Ireland in top 10 of world education systems

CrazyRabbit · 08-05-2014 10:12PM

They way almost all schools teach is fundamentally flawed. So being good in a generally bad system is nothing to be proud of.

Have a look:
http://www.ted.com/talks/ken_robinson_says_schools_kill_creativity
http://www.ted.com/talks/ken_robinson_changing_education_paradigms
http://www.ted.com/talks/ken_robinson_how_to_escape_education_s_death_valley#t-772

fuzzydunlop85 · 08-05-2014 10:40PM

Having worked in Korea for four years in their public schools I'm fairly sceptical about the credentials of this list.

Sheldons Brain · 08-05-2014 10:54PM

Surely education is mostly provided by those nasty public sector people and so bad by definition?

cassid · 08-05-2014 11:18PM

Paddy Cow wrote: »

Did the cat walk across your keyboard?

Had a mad day, but God that made me laugh out loud- thank you:)

Sh1tbag OToole · 09-05-2014 01:03AM

Ich bin eine Komodo

ryan101 · 09-05-2014 01:05AM

Jonny7 wrote: »

TOP 20 EDUCATION SYSTEMS

1. South Korea
2. Japan
3. Singapore
4. Hong Kong
5. Finland
6. UK
7. Canada
8. Netherlands
9. Ireland
10. Poland
11. Denmark
12. Germany
13. Russia
14. United States
15. Australia
16. New Zealand
17. Israel
18. Belgium
19. Czech Republic
20. Switzerland

http://www.bbc.com/news/business-27314075

we done good

I don't know who managed to bluff them, but well done.

Seaneh · 09-05-2014 01:12AM

Da Shins Kelly wrote: »

Having been through the Irish education system and studied abroad, I am not shocked at all. We're streets ahead of plenty of European countries.

I'd agree with this.

One of my best friends is an English teacher in an private prep-school in southern England, only the "best" students from the area are accepted (so long as daddy can foot the bill) something like 90% of their A-Level students end up in top tier colleges in England.

Before she moved to England she taught junior cert level English in a public school in Ireland

It is of her opinion that her students in Ireland were smarter and more proficient students of English than her A-Level students in the UK.

c_man · 09-05-2014 01:13AM

Diego Simeone wrote: »

I'm not surprised. Most people don't like positive news, they'd rather have a moan.

Damn right, OOOWWWW!!!!

Da Shins Kelly · 09-05-2014 05:20PM

vamos! wrote: »

Quite a few of my students go on exchange in France or Germany. Every single one comes back shocked at how little work was done in the schools. The Spanish teacher has said the same is true for Spain. I'm sure there are plenty of positive features of education abroad and there are serious flaws in our secondary system but there are also excellent aspects, which the media and R Quinn discredit at every possible opportunity. Will Ireland be anywhere near top of the list after the new Junior Cert is released and the population is dumbed down? I doubt it.

The Spanish system is brutal. They're about a generation behind when it comes to technology and I heard some absolutely shocking stuff from lecturers in university over there. Heard the same from Italy and France too. The only countries I've heard to be quite good in Europe are the Scandinavian countries and the UK.

Hotale.com · 09-05-2014 05:24PM

Da Shins Kelly wrote: »

The Spanish system is brutal. They're about a generation behind when it comes to technology and I heard some absolutely shocking stuff from lecturers in university over there. Heard the same from Italy and France too. The only countries I've heard to be quite good in Europe are the Scandinavian countries and the UK.

UK? Sounds like a joke from what I've heard, I've cousins there whose maths levels are at about the same level as Junior Cert pass (I know maths isn't for everyone but it is important). It's also ridiculously narrow past primary school. They do like 3 subjects for the GCSE don't they?

Paddy Cow · 09-05-2014 05:27PM

Hotale.com wrote: »

UK? Sounds like a joke from what I've heard, I've cousins there whose maths levels are at about the same level as Junior Cert pass (I know maths isn't for everyone but it is important). It's also ridiculously narrow past primary school. They do like 3 subjects for the GCSE don't they?

They do up to ten for GCSE and around 3 for A-level. They also leave secondary school after GCSE and go to college for A-level. Lots of them don't do the college part. It's very rare in Ireland to find someone who hasn't done the Leaving Cert. I only know one person.

Here we interchange college and university, which caused me confusion when I first moved to London. Anytime someone said college, I thought they meant university but they were referring to what is basically still secondary school.

Fratton Fred · 09-05-2014 05:28PM

Paddy Cow wrote: »

They do up to ten for GCSE and around 3 for A-level. They also leave secondary school after GCSE and go to college for A-level. Lots of them don't do the college part. It's very rare in Ireland to find someone who hasn't done the Leaving Cert. I only know one person.

That's changing I believe.

Paddy Cow · 09-05-2014 05:29PM

Fratton Fred wrote: »

That's changing I believe.

Changing that A-level will be done in the same school as GCSE's? I think it would be a good idea and more would probably do A-levels.

Fratton Fred · 09-05-2014 05:32PM

Paddy Cow wrote: »

Changing that A-level will be done in the same school as GCSE's? I think it would be a good idea and more would probably do A-levels.

No, the school leaving age. A lot of schools already do sixth form, which is A levels. The norm is to take four (or it was in my day).

College is usually for specialist subjects.

Ireland in top 10 of world education systems

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