Your driving pet hates

blastman · 07-05-2014 04:04PM

I indicated on a roundabout this morning that I was leaving at the next exit and someone drove straight out in front of me from the preceding exit, which was nice.

CarrickMcJoe · 07-05-2014 04:09PM

Bugs me when the person in front of you, having filled up with petrol, instead as moving forward if there's space, locks their car, goes to atm to get cash, then heads to the deli before paying for the juice.

xabi · 07-05-2014 04:13PM

blastman wrote: »

I indicated on a roundabout this morning that I was leaving at the next exit and someone drove straight out in front of me from the preceding exit, which was nice.

Sounds like you indicated early, i never trust an indicator.

filbert the fox · 07-05-2014 04:20PM

hoodie6029 wrote: »

And I forgot people who don't use their handbrake when stopped in traffic. Thanks for blinding me with your lights.

Lights ? that's a laugh, A friend of mine came over from South Africa a few years ago and asked was it compulsory to drive with only one brake light?

Pet hate: The double whammy:
Useless idiots who can't see an obvious manoeuvre who are also deaf to the countless honking behind them.....:eek:

xabi · 07-05-2014 04:27PM

filbert the fox wrote: »

Lights ? that's a laugh, A friend of mine came over from South Africa a few years ago and asked was it compulsory to drive with only one brake light?

Pet hate: The double whammy:
Useless idiots who can't see an obvious manoeuvre who are also deaf to the countless honking behind them.....:eek:

Some crazy driving there, something like 13,000 deaths / year on the roads.

eviltimeban · 07-05-2014 04:37PM

People who don't let you out - I often have to an awkward u-turn outside my kid's creche, and the amount of people who see you sitting in the middle of the road, halfway across, indicators on, a hopeful look on your face... and they keep going. Its right at a set of lights as well and often they are red, leaving me totally stuck in the middle of the road, mid-u turn. Just let me out you ba*tard! Its not going upset your journey that much is it?

I have nothing against BMW per se, but I would never buy one now - most of the rudest drivers I've ever come across are BMW drivers. Not Merc, not Audi, not Lexus - BMW.

The 'slowing down to let someone out' thing has really become common now, it is worrying as it is so dangerous. Its fine if you are going crawling in rush hour traffic, or stopped, to let someone out, but jamming on the brakes on a straight road to let a car out? Madness.

People who drift over lanes - are you switching? No! Just too lazy to steer properly.

Hot girls in cars - very distracting!

OldMrBrennan83 · 07-05-2014 04:55PM

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eviltimeban · 07-05-2014 04:57PM

Well in a lot of cases I'm forced to drive down the road and into an estate and back around again. But yes, I see your point. I don't *expect* anyone to let me out, it just might be *nice* every now and again.

ianobrien · 07-05-2014 05:22PM

I had one today. I was at a set of traffic lights top of the queue in the left hand lane (arrowed for straight on). The lights were red so I was sitting there, watching the lights. The main red light stayed on but a green arrow for straight on came on. I saw the green arrow, checked that it was the straight on, pressed the clutch, engaged first and then the horn started behind. It was hardly one second after the green light and I hadn't the handbrake dropped yet!

I looked in the mirror to see a driver behind shaking his fist at me! So, I continued to proceed across the junction (after checking that there was nobody coming from the other direction breaking the red light) and half was across he was blowing at me again! Then again, the car that was top of the queue in the right hand lane was level with me across the junction. I accelerated up to the speed limit on a relatively light throttle. The "blower" eventually overtook, shaking his head, in his 15 year old Corsa, spewing oil smoke when passed.

Given the amount of red light runners here in this country, if I'm top of the queue and the light goes green I always check that there is no red light runner. I had a very close call with this a few years ago and now I always check.

FunLover18 · 07-05-2014 05:32PM

simplybam wrote: »

> muppets slowing down when approaching a GREEN light

When I was learning to drive I was told that if I'm approaching a junction and I can see clearly that the lights have been green for some time than it's best to slow down as the chances are they will turn red. That said I never slow to a crawl but to a safe speed whereby if they do change I can come to smooth safe stop.

Henry Ford III wrote: »

Lane hoggers and undertakers.

I try not to but I occasionally undertake. The N7 is a nightmare for lane hoggers and the driving lane is usually completely empty. If I'm doing the speed limit in the driving lane and I happen to pass a load of numpties doing 80 in the overtaking I'm not going to feel bad. Most of the time however I will go out of my way to overtake.

Lack of indicators is the worst offence, drives me up the ****ing wall. There so easy to use, and require practically no effort/energy whatsoever.

People who speed also I annoys me. I don't understand it. I'm doing 120 on a motor way and some f*cker flies by, the mind boggles.

Only today I was driving behind a woman on the M6 who slowed down while overtaking trucks. It was raining heavily and there was a lot of water spray but if you don't feel comfortable overtaking during heavy rain don't it. She didn't even have to break the limit to overtake.

ianobrien · 07-05-2014 05:35PM

eviltimeban wrote: »

People who don't let you out - I often have to an awkward u-turn outside my kid's creche, and the amount of people who see you sitting in the middle of the road, halfway across, indicators on, a hopeful look on your face... and they keep going. Its right at a set of lights as well and often they are red, leaving me totally stuck in the middle of the road, mid-u turn. Just let me out you ba*tard! Its not going upset your journey that much is it?

Hang on a sec, do you actually expect me to stop when I have possession of the lane and you just pull out and expect me to stop? If that's the case and there is an accident it's your fault as you changed lanes without checking that it was safe (entered a carrageway they'd call it). Also, it's bloody rude and arrogant to expect that all traffic that has the right of way should stop to allow you to do a u-turn. Do the correct thing and wait until it's clear!

I unfortunately have seen the aftermath of an accident when somebody pulled out expecting the other lane to leave him out. A large SUV had to brake heavily on the wet road and swerve. Unfortunately the trailer behind the 4x4 (with over a tonne of gravel) didn't stop, skidded on the wet road and collected the car. Nobody was seriously injured (thankfully) but the car was a write-off (and the road was closed for almost an hour while the gravel was picked up).

paddyland · 07-05-2014 08:28PM

eviltimeban wrote: »

People who don't let you out - I often have to an awkward u-turn outside my kid's creche, and the amount of people who see you sitting in the middle of the road, halfway across, indicators on, a hopeful look on your face... and they keep going. Its right at a set of lights as well and often they are red, leaving me totally stuck in the middle of the road, mid-u turn. Just let me out you ba*tard! Its not going upset your journey that much is it?

Is this a joke?

Public enemy number one - women outside creches, driving SUVs three times bigger than they can handle, expecting priority to park where they wish, u-turn where they wish, and causing obstruction, delay and danger everywhere they go. They leave a trail of destruction behind them.

There is no way in hell I am giving way to you, and will happily see you stuck trying to u-turn across the neck of a busy traffic light junction, where people with children are trying to cross, and there is just too much congestion.

I give way to people who I think are paying attention to what they are doing, and are not causing undue obstruction to others around them. I do not give way to idiots.

dr.fuzzenstein · 07-05-2014 10:22PM

^^^^^
I think someone needs a hug.
What I hate is the sort of self entitled "its MY lane, I'm NOT letting you out! I have right if way! Waaaahhhh!"
Chillax, dude, you'll live longer.
And every now and then letting people out does not actually cost you anything, its like being nice and stuff, you know doing stuff for no reason and its free!

ianobrien · 07-05-2014 10:36PM

dr.fuzzenstein wrote: »

^^^^^
I think someone needs a hug.
What I hate is the sort of self entitled "its MY lane, I'm NOT letting you out! I have right if way! Waaaahhhh!"
Chillax, dude, you'll live longer.
And every now and then letting people out does not actually cost you anything, its like being nice and stuff, you know doing stuff for no reason and its free!

If I'm stopped in traffic I'll probably let you out. If I'm moving you can bloody wait!

paddyland · 07-05-2014 11:14PM

dr.fuzzenstein wrote: »

^^^^^
I think someone needs a hug.
What I hate is the sort of self entitled "its MY lane, I'm NOT letting you out! I have right if way! Waaaahhhh!"
Chillax, dude, you'll live longer.
And every now and then letting people out does not actually cost you anything, its like being nice and stuff, you know doing stuff for no reason and its free!

My point is that outside of schools and creches at handover time, roads become choked to a complete stop by irresponsible stopping, parking, waiting, pulling in and out, u-turning, and general careless and ignorant behaviour.

There is nothing wrong with things slowing down a bit. But by stopping to let someone u-turn on a busy traffic light junction, to take that example, you are sending the signal that that is acceptable, and giving an example to the next car to try the same thing. Those drivers will then go on to do that every time they drive there. The poster earlier admits to doing it regularly.

Every time you stop to let someone do something on the road that is outside of acceptable or safe norms, you are condoning it, and encouraging it's continuance. I am generally very courteous on the road, and I have a very good sense of the effect things have on the overall flow of traffic. But I will not, on a point of principle, give way to drivers doing outrageously stupid things on a regular and ongoing basis.

visual · 08-05-2014 06:23AM

Seen a woman in a large SUV on longmile road do a U turn out side the school to drop her brats knock down 3 other kids as she was preoccupied watching for a break in traffic and didn't notice the stream of school kids crossing behind her.

U turns aren't a good idea even when legal

eviltimeban · 08-05-2014 09:09AM

ianobrien wrote: »

If I'm stopped in traffic I'll probably let you out. If I'm moving you can bloody wait!

This is what I mean. I don't expect anyone to stop at speed to let me out. The traffic is quite slow at that part of the road and you can generally get across. But some a-holes blatantly block you, even though they are crawling along.

I agree with the school parking issue; our school issued guidelines where you can and can't park, and I always adhere to them. However daily there are people who park right up to the gate (parking on the yellow lines) or on the coach parking spot. I don't get it, are your kids going somewhere mine aren't?

(I'm a man in a small car btw, not a woman in an SUV

)

eviltimeban · 08-05-2014 09:20AM

paddyland wrote: »

busy traffic light junction

Oh, and to clarify, its not a junction - its a straight road with pedestrian lights a little down the road. The traffic is always slow on the road. Even pulling out is difficult. You can generally get across the road easily but the odd a-hole (who has "possession of the lane" :rolleyes:) will just blatantly block you. Or not do the decent thing and let you in.

dr.fuzzenstein · 08-05-2014 09:34AM

eviltimeban wrote: »

Oh, and to clarify, its not a junction - its a straight road with pedestrian lights a little down the road. The traffic is always slow on the road. Even pulling out is difficult. You can generally get across the road easily but the odd a-hole (who has "possession of the lane" :rolleyes:) will just blatantly block you. Or not do the decent thing and let you in.

My favourites:
I'm on a sideroad, waiting to join a main road. Relentless traffic, slow moving and no gap.
Finally see a gap big enough to pull out, go for it.
The "nice" driver who left the gap suddenly wakes up or gets off the phone, or both, sees me pulling out, drops it a gear and floors it.
Now driving at me at warp 9 while beeping and flashing.
I'm already in traffic and he keeps beeping and flashing me.
This has happened to me in Limerick on several occasions.
Some strange people out there...
That is along with people not letting you merge onto motorways (queue shouts of "NEVER!" and throwing of chairs).
And of course people driving at 60 km/h and blocking you from overtaking by moving out, accelerating and following you beeping and flashing for miles.
The Irish have a problem with the fact that there's other people on the road, the general feeling is "This is MY road! You're not getting on it!"

djimi · 08-05-2014 10:18AM

Chimaera wrote: »

You're obliged to stop when the light changes to amber. The purpose of the amber is to give you adequate time to come to a complete stop before it turns red.

From the RotR (p. 103):

corktina wrote: »

I agree...Amber means stop if it is safe to do so...red means stop.

Id argue that it is never safe to stop at an amber light in this country (as in actually come to a stop before the light turns red); doing so is most likely going to see you get seriously rear ended. For me its one of those situations where what is legally right is somewhat over ruled by the potential consequences.

dr.fuzzenstein · 08-05-2014 10:23AM

djimi wrote: »

Id argue that it is never safe to stop at an amber light in this country (as in actually come to a stop before the light turns red); doing so is most likely going to see you get seriously rear ended. For me its one of those situations where what is legally right is somewhat over ruled by the potential consequences.

Agreed, generally green means go, yellow means go faster. If you then jump on the brakes, bang!
I hate people who slow on green. It's like they say
"Oh please go red! I love being stuck at red lights!"
Maybe its a weird fetish I haven't heard of.

FunLover18 · 08-05-2014 11:09AM

Slowing down for a green that you can see has been green for quite some time makes perfect sense. I'd rather be able to stop safely then be forced to either brake harshly and get rear ended or have to run a red at speed because I wasn't read to stop. If it stays green then no warm done I've merely cut a few seconds off my journey and that of the people behind me. I don't understand how safe driving can be a pet peeve. Would people speed up if they saw a pedestrian approaching a zebra crossing "I don't want to have to stop better speed up".

Sheldons Brain · 08-05-2014 11:15AM

djimi wrote: »

Id argue that it is never safe to stop at an amber light in this country (as in actually come to a stop before the light turns red); doing so is most likely going to see you get seriously rear ended. For me its one of those situations where what is legally right is somewhat over ruled by the potential consequences.

"never" safe would imply that there was always a car tailgating you, which is not always the case. Although clearly if some posters here were behind you it might be safer to proceed.

djimi · 08-05-2014 11:20AM

Sheldons Brain wrote: »

"never" safe would imply that there was always a car tailgating you, which is not always the case. Although clearly if some posters here were behind you it might be safer to proceed.

Okay perhaps never wasnt the right word. However Im not going to be in the habit of even considering stopping at an amber, regardless of whats behind me. Its not dangerous to run an amber light; its not like the other lights turn green when your light turns amber.

dr.fuzzenstein · 08-05-2014 11:21AM

I see no problem, see green light, maintain speed, yellow means come to a stop if safe and incidentally that is what the yellow is for.
If you hop on the brakes and come to a screeching stop as soon as you see a yellow light and you're one meter from the line, you're doing it wrong.
Come to a stop if it is safe to do so.
That means if you would have to jump on the brake with both feet and come to a smoking, sideways stop, don't.
It is quite legal to proceed.
You seem to be in a panic to accidentally run a yellow light, that is incorrect behaviour.
A lot of people here seem to have misconceptions about correct light usage.
So again from the top:

Green: Go! Now, not 5 seconds from now. If you are already going, keep going!
Yellow: If you're doing 50 km/h and are one meter from the line, keep going! It's what it's there for! If you can see it going yellow from a mile off, yes, come to a halt.
Red: Stop. Duh.

Stheno · 08-05-2014 11:22AM

people not knowing roundabout rules, had someone pull out in front of me when I was on a roundabout yesterday, had to slam on the brakes

irishmover · 08-05-2014 11:23AM

FunLover18 wrote: »

Slowing down for a green that you can see has been green for quite some time makes perfect sense. I'd rather be able to stop safely then be forced to either brake harshly and get rear ended or have to run a red at speed because I wasn't read to stop. If it stays green then no warm done I've merely cut a few seconds off my journey and that of the people behind me. I don't understand how safe driving can be a pet peeve. Would people speed up if they saw a pedestrian approaching a zebra crossing "I don't want to have to stop better speed up".

Just like someone saying on the first page 'muppets driving 10km under the speed limit' Yeh because driving slightly under the speed limit is a pet hate. Not safe or anything.

Tailgating
Unable to use an indicator (roundabouts in particular)
Speeding and weaving between traffic on a motorway.

They're my pet hates and quite often I get annoyed watching people do it!

CJhaughey · 08-05-2014 11:25AM

dr.fuzzenstein wrote: »

Green: Go! Now, not 5 seconds from now. If you are already going, keep going!
Yellow: If you're doing 50 km/h and are one meter from the line, keep going! It's what it's there for! If you can see it going yellow from a mile off, yes, come to a halt.
Red: Stop. Duh.

Seen a couple of bad T-bone accidents after people just left on green without checking that there might be a red light runner coming along.
I always check to see if there is any traffic when leaving a green, takes a second and may save you a lot of grief.

FunLover18 · 08-05-2014 11:42AM

irishmover wrote: »

Just like someone saying on the first page 'muppets driving 10km under the speed limit' Yeh because driving slightly under the speed limit is a pet hate. Not safe or anything.

There's a difference though:
Driving 10km under the limit is safe, however so is driving at the speed limit.
If you see see that a green has been so for a while on a busy junction I would hardly consider it safe driving ignore the situation and carry on as normal, it's just good observation, and again I'm not advocating slowing to a crawl. Even worse (and I'm not accusing you of this) would be speeding up in case it does go amber or red. That's just reckless. In my view people who don't take proper care approaching junctions with or without traffic lights have no right to be annoyed with people who do. That was my point but I agree that I worded it poorly.

irishmover wrote: »

Tailgating
Unable to use an indicator (roundabouts in particular)
Speeding and weaving between traffic on a motorway.

They're my pet hates and quite often I get annoyed watching people do it!

I agree with all of these

TireeTerror · 08-05-2014 11:43AM

Everyone on the M50. If I could I would press a button and kill everyone. If you want to see the most consistent examples of bad driving, its there every single day. The Traffic Core need a shake up, if they want more revenue stop and fine every single driver permanently in the middle lane. I have honestly been so close to being imprisoned by wanting to literally smash the car in front off the road for blocking, and then when I drive by eventually they are staring straight ahead, oblivious, or trolling me on purpose by ignoring my rage!!!!! AGGGGGGHHHHH even thinking about it makes me mad. I hate you all.

Your driving pet hates

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