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Woman uploads abortion video - goes viral

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  • #62
    padd b1975
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,863 ✭✭✭✭padd b1975


    Boombastic wrote: »
    how close to reality is it though? are abortions full of 'special moments' and 'good feelings'?

    Ask the dead foetus.


  • #63
    I Heart Internet
    Closed Accounts Posts: 4,678 ✭✭✭I Heart Internet


    Calling an unborn child a parasite is akin to calling babies and toddlers vermin.

    They crawl around your nice clean house, **** and vomit everywhere, eat your food, keep you awake with their screeching and generally make life a misery.

    Perhaps I should lay down a few traps. Baited with Peppa Pig dolls.


  • #64
    eviltwin
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 17,495 ✭✭✭✭eviltwin


    I Heart Internet wrote: »
    Calling an unborn child a parasite is akin to calling babies and toddlers vermin.

    They crawl around your nice clean house, **** and vomit everywhere, eat your food, keep you awake with their screeching and generally make life a misery.

    Perhaps I should lay down a few traps. Baited with Peppa Pig dolls.

    they do all of the above and can drive you mad even when you wanted and planned them, imagine what they do to the mental state of a woman who didn't want to have that child in the first place?


  • #65
    Reiketsu
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,096 ✭✭✭Reiketsu


    I'm pro-choice but the fact she is so flippant about having an abortion doesn't sit right with me. It's still a big deal and not a decision to be taken lightly I think. Pro-life people are going to watch this and use it to prove that we think its all a bit of craic basically. Which is not the case for any pro-choice person I know.


  • #66
    Muise...
    Closed Accounts Posts: 4,512 ✭✭✭Muise...


    Wishiwasa Littlebitaller wrote: »
    Glad you find it all so amusing.

    Facetiousness aside, do you honestly feel that because a mother supplies oxygen and nutrition to a fetus, that this means the baby is somehow not a separate entity?

    Have you noticed the way women have bumps before they have babies? Good. Inside this bump is the foetus. You can't see it without technological imaging processes because you see, it is under her skin and flesh, in her womb, not yet a separate entity.


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  • #67
    Grayson
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 17,002 ✭✭✭✭Grayson


    Boombastic wrote: »
    It's this I won't bother using contraceptions because abortion is a solution brigade that bothers me. then shriek about my body my rights..

    In that article she says she was using what the catholic church would call "natural family planning"
    I found out I was pregnant in November. I had been working at the clinic for about a year. It was my first pregnancy, and, full disclosure, I hadn't been using any kind of birth control, which is crazy, I know. I’m a sex educator, and I love talking about birth control. Before this experience, hormonal birth control scared me because of complications I’d heard about from friends — gaining weight, depression, etc. So I tracked my ovulation cycle, and I didn’t have any long-term partners. I thought I was OK. But, you know, things happen. I wound up pregnant.


    See, the procedure is simple. there are no major negative health issues in having an abortion.

    What's nasty is that women are judged for not feeling guilty for having an abortion. people seem to think that it's ok to have an abortion as long as the woman feels ashamed that they needed it. If they can hum their way through it and go out and have an active day afterwards, then there's something wrong with them.


  • #68
    steddyeddy
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 27,565 ✭✭✭✭steddyeddy


    Guys I'm pro-life but I'm ashamed at some of the vile comments people throw around about unborn foetuses. They are not parasites and to call them such gives credence to the idea that pro-lifers are heartless b#stards who take the decision to abort easy.


  • #69
    [Deleted User]
    Posts: 10,222 ✭✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    eviltwin wrote: »
    they do all of the above and can drive you mad even when you wanted and planned them, imagine what they do to the mental state of a woman who didn't want to have that child in the first place?

    Yeah...the selfish ****ers :rolleyes:


  • #70
    I Heart Internet
    Closed Accounts Posts: 4,678 ✭✭✭I Heart Internet


    eviltwin wrote: »
    they do all of the above and can drive you mad even when you wanted and planned them, imagine what they do to the mental state of a woman who didn't want to have that child in the first place?

    So your answer is to kill them in the womb?


  • #71
    Grayson
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 17,002 ✭✭✭✭Grayson


    Reiketsu wrote: »
    I'm pro-choice but the fact she is so flippant about having an abortion doesn't sit right with me. It's still a big deal and not a decision to be taken lightly I think. Pro-life people are going to watch this and use it to prove that we think its all a bit of craic basically. Which is not the case for any pro-choice person I know.

    Why is it a big deal?

    I Heart Internet wrote: »
    Calling an unborn child a parasite is akin to calling babies and toddlers vermin.

    They crawl around your nice clean house, **** and vomit everywhere, eat your food, keep you awake with their screeching and generally make life a misery.

    Perhaps I should lay down a few traps. Baited with Peppa Pig dolls.

    You never saw my niece when she was having a tantrum. Vermin is nice. SPAWN OF SATAN would be a better description. ;)


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  • #72
    eviltwin
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 17,495 ✭✭✭✭eviltwin


    I Heart Internet wrote: »
    So your answer is to kill them in the womb?

    If that is what the woman decides I have no issue with that. What would you suggest?


  • #73
    Muise...
    Closed Accounts Posts: 4,512 ✭✭✭Muise...


    Grayson wrote: »
    In that article she says she was using what the catholic church would call "natural family planning"




    See, the procedure is simple. there are no major negative health issues in having an abortion.

    What's nasty is that women are judged for not feeling guilty for having an abortion. people seem to think that it's ok to have an abortion as long as the woman feels ashamed that they needed it. If they can hum their way through it and go out and have an active day afterwards, then there's something wrong with them.

    I think some of the pro-life persuasion here would be shocked if they knew how many women they know, or have met, have met have had abortions. Not that these women would ever tell someone who is going to judge or pity them.


  • #74
    I Heart Internet
    Closed Accounts Posts: 4,678 ✭✭✭I Heart Internet


    Muise... wrote: »
    Have you noticed the way women have bumps before they have babies? Good. Inside this bump is the foetus. You can't see it without technological imaging processes because you see, it is under her skin and flesh, in her womb, not yet a separate entity.

    I really don't think you'd find a competent doctor who would assert that a mother and feotus were the same entity. They simply aren't.


  • #75
    Muise...
    Closed Accounts Posts: 4,512 ✭✭✭Muise...


    padd b1975 wrote: »
    Ask the dead foetus.

    It won't answer. It's dead.


  • #76
    [Deleted User]
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    I Heart Internet wrote: »
    So your answer is to kill them in the womb?

    Obviously, I mean, what other option is there!?!


  • #77
    Boombastic
    Closed Accounts Posts: 6,496 ✭✭✭Boombastic


    Grayson wrote: »
    In that article she says she was using what the catholic church would call "natural family planning"




    See, the procedure is simple. there are no major negative health issues in having an abortion.

    What's nasty is that women are judged for not feeling guilty for having an abortion. people seem to think that it's ok to have an abortion as long as the woman feels ashamed that they needed it. If they can hum their way through it and go out and have an active day afterwards, then there's something wrong with them.

    I don't think the Catholic church advocate multiple partners with this method. And she doesn't have too much respect for her body if she's willing to risk std's.

    isn't it a psychopath that detaches emotion?


  • #78
    I Heart Internet
    Closed Accounts Posts: 4,678 ✭✭✭I Heart Internet


    eviltwin wrote: »
    If that is what the woman decides I have no issue with that. What would you suggest?

    Not killing them.


  • #79
    c_man
    Closed Accounts Posts: 4,436 ✭✭✭c_man


    Woman uploads abortion video - goes viral

    I prefer Gangnam style


  • #80
    padd b1975
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,863 ✭✭✭✭padd b1975


    Muise... wrote: »
    It won't answer. It's dead.

    It sure is.


  • #81
    Muise...
    Closed Accounts Posts: 4,512 ✭✭✭Muise...


    I Heart Internet wrote: »
    I really don't think you'd find a competent doctor who would assert that a mother and feotus were the same entity. They simply aren't.

    One is inside the other. We're not marsupials.


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  • #82
    893bet
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 10,007 ✭✭✭✭893bet


    That video made me very uncomfortable.


  • #83
    Sarky
    Closed Accounts Posts: 31,967 ✭✭✭✭Sarky


    Good for her.


  • #84
    Penny Tration
    Closed Accounts Posts: 12,687 ✭✭✭✭Penny Tration


    I Heart Internet wrote: »
    Not killing them.

    This is where pro-life and pro-choice disagree.

    Pro-choice believe a woman should have full bodily integrity, and the choice to not be forced to carry a foetus against her will.

    Pro-life believe the foetus is a baby, and has the right to live, regardless of what the woman carrying it believes.

    Ultimately, we will not agree. Seems a bit pointless that it's the same handful of posters (myself included) arguing it in two different threads.


  • #85
    eviltwin
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 17,495 ✭✭✭✭eviltwin


    I Heart Internet wrote: »
    Not killing them.

    Easy to say when its not you who has to take on the responsibility of taking care of them for the next 18+ years.


  • #86
    Grayson
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 17,002 ✭✭✭✭Grayson


    Boombastic wrote: »
    I don't think the Catholic church advocate multiple partners with this method. And she doesn't have too much respect for her body if she's willing to risk std's.

    isn't it a psychopath that detaches emotion?

    Are you saying that a woman who has an abortion but doesn't feel shame or some other emotion besides relief is a psychopath?


  • #87
    I Heart Internet
    Closed Accounts Posts: 4,678 ✭✭✭I Heart Internet


    Muise... wrote: »
    One is inside the other. We're not marsupials.

    One being inside the other does not mean they are the same entity. Seriously, no doctor or person familiar with rudimentary biology will tell you that.


  • #88
    Wishiwasa Littlebitaller
    Closed Accounts Posts: 1,337 ✭✭✭Wishiwasa Littlebitaller


    green_screen wrote: »
    Do you understand what a parasite is?

    Yes, but you clearly don't:
    Parasitism is a non-mutual symbiotic relationship between species, where one species, the parasite, benefits at the expense of the other, the host.

    Unless you are suggesting the woman in question here was impregnated by another species.

    Someone get Sigourney Weaver on the phone.


  • #89
    I Heart Internet
    Closed Accounts Posts: 4,678 ✭✭✭I Heart Internet


    green_screen wrote: »
    This is where pro-life and pro-choice disagree.

    Pro-choice believe a woman should have full bodily integrity, and the choice to not be forced to carry a foetus against her will.

    Pro-life believe the foetus is a baby, and has the right to live, regardless of what the woman carrying it believes.

    Ultimately, we will not agree. Seems a bit pointless that it's the same handful of posters (myself included) arguing it in two different threads.

    Fair play green_screen. You're right.

    We're only banging our mutual heads against walls here.

    But, heh, it's an important issue.....

    Have a nice weekend.


  • #90
    Muise...
    Closed Accounts Posts: 4,512 ✭✭✭Muise...


    I Heart Internet wrote: »
    One being inside the other does not mean they are the same entity. Seriously, no doctor or person familiar with rudimentary biology will tell you that.

    They are not separate until birth. I wasn't arguing entities.


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  • #91
    dark crystal
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,962 ✭✭✭✭dark crystal


    Wait...so she's a sex educator and loves talking about contraception, but yet deems it fine and dandy to sleep with multiple partners without using protection?

    She most certainly should not be educating anyone with that attitude.


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