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Minister Hogan

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  • #62
    Bongalongherb
    Closed Accounts Posts: 3,766 ✭✭✭Bongalongherb


    The gas thing is, is that everyone that paid the household charge, all of that money went directly to Irish water, so you already paid extra for it. And hogan says that if you don't pay for it, it will be turned down to a trickle. Well all a person has to do is purchase a water-tap metal pole that can turn it back on.


  • #63
    Banjo String
    Closed Accounts Posts: 14,380 ✭✭✭✭Banjo String


    bumper234 wrote: »
    And from your own link

    Yeah that related to the LPT, the HHC had 400k homeowners of an estimated 1.2m that hadn't paid.

    RTE reported this only last week (possibly week before)

    Now, I don't know what way percentages were taught in some schools, but in mine 800,000 out of 1.2million does not give a compliance rate of 88pc no matter how much figure massaging you do.

    They won't be able to get Revenue to collect a water charge I'd imagine.


  • #64
    Tail Docker
    Closed Accounts Posts: 2,954 ✭✭✭Tail Docker


    dxhound2005 wrote: »
    If you don't get water from the mains you don't have to pay Irish Water. But you will have to pay whatever other entity is providing the supply.

    The sky gives good long credit terms.


  • #65
    darkpagandeath
    Closed Accounts Posts: 24,461 ✭✭✭✭darkpagandeath


    Tail Docker wrote: »
    The sky gives good long credit terms.

    How long till they charge you for waste water ? Anyone thought of this


  • #66
    Bongalongherb
    Closed Accounts Posts: 3,766 ✭✭✭Bongalongherb


    darkpagandeath wrote: »
    How long till they charge you for waste water ? Anyone thought of this

    You can be assured that that one will be next. If people pay for this water charge.


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  • #67
    dj jarvis
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,485 ✭✭✭dj jarvis


    i think ill open a car wash - quids in


  • #68
    dxhound2005
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 24,787 ✭✭✭✭dxhound2005


    darkpagandeath wrote: »
    How long till they charge you for waste water ? Anyone thought of this

    Not until after the next General Election for certain. This government will be going into election mode next year and they have got all the nasty stuff out of the way. Many people here are predicting their demise however so we will see what the next lot may do. All the water companies in GB charge for sewage disposal as well as the supply of treated water.


  • #69
    shopaholic01
    Closed Accounts Posts: 4,916 ✭✭✭shopaholic01


    dj jarvis wrote: »
    i think ill open a car wash - quids in
    Throw your washing on the bonnet, wash your clothes and shower while you're at it.


  • #70
    titan18
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,080 ✭✭✭✭titan18


    Pretty much ****ed a lot of families. Families with children going to college,later secondary school years won't avail of the allowances for children and will end up paying a lot.


  • #71
    dlnv27
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 67 ✭✭dlnv27


    Just a quick question. The housing estate I'm living in has no footpath so all our water stopcocks are located in our driveways. Will Irish Water need my permission to come on to my property.


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  • #72
    Banjo String
    Closed Accounts Posts: 14,380 ✭✭✭✭Banjo String


    dlnv27 wrote: »
    Just a quick question. The housing estate I'm living in has no footpath so all our water stopcocks are located in our driveways. Will Irish Water need my permission to come on to my property.

    Yes.


  • #73
    ednwireland
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 15,026 ✭✭✭✭ednwireland


    hogans grin when he says this stuff reallly p****s me off and the fact this will be as much of a mess as th property tax, after pulling big wadge of paper work with no connection known to me between the bills.

    anyway the exemptions should be means tested and the bill should per litre dont agree at all with whats being talked about

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  • #74
    Fr. Ned
    Closed Accounts Posts: 1,589 ✭✭✭Fr. Ned


    darkpagandeath wrote: »
    How long till they charge you for waste water ? Anyone thought of this

    Apparently the super quango covers that as well. (for the moment anyway)


  • #75
    bigroad
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,331 ✭✭✭bigroad


    Some people on Joe duff today saying that in some countries they meter the water coming in and the waste water going out .I didnt hear if they get charged for the waste.Its only a matter of time i suppose.Maybe that was something to do with registaring the septic tanks .Who knows whats next.


  • #76
    emo72
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,540 ✭✭✭emo72


    Banjo String wrote: »

    They won't be able to get Revenue to collect a water charge I'd imagine.

    exactly. revenue cant dip into your wages to collect this. its not a tax. its a semi state business, charging you for a service. the reason its like this is so it can be sold in the future.

    they will have the same power as any other utility provider. except they cant cut your supply entirely. its not going to be easy for them is it?


  • #77
    Smidge
    Closed Accounts Posts: 5,541 ✭✭✭Smidge


    darkpagandeath wrote: »
    How long till they charge you for waste water ? Anyone thought of this

    AFAIK you will be charged for waste water once this comes in.
    You will be charged for both "water in" and water out"

    And also, don't both parties have to agree/sign for there to be an actual contract?


  • #78
    darkpagandeath
    Closed Accounts Posts: 24,461 ✭✭✭✭darkpagandeath


    dlnv27 wrote: »
    Just a quick question. The housing estate I'm living in has no footpath so all our water stopcocks are located in our driveways. Will Irish Water need my permission to come on to my property.

    Your lucky I live in an apartment I will not be getting a meter.... You can guarantee they will be well overcharging me for what I don't use.


  • #79
    Bongalongherb
    Closed Accounts Posts: 3,766 ✭✭✭Bongalongherb


    If all citizens of this country just didn't pay it as a secondary water-tax then there would be no extra water charges, sure you all know we have being paying for this water for decades already. I wonder in the future will the government want us all to pay for water a third time ?, it wouldn't surprise me.


  • #80
    Banjo String
    Closed Accounts Posts: 14,380 ✭✭✭✭Banjo String


    Fr. Ned wrote: »
    Apparently the super quango covers that aswell. (for the moment anyway)

    No it doesn't.

    They have no lawful right to enter your premises. It is in their own legislation.


  • #81
    Fr. Ned
    Closed Accounts Posts: 1,589 ✭✭✭Fr. Ned


    Missed it earlier but apparently hogan said "Paddy knows the charge now" in response to a question.

    Anyone hear this?


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  • #82
    Smidge
    Closed Accounts Posts: 5,541 ✭✭✭Smidge


    Fr. Ned wrote: »
    Missed it earlier but apparently hogan said "Paddy knows the charge now" in response to a question.

    Anyone hear this?

    He also couldn't add when Brian Dobson put him to the pin of his collar


  • #83
    ednwireland
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    bigroad wrote: »
    Some people on Joe duff today saying that in some countries they meter the water coming in and the waste water going out .I didnt hear if they get charged for the waste.Its only a matter of time i suppose.Maybe that was something to do with registaring the septic tanks .Who knows whats next.

    mate of mine always went on about getting a bill in and a bill out in germany.he used to empty his bathwater over the garden (never mentioned what the neighbours thought !)

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  • #84
    Fr. Ned
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    Banjo String wrote: »
    No it doesn't.

    They have no lawful right to enter your premises. It is in their own legislation.

    Charging for waste water?


  • #85
    Banjo String
    Closed Accounts Posts: 14,380 ✭✭✭✭Banjo String


    Fr. Ned wrote: »
    Charging for waste water?

    Sorry, no they cannot enter the boundaries of your private residence.


  • #86
    vicwatson
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 28,417 ✭✭✭✭vicwatson


    Hogan is a B.I.F.F.F.K


  • #87
    Gringo180
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,204 ✭✭✭Gringo180


    If they raised the financial transaction tax by 0.1 % they would of raised the same amount of money that the water charges will raise in a year, begs the question why havent they done this instead of imposing these taxes on the ordinary joe soap?


  • #88
    darkpagandeath
    Closed Accounts Posts: 24,461 ✭✭✭✭darkpagandeath


    Gringo180 wrote: »
    If they raised the transaction tax by 0.1 % they would of raised the same amount of money that the water charges will raise in a year, begs the question why havent they done this instead of imposing these taxes on the ordinary joe soap?

    Because that is sensible. All this talk of we need to fix the pipes and so on, Does that mean once the network has been upgraded repaired. They will go back to funding Clean water and treatment from Vat and so on ? :pac:


  • #89
    Gringo180
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,204 ✭✭✭Gringo180


    darkpagandeath wrote: »
    Because that is sensible. All this talk of we need to fix the pipes and so on, Does that mean once the network has been upgraded repaired. They will go back to funding Clean water and treatment from Vat and so on ? :pac:

    Irish water is nothing but a gravy train for the likes of Dennis O Brien and co. This country sickens me.


  • #90
    titan18
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,080 ✭✭✭✭titan18


    darkpagandeath wrote: »
    Because that is sensible. All this talk of we need to fix the pipes and so on, Does that mean once the network has been upgraded repaired. They will go back to funding Clean water and treatment from Vat and so on ? :pac:

    Or if everyone starts conserving water, will they increase the price to get the money needed for fixing the pipes?


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  • #91
    darkpagandeath
    Closed Accounts Posts: 24,461 ✭✭✭✭darkpagandeath


    titan18 wrote: »
    Or if everyone starts conserving water, will they increase the price to get the money needed for fixing the pipes?

    They have already said they will.


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