
    Banjo String
    Closed Accounts Posts: 14,380 ✭✭✭✭Banjo String


    Jesus. You'd have to hand it to the Indo. Some sensationalist reporting here.

    Yesterday's 40 pound milk churn has now evolved into a 66pound Beer keg.

    The target has shifted from the giro to somewhere in the north.

    A headline grabbing "Provisional IRA activist linked to hotel bomb find". Which would imply the man in question was still ACTIVIST in the provisional IRA :rolleyes:

    This then becomes "a possible link between a former member of the PIRA"

    Yet finishes the article with this.
    Meanwhile, as a result of follow-up inquiries, gardai detained a man in his 50s and he was taken to Lucan garda station for questioning.

    Officers confirmed that the man was not suspected of being linked to the bomb . However, a number of items were taken from an apartment and these were being forensically examined.

    http://www.independent.ie/irish-news/provisional-ira-activist-linked-to-hotel-bomb-find-30267828.html

    Colour me suspicious.


  • #85
    P_1
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,681 ✭✭✭✭P_1


    Aye looks like the Indo jumped the shark a bit at this stage


  • #86
    harry Bailey esq
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,814 ✭✭✭harry Bailey esq


    P_1 wrote: »
    Aye looks like the Indo jumped the shark a bit at this stage

    The Indo has become a lot more downmarket in the last four years,basically they are glorified rag/tabloid now


  • #87
    My name is URL
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 25,626 ✭✭✭✭My name is URL


    Banjo String wrote: »
    Jesus. You'd have to hand it to the Indo. Some sensationalist reporting here.

    Yesterday's 40 pound milk churn has now evolved into a 66pound Beer keg.

    The target has shifted from the giro to somewhere in the north.

    A headline grabbing "Provisional IRA activist linked to hotel bomb find". Which would imply the man in question was still ACTIVIST in the provisional IRA :rolleyes:

    This then becomes "a possible link between a former member of the PIRA"

    Yet finishes the article with this.



    http://www.independent.ie/irish-news/provisional-ira-activist-linked-to-hotel-bomb-find-30267828.html

    Colour me suspicious.

    Twats.. How many foreigners would have read or heard about their fabricated story and were put off returning to Dublin as a result?

    The way they instantly assumed and claimed that the target was the Giro d'Italia is simply disgusting. Shit like that does as much damage to a country's reputation than the finding of a device might.

    Wouldn't expect anything more from that scumbag Paul Williams anyway.


  • #88
    orangesoda
    Closed Accounts Posts: 1,223 ✭✭✭orangesoda


    why wouldn't they want to bomb dublin, sure it's home to all the anglo-irish in modern society. not that i agree with bombs of course


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