Manchester United Superthread 2014 mod warning #8081

Blatter · 07-05-2014 10:29AM

homerjay2005 wrote: »

also, anybody else find it strange that Woodward and Giggs didnt speak between saturday and last night? i mean, surely the CE and manager should be in regular contact, even over the phone every day?

I'd say they possibly did. It was easy for Giggs to say there was no contact to avoid having to give answers on questions regarding the managerial position. It's not his place or in the club's best interests to comment on it until it's officially done.

kryogen · 07-05-2014 10:29AM

I don't think its that strange tbh

Giggs is the interim manager till the end of the season, the new manager will be announced after that. Nobody at the club suggested it would be done quickly, it has just been pushed in the media that an announcement is close, over and over again.

Just relax

Headshot · 07-05-2014 10:30AM

Maybe the club are awaiting the Ancelotti situation

yabadabado · 07-05-2014 10:31AM

homerjay2005 wrote: »

also, anybody else find it strange that Woodward and Giggs didnt speak between saturday and last night? i mean, surely the CE and manager should be in regular contact, even over the phone every day?

how do you know they haven't been in contact?Can't believe everything that is said in an interview.
Also why would the CEO and manager need to be in contact everyday?Would they have business with each other every day ?At certain times of year I'm sure they are in constant contact but at other times I doubt they are.

Mitch Connor · 07-05-2014 10:35AM

homerjay2005 wrote: »

its very telling that if you look back over the last 2 or 3 days worth of posting, only about 1/3 of our squad are not on the "get rid" of list when you combine the opinions of the main posters here.

also, anybody else find it strange that Woodward and Giggs didnt speak between saturday and last night? i mean, surely the CE and manager should be in regular contact, even over the phone every day?

Was in one of the papers that this was one of Moyes' complaints too - Woodward just wasn't available to be spoken to enough.

I think Woodward has his office at Old Trafford, while obviously the managers office is at Carrington (sorry, Aon Training Complex). When Gill was in charge his office was at the training centre, near SAFs.

v3ttel · 07-05-2014 10:36AM

homerjay2005 wrote: »

also, anybody else find it strange that Woodward and Giggs didnt speak between saturday and last night?

Yes, it is very strange, especially considering that everything managers tell the media is always 100% accurate.

Your Airbag · 07-05-2014 10:36AM

homerjay2005 wrote: »

its very telling that if you look back over the last 2 or 3 days worth of posting, only about 1/3 of our squad are not on the "get rid" of list when you combine the opinions of the main posters here.

also, anybody else find it strange that Woodward and Giggs didnt speak between saturday and last night? i mean, surely the CE and manager should be in regular contact, even over the phone every day?

Getting rid of 2/3's of the talk is a crazy opinion. We have a decent squad but poor first team options.

Players that should not be playing for us next season are:
Rio
Evra
Giggs

These players need a first team replacement brought in over the summer.

Then we have players underpreforming who could be sold if a) they cant turn it around or b) a superior player becomes available in the summer

Young
Val
Clev

Lets say we got Reus, we can sell. Val for me is worth keeping, even when he is creatively poor his defesive work is valuable to have. Young for his crazy wage would be a good sell. Hopefully Januzaj will become a regular next season and give us lots more threat out wide, he needs to bulk up and get defensively better. Some people are willing to give Clev more time, fair enough. Imo if we get two new MFs there is no need to keep him. Carrick, Fletch and Fellaini are all superior squad options to backup hopefully our new CM pairing.

Welbeck and Nani should be kept 100%. Both can be important players for us. RVP, Rooney and Chico should also be kept unless they ask to leave.

Vidic leaving is a done deal so thats about 5 more to possibly join him. 6 out at a maximum.

Mikeyt086 · 07-05-2014 10:37AM

kryogen wrote: »

What would we think of Rakitic from Sevilla?

He may be on the move this summer, good age, probably got for under 20million, can play in a few midfield positions but also the all important central midfield role!

Kroos is a pipe dream really, but could Rakitic be reasonable? I think we have been linked to him before, someone to consider imo

Ideal. As close to Modric as we could get.

07-05-2014 10:39AM

Aidric wrote: »

Good news. Hopefully Ancelotti has been sounded out and expressed an interest but has to wait until the season closes.

Ancellotti would be a disaster, a manager with a track record of perseverance with older players is definitely not what's needed atm or the club will never move on.

07-05-2014 10:43AM

Headshot wrote: »

Maybe the club are awaiting the Ancelotti situation

Blue in the face saying this, a lot of undue panic about Van Gal from what I'm reading today.

Kerrydude1981 · 07-05-2014 10:45AM

Some interesting quotes from Van Gaal over the years,

http://www.manchestereveningnews.co.uk/sport/football/football-news/manchester-united-delay-manager-appointment-7082940?

TheTownie · 07-05-2014 10:45AM

Adnan's agent, Dirk De Vries;

"Minutes before Adnan signed a new deal at Manchester United, PSG offered us an astonishing deal. As Adnan was a free agent at the end of the season, the Qatari were ready to offer anything," agent Dirk De Vries told Belgian publication Sport/Voetbalmagazine. "It could have been interesting from a commercial point of view. But money has never been a deciding factor in his choice.

"I can say Adnan's the best paid youngster in the world. He earns more than [Cristiano] Ronaldo and [Lionel] Messi when they were 18. It could have been interesting from a commercial point of view. But money has never been a deciding factor in his choice."

bangkok · 07-05-2014 10:46AM

van Gaal is the united manager, just needs to be announced by the club

Backstreet Moyes · 07-05-2014 10:46AM

Just hope we don't spend the summer chasing players like last season that are never going to join. Signings like Rakitic and Carvalho are more likely and would make a huge difference to the team for next season. The club needs to rebuild next season and get back into the champions league before we can attract real world class players.

Fabregas if he comes back to England then Arsenal is far more likely.
Kroos why would he leave Bayern to join United.
Muller the same.
Reus i have some outside hope for but still unlikely.

07-05-2014 10:48AM

Liam O wrote: »

Ancellotti would be a disaster, a manager with a track record of perseverance with older players is definitely not what's needed atm or the club will never move on.

Forced perseverance when Italian football started to move into decline towards 2008 - 2009 for AC Milan. This is a flawed argument for a justification for Ancellotti not to get the job.

His record is outstanding

Lord TSC · 07-05-2014 11:00AM

What would Giggs and Woodward really have to talk about, especially if it's already been made clear to Giggs he is not a long term option? Presumably Woodward has the transfer targets based on Moyes' list and LvG's list (if he's in). Any consultation on Giggs part would have been a few weeks ago.

After that, Giggs has nothing to do with Woodward's job, and Woodward has nothing to do with the tactical, on the field decisions. There's not really much reason they'd have to talk.

It would also be crazy to sell of Fel this summer; at the very least, he's our best squad option right now, and we already need 2 midfielders without getting rid of another one. Two new CMs wont play every game.

jane82 · 07-05-2014 11:05AM

Woodward could just be avoiding giggs because he keeps asking for the job.

Seriously though it was just a way of deflecting the question id say.

tallaghtmick · 07-05-2014 11:07AM

bangkok wrote: »

van Gaal is the united manager, just needs to be announced by the club

Incredible statement without a source.

xtal191 · 07-05-2014 11:07AM

Home and away for next season

Your Airbag · 07-05-2014 11:08AM

xtal191 wrote: »

Hoe and away for next season

I hope its a fake. Both are horrible.

Mikeyt086 · 07-05-2014 11:10AM

Mark Ogden says nothing to worry about with LVG. Waiting until season is over.

I think RVP has been told whats up anyway, he seems confident:
https://vine.co/v/M6Xm3KrD5mq

Pudsy33 · 07-05-2014 11:10AM

If true, they are the worst jerseys I've ever seen the in the premier league.

alchemist33 · 07-05-2014 11:11AM

No manager announcement this week...

http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/0/football/27309106

Mikeyt086 · 07-05-2014 11:16AM

Louis_van_Gaal_en_Willem_van_H_c9db43e506af3030655bd0d1acb58c60.gif

FutureGuy · 07-05-2014 11:19AM

xtal191 wrote: »

Home and away for next season

Save us Adi das Kenobi, you are our only hope.

alchemist33 · 07-05-2014 11:23AM

xtal191 wrote: »

Home and away for next season

They look like fake jerseys you'd see at the back of a shop in Bangkok.

Gatling · 07-05-2014 11:26AM

alchemist33 wrote: »

They look like fake jerseys you'd see at the back of a shop in Bangkok.

Horrid ,

I prefer the early fakes posted earlier in the season

alchemist33 · 07-05-2014 11:29AM

Gatling wrote: »

Horrid ,

I prefer the early fakes posted earlier in the season

There was one excellent one, possibly posted by yourself, that was a deep red with plain black trim.

homerjay2005 · 07-05-2014 11:33AM

yabadabado wrote: »

how do you know they haven't been in contact?

because Ryan Giggs, our current manager said he has not spoken to Woodward since saturday evening and indeed said he pnly had a few words with him then.

i see no reason for him to lie, he could just have given the usual response " i was asked to do the job for 4 games and we have not discussed anything different bla bla bla".

it really is amazing how selective people are on here to what they think is lies. if giggs said he didnt speak to him at all then he didnt and i think this is very strange, especially considering there was a game on yesterday.

Lord TSC · 07-05-2014 11:37AM

homerjay2005 wrote: »

because Ryan Giggs, our current manager said he has not spoken to Woodward since saturday evening and indeed said he pnly had a few words with him then.

i see no reason for him to lie, he could just have given the usual response " i was asked to do the job for 4 games and we have not discussed anything different bla bla bla".

it really is amazing how selective people are on here to what they think is lies. if giggs said he didnt speak to him at all then he didnt and i think this is very strange, especially considering there was a game on yesterday.

What is it you think they should be discussing exactly?

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