Mc Donalds coffee

Ann22 · 06-05-2014 08:14PM

I like McDonald's coffee....and I also poured a cup of it all over myself one time..it was unbearably painful and I was shaking with the shock of it. My trousers were saturated and stuck to me. The girl was very nice..asked was I ok..to which I with much embarrassment.. replied 'yeah I'm grand. .my fault' she promptly appeared with another fresh cup and I had to sit and grit my teeth with my legs trembling and drink it then walk home in the freezing cold with sore legs and wet jeans welded to me. Was a bit raw and red but was ok. Even if it wasn't I wouldn't like to sue when I did it to myself.

06-05-2014 08:18PM

Ann22 wrote: »

I like McDonald's coffee....and I also poured a cup of it all over myself one time..it was unbearably painful and I was shaking with the shock of it. My trousers were saturated and stuck to me. The girl was very nice..asked was I ok..to which I with much embarrassment.. replied 'yeah I'm grand. .my fault' she promptly appeared with another fresh cup and I had to sit and grit my teeth with my legs trembling and drink it then walk home in the freezing cold with sore legs and wet jeans welded to me. Was a bit raw and red but was ok. Even if it wasn't I wouldn't like to sue when I did it to myself.

The lady in this case didn't want to sue in the first place either, iirc

whirlpool · 06-05-2014 08:36PM

UserNo1 wrote: »

Poor Article dose not tell the real story

LizzieJones wrote: »

The story seems to forget to mention that when she burnt herself she had put the coffee between her legs and then removed the lid. Duh.

I take it neither of you watched the video report, and instead just read the "article" below it, which was not really an article but a description of the contents of the video report. The video report went into full detail and did mention that she burned herself when she put the coffee between her legs and removed the lid.

whirlpool · 06-05-2014 08:37PM

On a another note, I thought this thread was going to be about how nice McDonald's coffee is, and I opened the thread to agree and say that I too really enjoy McDonalds coffee. I shall just wait for somebody to make that thread.

Sarah Bear · 06-05-2014 08:41PM

Hey! you guys broke my sarcasm detector

Lando Griffin · 06-05-2014 09:46PM

She should have got a McFlurry.

Sulla Felix · 06-05-2014 10:04PM

whirlpool wrote: »

I take it neither of you watched the video report, and instead just read the "article" below it, which was not really an article but a description of the contents of the video report. The video report went into full detail and did mention that she burned herself when she put the coffee between her legs and removed the lid.

Yes, and if the water hadn't been above the boiling point, that act wouldn't have left her in hospital.

It boggles my mind that some people defend the idea of serving coffee so hot that it would literally damage your mouth if you drank it.

MS.ing · 06-05-2014 10:07PM

The Backwards Man wrote: »

Anybody hear about the buck that bought a new Winnebago and put it on cruise control while he went in the back for coffee?

deery me

Shakespeare's Sister · 06-05-2014 10:12PM

The story got *reported* as her being an irresponsible and then grossly self entitled dope, but the coffee was at too high a temperature (ok she spilled it on herself but it was a temperature of 180-190 degrees rather than the standard 130-140 degrees for coffee).
She didn't want to sue but clocked up high medical bills, and the damages awarded ended up being far, far less than was reported.

radharc · 06-05-2014 11:24PM

Sulla Felix wrote: »

Yes, and if the water hadn't been above the boiling point, that act wouldn't have left her in hospital.

It boggles my mind that some people defend the idea of serving coffee so hot that it would literally damage your mouth if you drank it.

Above what boiling point?

What about tea, it is served at a far higher temperature than the coffee served in this case. Should all restaurants be banned from serving tea?

Magaggie wrote: »

The story got *reported* as her being an irresponsible and then grossly self entitled dope, but the coffee was at too high a temperature (ok she spilled it on herself but it was a temperature of 180-190 degrees rather than the standard 130-140 degrees for coffee).
She didn't want to sue but clocked up high medical bills, and the damages awarded ended up being far, far less than was reported.

Where is it standard to serve coffee at 130 degrees? Starbucks still serve their coffees in excess of 180 degrees, as do McDonalds.

Call Me Jimmy · 06-05-2014 11:52PM

Isn't it amazing that we humans can drink such hot things?!

percy212 · 07-05-2014 12:00AM

If you think the woman was over reacting check.out the photo here: http://x4mr.blogspot.ie/2012/07/hot-coffee.html

Corporations do a very good job of making people look bad.

gctest50 · 07-05-2014 12:16AM

Sulla Felix wrote: »

Yes, and if the water hadn't been above the boiling point, that act wouldn't have left her in hospital.

wtf ?

the coffee was at say 190F , water boils at 212F ( unless you're on a mountain or smth)

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biko · 07-05-2014 12:44AM

Tar.Aldarion wrote: »

Doesn't matter, the coffee should never have been as hot as it was, the burns were unreal.

Indeed, the whole point of the case was that McD was serving coffee at too high temperature (unfortunately this part is never retold).

MagicMarker · 07-05-2014 12:54AM

Tar.Aldarion wrote: »

Hot enough that initial medical fees were 20000 and the court gave her 160000 to cover medical fees alone.
If a drink is so hot that you have to be in hospital 8 days getting skin grafts (with further 2 years of treatment) then it shouldn't be that hot and was not a frivolous case.

This is America we're talking about, it costs 20k just to get an x-ray.

I mean, too hot? Really? I boil a kettle every time I make a cup of tea, no doubt if I poured a cup of boiling hot water all over myself I would do some pretty serious damage.

When I buy a coffee, it burns my hand if I don't use one of those cardboard holder things. Ya know why? Because coffee is fúcking hot.

whirlpool · 07-05-2014 01:05AM

Sulla Felix wrote: »

Yes, and if the water hadn't been above the boiling point, that act wouldn't have left her in hospital.

It boggles my mind that some people defend the idea of serving coffee so hot that it would literally damage your mouth if you drank it.

You are commenting on the story, I was commenting on the contents of the webpage. I don't see how your post is a response to my post.

whirlpool · 07-05-2014 01:09AM

MagicMarker wrote: »

This is America we're talking about, it costs 20k just to get an x-ray.

I mean, too hot? Really? I boil a kettle every time I make a cup of tea, no doubt if I poured a cup of boiling hot water all over myself I would do some pretty serious damage.

When I buy a coffee, it burns my hand if I don't use one of those cardboard holder things. Ya know why? Because coffee is fúcking hot.

But if you accidentally spilled some on yourself, you wouldn't suffer third degree burns to 16% of your body and be subjected tens of thousands of euro of hospital bills. Plenty of us have spilled coffee and tea on ourselves and we've not suffered the way this woman did. She shouldn't have suffered as much as she did simply because she spilled some hot coffee on herself, and her point was that McDonalds were at fault.

Tangatagamadda Chaddabinga Bonga Bungo · 07-05-2014 01:14AM

Trigger Happy wrote: »

And in other breaking news Gaul has fallen to the Holy Roman Empire.

Rome Total War thought me more about history in a few months than any teacher ever did.

srsly78 · 07-05-2014 01:25AM

Tangatagamadda Chaddabinga Bonga Bungo wrote: »

Rome Total War thought me more about history in a few months than any teacher ever did.

No - history fail. Medieval Total War is the game you want for the Holy Roman Empire... About 1000 years later.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Holy_Roman_Empire

biko · 07-05-2014 02:48AM

http://www.hotcoffeethemovie.com/Default.asp

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bBKRjxeQnT4

Tin Foil Hat · 07-05-2014 06:44AM

biko wrote: »

Indeed, the whole point of the case was that McD was serving coffee at too high temperature (unfortunately this part is never retold).

Coffee is brewed using water a few degrees below boiling point. That's why, to this day, if you buy one of those cardboard cups of coffee to go, it's really ****ing hot. It needs to be, because that's how you make coffee.
The trick is not to wedge it between your thighs, take the lid off, and knock it over.

radharc · 07-05-2014 09:42PM

whirlpool wrote: »

But if you accidentally spilled some on yourself, you wouldn't suffer third degree burns to 16% of your body and be subjected tens of thousands of euro of hospital bills. Plenty of us have spilled coffee and tea on ourselves and we've not suffered the way this woman did. She shouldn't have suffered as much as she did simply because she spilled some hot coffee on herself, and her point was that McDonalds were at fault.

Are you suggesting that McDonalds were somehow able to bypass the laws of science and produce coffee hotter than boiling water??

Cupcake_Crisis · 07-05-2014 10:11PM

McDonald's coffee is quite lovely! Well worth €2.

ceadaoin. · 07-05-2014 10:16PM

Tin Foil Hat wrote: »

Coffee is brewed using water a few degrees below boiling point. That's why, to this day, if you buy one of those cardboard cups of coffee to go, it's really ****ing hot. It needs to be, because that's how you make coffee.
The trick is not to wedge it between your thighs, take the lid off, and knock it over.

Yes it needs high temperatures for brewing but the coffee in McDonalds was kept at 180-190 degrees Fahrenheit even after brewing and was served to customers at that temperature. There is no need for coffee to be served so hot that it would cause third degree burns if it came into contact with skin. This woman's injuries were horrific. Your cardboard cup of coffee might be really hot but guaranteed it isn't dangerously so.

Mcdonalds were in the wrong.

Tin Foil Hat · 07-05-2014 11:05PM

ceadaoin. wrote: »

Yes it needs high temperatures for brewing but the coffee in McDonalds was kept at 180-190 degrees Fahrenheit even after brewing and was served to customers at that temperature.

Do you know how coffee to go works? Water at brewing temperature is forced through ground coffee directly into a cardboard cup which is then handed straight to the customer with a lid popped on it to prevent spillage. It is not kept anywhere. It's going to be really hot. There is no way around that unless you a) make coffee with the wrong temperature water, or b) leave the customer stand there like a prick for 15 mins while the coffee cools in a specially designated health and safety area with red lines drawn around it.

ceadaoin. wrote: »

There is no need for coffee to be served so hot that it would cause third degree burns if it came into contact with skin. This woman's injuries were horrific. Your cardboard cup of coffee might be really hot but guaranteed it isn't dangerously so.

Strange that. I had some coffee served to me recently, in a well known chain, without the lid properly secure. The lid popped off and I spilled a small amount of coffee over my wrist. The skin turned red and, over the next few days It peeled as if I was sunburned. It was bloody sore. No, I didn't have third degree burns. But that's the difference between splashing 15-20 mils of very hot liquid over my naked wrist and dumping an entire container of it between my thighs where my clothes can hold it against my skin for an extended period of time.
I guarantee you that if you measure the temperature of a coffee served from any fast food or service station chain it will be far closer to 82 degrees that it will be to 55 degrees.

ceadaoin. wrote: »

Mcdonalds were in the wrong.

Only in a world where you think adults can't be responsible for themselves and need to be treated like small children.

Shakespeare's Sister · 07-05-2014 11:17PM

People enjoy saying she was in the wrong, but the burns she sustained are proof enough that the coffee was too hot.
And she didn't want to sue. And there were hundreds of other instances of scaldings via McDonalds' coffee. They can't all have been held wrongly.

One of my biggest bugbears is abdication of personal responsibility, yet I can see that McDonalds' coffee should not have been so hot. She held the coffee cup stupidly, and that's not McD's fault, but it doesn't change that the coffee was too hot.

Any time I get a barista coffee it is never anywhere near boiling. Isn't coffee supposed to be made with non boiling water, for flavour reasons?

MagicMarker · 07-05-2014 11:21PM

Magaggie wrote: »

People enjoy saying she was in the wrong, but the burns she sustained are proof enough that the coffee was too hot.
And she didn't want to sue. And there were hundreds of other instances of scaldings via McDonalds' coffee. They can't all have been held wrongly.

One of my biggest bugbears is abdication of personal responsibility, yet I can see that McDonalds' coffee should not have been so hot. She held the coffee cup stupidly, and that's not McD's fault, but it doesn't change that the coffee was too hot.

Any time I get a barista coffee it is never anywhere near boiling. Isn't coffee supposed to be made with non boiling water, for flavour reasons?

So when I'm in work tomorrow and I spill a whole cup of tea that's just been boiled on myself can I sue my employer because the kettle boiled the water too much?

ceadaoin. · 07-05-2014 11:21PM

Tin Foil Hat wrote: »

Do you know how coffee to go works? Water at brewing temperature is forced through ground coffee directly into a cardboard cup which is then handed straight to the customer with a lid popped on it to prevent spillage. It is not kept anywhere. It's going to be really hot. There is no way around that unless you a) make coffee with the wrong temperature water, or b) leave the customer stand there like a prick for 15 mins while the coffee cools in a specially designated health and safety area with red lines drawn around it.

Strange that. I had some coffee served to me recently, in a well known chain, without the lid properly secure. The lid popped off and I spilled a small amount of coffee over my wrist. The skin turned red and, over the next few days It peeled as if I was sunburned. It was bloody sore. No, I didn't have third degree burns. But that's the difference between splashing 15-20 mils of very hot liquid over my naked wrist and dumping an entire container of it between my thighs where my clothes can hold it against my skin for an extended period of time.
I guarantee you that if you measure the temperature of a coffee served from any fast food or service station chain it will be far closer to 82 degrees that it will be to 55 degrees.

Only in a world where you think adults can't be responsible for themselves and need to be treated like small children.

Actually, in the US, if you ask for a 'coffee' you generally get a cup of filter coffee which has been brewed into a pot and is kept hot and poured as customers order it. This is the type of coffee this woman received. There was no need for it be kept at such a high temperature.

Shakespeare's Sister · 07-05-2014 11:23PM

MagicMarker wrote: »

So when I'm in work tomorrow and I spill a whole cup of tea that's just been boiled on myself can I sue my employer because the kettle boiled the water too much?

Your employer serves you tea?

ceadaoin. · 07-05-2014 11:26PM

MagicMarker wrote: »

So when I'm in work tomorrow and I spill a whole cup of tea that's just been boiled on myself can I sue my employer because the kettle boiled the water too much?

Well, it's obvious that water just boiled in a kettle is going to be extremely hot. That's the whole point of a kettle. I wouldn't expect a cup of filter coffee to be served at nearly boiling point

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