Manchester United Superthread 2014 mod warning #8081

Schwiiing · 11-05-2014 09:59PM

ElChe32 wrote: »

"United in Bid for Shaw"

"Gerrard - I'm Devastated"

2moreMinutes · 11-05-2014 09:59PM

Teamshadowclan wrote: »

Liverpool are about to hit their first transfer window as a Top club and could be in for a shock. Won't be easy to pick up players cheap and smaller clubs will know that they are in the driving seat when it comes to negotiations. Players will want bigger wages, agents bigger fees.

If they think 60m will be enough to strengthen and compete for the title again next season, they are in for a nasty shock.

When they finished second in 2009, they went and brought in Glen Johnson, Krygiakus (ugh, I've butchered that) and the massive success that was Aquilani, spending the guts of ~£50m in the process.

Its one thing sitting at the top table and being in the market for the infamous top top players but its an entirely different thing being able to both target and attract them on what will no doubt be a fairly restricted budget. Even though being flippant about the money involved in football does disgust me, I'd doubt 60m will make much of a significant difference when they're competing on so many fronts next year.

In the same way, in relation to ourselves, I also doubt that anything shy of at least 100m will make too much of a significant difference to us especially when the going rate seems to be ~30m for a defender who, albeit young, English and damn bloody good, traditionally, haven't been as expensive as the guys playing further up the pitch.

brinty · 11-05-2014 10:00PM

I think Suarez will head to Madrid and Liverpool won't get a sufficient replacement. Without his 30+ goals they will struggle to reach this season's heights. With the CL they'll be stretched
Real have more than enough funds to purchase him before selling players.
Pogba (If he leaves Juve) will go to PSG.

Rubber_Soul · 11-05-2014 10:01PM

MD1990 wrote: »

http://bleacherreport.com/articles/1804288-real-madrids-eur541-million-debt-allegedly-being-hidden-by-florentino-perez

they won't be able to get Suarez unless they sell alot a few players.
They also need a CM more than a new striker.

Allegedly. And if even if it turns out to be true and Real have to go public they will have few problems attracting investment. Getting CL football greatly increases the chances of holding on to Suarez no doubt but if Real do want him and Suarez himself wants to go they'll definitely find the cash for him. It could be a moot point though as the word coming from Raiola is that Pogba is going nowhere;

”I already met with (Juve director) Marotta and we’ll meet again soon to discuss the contractual renewal. There is no rush, Pogba is happy at Juve and he wants to remain in Torino for a long time. It’s clear that for a strong player like him it’s easy that there is a market but at the moment there isn’t this intention. There isn’t a dialogue with PSG or other teams: I repeat, we’ll meet soon to extend the eventual contract. I don’t understand for what reason you in Italy continue to tie Pogba to teams others that Juve: he’ll stay at Juve where he is very happy”

Chucky the tree · 11-05-2014 10:03PM

ElChe32 wrote: »

"United in Bid for Shaw"

"Gerrard - I'm Devastated"

Two lovely headlines to end my day.

Nothing about the United match today?

Schwiiing · 11-05-2014 10:04PM

StarshipPooper wrote: »

Allegedly. And if even if it turns out to be true and Real have to go public they will have few problems attracting investment. Getting CL football greatly increases the chances of holding on to Suarez no doubt but if Real do want him and Suarez himself wants to go they'll definitely find the cash for him. It could be a moot point though as the word coming from Raiola is that Pogba is going nowhere;

30m will dislodge Pogba. They got him for nothing and they aint exactly flush.

tallaghtmick · 11-05-2014 10:06PM

LOL at Real not being able to afford Suarez and Pogba....

Arrivals
Gareth Bale

Spurs 80.080.000 £
Isco

Málaga CF 26.400.000 £
Asier Illarramendi

Real Sociedad 26.400.000 £
Daniel Carvajal

Bayer 04 5.720.000 £
Casemiro

São Paulo 5.280.000 £

MD1990 · 11-05-2014 10:09PM

Schwiiing wrote: »

30m will dislodge Pogba. They got him for nothing and they aint exactly flush.

He won the golden boy best u21 player in the world.He will cost at least 40m probably 50-60.PSG paid 45m for Lucas Moura in 2012 so Pogba will cost more.Juventus are the only club in Italy to profit from revenue as they are the only club in Italy to own there own stadium.They have decent money.

Rubber_Soul · 11-05-2014 10:09PM

Schwiiing wrote: »

30m will dislodge Pogba. They got him for nothing and they aint exactly flush.

We'll see, I doubt it though. At least this Summer anyway.

Edit: No chance €30m will do it.

Larry Wildman · 11-05-2014 10:14PM

Hi Folks

First time poster so please take it easy with me...

My God what a season. I was vehemently opposed to Moyes' appointment but thankfully that's now water under the bridge.

Chronic underspending in key areas over recent years has also caught up with us.

I welcome this Shaw stuff and I'd welcome Van Gaal with open arms.

Some people crave wing play but personally I think that it may have had its day. With two in the middle you just get killed and with only one up top the guy just gets isolated. Maybe we need to look to the fullbacks for the width.

With that in mind I'd be very keen on Seamus Coleman. With him and Shaw we'd be on the pig's back.

Midfield wise I know that Kroos etc seem to be top of most people's lists but I'd be looking to move heaven and earth to get Vidal from Juve.

Long post I know (apologies) but there's a lot to talk about.

Not least how Rooney, RVP, Mata and Kagawa are supposed to play together!

Thanks.

Kerrydude1981 · 11-05-2014 10:16PM

Goodbye 2013/14

You wont be missed.

Cantona's Collars · 11-05-2014 10:18PM

Lord TSC · 11-05-2014 10:19PM

Ashley Cole has apparently retired from International Football.

Guessing he got the heads up he won't be going to the WC, so presumably our boy Shaw is

Get the deal done before the WC then

brinty · 11-05-2014 10:20PM

tallaghtmick wrote: »

LOL at Real not being able to afford Suarez and Pogba....

Arrivals
Gareth Bale Spurs 80.080.000 £
Isco Málaga CF 26.400.000 £
Asier Illarramendi Real Sociedad 26.400.000 £
Daniel Carvajal Bayer 04 5.720.000 £
Casemiro São Paulo 5.280.000 £

Don't forget 2009
Ronaldo 80m
Kaka 55m
Broke the world transfer record twice
and got in a good few more that summer
Xabi Alonso 30m
Karim Benzema 30m
Raul Albiol 13m

Real can and will spend whatever they want..

Cantona's Collars · 11-05-2014 10:25PM

Teamshadowclan wrote: »

Ashley Cole has apparently retired from International Football.

Guessing he got the heads up he won't be going to the WC, so presumably our boy Shaw is Get the deal done before the WC then

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2625289/Roys-boys-Brazil-Ashley-Cole-Manchester-Michael-Carrick-NOT-join-Englands-World-Cup-squad.html

duffman13 · 11-05-2014 10:26PM

Teamshadowclan wrote: »

Ashley Cole has apparently retired from International Football.

Guessing he got the heads up he won't be going to the WC, so presumably our boy Shaw is Get the deal done before the WC then

Going by twitter Cole said Shaw and Baines are in the squad. He also said he agreed it was the right thing. Fair play for taking it on the chin

Chagan · 11-05-2014 10:26PM

Teamshadowclan wrote: »

Ashley Cole has apparently retired from International Football.

Guessing he got the heads up he won't be going to the WC, so presumably our boy Shaw is Get the deal done before the WC then

Saw that on Sky News alright while I was getting my snack box. Thought as it was scrolling across that it was going to say he had retired altogether.

Apparently he was offered a spot on the standby list but turned it down.

Shaw and Baines it is so. The one we wanted last summer and one we're going to get this summer.

homerjay2005 · 11-05-2014 10:27PM

Vinz Mesrine wrote: »

Imo he's irreplaceable.

disagree. for the money they would get, they could easily get a Cavani or his like and still have money left over for a top class winger to add some more dimension to their attacking play. easier said than done of course, but if they do their homework it is possible.

the remainder of their budget then could go on defenders.

Suarez had a great season and all goals count, but to be deemed irreplacable his big game record needs to improve...it was poor especially towards the last 3 months of the season.. granted he scored some goals against Everton, Spurs and United but those were games they won 4-0, 4-0, 3-0 and liverpool were in cruise control when he scored them.

here was some stats they had on sky last week.

he failed to score in all 6 games against the top 4.
almost half his goals (45%) came against the bottom 5 teams.
if you take away all his goals against the top 10, Liverpool would have still finished 3rd. (-4 points)
24 of his 31 goals came against the teams which have stoke as the highest placed team.

those arent stats of somebody irreplaceable.

11-05-2014 10:28PM

Whatsisname wrote: »

Just realised United have bid £27million for a man I'm 6 months older than, I feel like a useless pack of **** right now :pac:

I felt something similar when Norman Whiteside burst on the scene back in 1982, I am the same age as him!

Rubber_Soul · 11-05-2014 10:29PM

Teamshadowclan wrote: »

Ashley Cole has apparently retired from International Football.

Guessing he got the heads up he won't be going to the WC, so presumably our boy Shaw is Get the deal done before the WC then

He was pretty classy about it all on twitter.

https://twitter.com/TheRealAC3

Larry Wildman · 11-05-2014 10:29PM

My wish list for what it's worth:

Luke Shaw
Seamus Coleman
Arturo Vidal
AN Other centre half
AN Other midfielder

I'm convinced that we need to play Phil Jones at centre half consistently in order to see the best of him. The John O'Shea-esque "play him anywhere" stuff has stifled his career bigtime. Phil Jones would absolutely be one of my starting centre halves. He is Tony Adams and John Terry's heir (without the ancillary stuff!).

Cantona's Collars · 11-05-2014 10:30PM

StarshipPooper wrote: »

He was pretty classy about it all on twitter.

https://twitter.com/TheRealAC3

City win the league and Ashley Cole plus United's bid for Shaw soon overtake them in the headlines.

Mr.Prodston · 11-05-2014 10:31PM

Juan Mata plays for United

Just saw the free-kick there, and at least we have that positive to come out of the season.

Cantona's Collars · 11-05-2014 10:34PM

Mr.Prodston wrote: »

Juan Mata plays for United

Just saw the free-kick there, and at least we have that positive to come out of the season.

Yet we still have a few who complain: "no pace".Speed of thought is just as important,look at Scholes.

Valencia has pace to spare and can't cross a ball.

Larry Wildman · 11-05-2014 10:35PM

Is this "Nani leaving for £5m" stuff true?

That would be utterly insane. He's only just signed a new contract, he's a genuine game changer, he hasn't really had a fair crack of the whip in recent years and he's still reasonably young and high profile internationally.

If United are gonna sell him, surely £12m is more realistic?

I'd keep him and see how he goes (hopefully) under Van Gaal.

With the way Van Gaal works with players and transforms them, guys that buy into his theories could flourish. Nani's a prime candidate.

Schwiiing · 11-05-2014 10:35PM

Shaw Coleman Khedira Song wouldnt be a bad summer. Sneaky bid for Hummels or Di Maria maybe.

Hidalgo · 11-05-2014 10:40PM

zerks wrote: »

City win the league and Ashley Cole plus United's bid for Shaw soon overtake them in the headlines.

I'm sure that will really bother City :cool:

Copper_pipe · 11-05-2014 10:40PM

Howard Nurse ‏@howardnurse 23s
#MUFC apparently keen to sign Luke Shaw from Southampton and get business done before World Cup. Van Gaal could happen on Wednesday.

Lord TSC · 11-05-2014 10:40PM

Larry Wildman wrote: »

Is this "Nani leaving for £5m" stuff true?

That would be utterly insane. He's only just signed a new contract, he's a genuine game changer, he hasn't really had a fair crack of the whip in recent years and he's still reasonably young and high profile internationally.

Barely played in two years
Hasn't played well when he has played in that time
Club wants rid of him
Injury prone
Likely wants high wages

No club will pay big for him. The new contract ensures he doesn't walk on a free but people need to beace themselves for a low transfer fee here.

Cantona's Collars · 11-05-2014 10:43PM

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=23U8SB4FH7c

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