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Minister Hogan

  • 06-05-2014 09:21PM
    #1
    Gringo180
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,204 ✭✭✭


    PEOPLE who do not pay their water charges will have their supply reduced to 'a trickle', Environment Minister Phil Hogan has warned.

    Comments Mussolini would be proud of, I ****ing hate these cuunts running our great country they dont give a bollocks about the people!!!


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  • #2
    shopaholic01
    Closed Accounts Posts: 4,916 ✭✭✭shopaholic01


    This has been stated clearly from the off. Otherwise why would anyone bother to pay?


  • #3
    fran17
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,262 ✭✭✭fran17


    as opposed to the opposition who care so much


  • #4
    My name is URL
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 25,626 ✭✭✭✭My name is URL


    Gringo180 wrote: »
    PEOPLE who do not pay their water charges will have their supply reduced to 'a trickle', Environment Minister Phil Hogan has warned.

    Comments Mussolini would be proud of, I ****ing hate these cuunts running our great country they dont give a bollocks about the people!!!

    How do they plan on doing that? I doubt meters are fitted with devices that allow supplies to be cut off remotely! I suppose he means they'll send 4 fellas round in a van to do it.. probably costing 100 times more than what people haven't paid.


  • #5
    Wicklowrider
    Closed Accounts Posts: 1,029 ✭✭✭Wicklowrider


    As a matter of interest, how is it reduced to a trickle?

    Some kind of complicated operation like turning a valve that would be impossible for someone to turn back up?


  • #6
    Gringo180
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,204 ✭✭✭Gringo180


    shopaholic01 wrote: »
    This has been stated clearly from the off. Otherwise why would anyone bother to pay?

    Believe it or not some families just cant afford to pay the charge. So now they face the threat of having there basic human right of water been switched off.


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  • #7
    robertxxx
    Closed Accounts Posts: 1,158 ✭✭✭robertxxx


    When they reduce your pressure just go out to the water meter and twist open the valve fully, simple.


  • #8
    fleet_admiral
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,750 ✭✭✭fleet_admiral


    dont pay your bill
    water gets reduced to a trickle
    turn om back boiler
    BOOOOOOOOM
    sue government
    ????????
    profit?


  • #9
    Amirani
    Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 12,622 Mod ✭✭✭✭Amirani


    Gringo180 wrote: »
    Believe it or not some families just cant afford to pay the charge. So now they face the threat of having there basic human right of water been switched off.

    There's allowances being made for people who can't afford to pay. However, a lot of people who "can't afford it" pretty much can. You'll have your basic human right of a fair usage limit.


  • #10
    shopaholic01
    Closed Accounts Posts: 4,916 ✭✭✭shopaholic01


    Gringo180 wrote: »
    Believe it or not some families just cant afford to pay the charge. So now they face the threat of having there basic human right of water been switched off.
    He did say they would consider payment plans for these cases. I'm not defending it btw, but obviously there has to be a penalty. I wouldn't pay any of my utility bills if the service would be still be provided.


  • #11
    evolving_doors
    Closed Accounts Posts: 11,810 ✭✭✭✭evolving_doors


    Diego Simeone wrote: »
    There's allowances being made for people who can't afford to pay. However, a lot of people who "can't afford it" pretty much can. You'll have your basic human right of a fair usage limit.

    So..as was originally touted by fg...you get your fair usage limit for free (no standing charge), and then once you go over this limit you start being charged. Am I correct?


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  • #12
    Santa Cruz
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 3,126 ✭✭✭Santa Cruz


    Frank Dunlop. Born Kilkenny
    Patrick Neary. Born Kilkenny
    Phil Hogan. Born Kilkenny.

    Anyone see a trend here?


  • #13
    tomwaterford
    Closed Accounts Posts: 16,768 ✭✭✭✭tomwaterford


    My name is URL wrote: »
    How do they plan on doing that? I doubt meters are fitted with devices that allow supplies to be cut off remotely! I suppose he means they'll send 4 fellas round in a van to do it.. probably costing 100 times more than what people haven't paid.

    this is exactly what will happen id say:pac::pac:


  • #14
    bumper234
    Closed Accounts Posts: 10,250 ✭✭✭✭bumper234


    Santa Cruz wrote: »
    Frank Dunlop. Born Kilkenny
    Patrick Neary. Born Kilkenny
    Phil Hogan. Born Kilkenny.

    Anyone see a trend here?

    They all have an A in their name?


  • #15
    fran17
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,262 ✭✭✭fran17


    Santa Cruz wrote: »
    Frank Dunlop. Born Kilkenny
    Patrick Neary. Born Kilkenny
    Phil Hogan. Born Kilkenny.

    Anyone see a trend here?

    hmmm yes I do.kilkenny people are well above average in business and politics?


  • #16
    Mech1
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,203 ✭✭✭Mech1


    I remember late 90's in Australia if you abused the water system, someone showed up and fitted the equivalent of a penny washer restricter or trickle valve at your meter.


  • #17
    Banjo String
    Closed Accounts Posts: 14,380 ✭✭✭✭Banjo String


    I know in the UK the water companies cant turn off or reduce water for non payers by law.

    I think it has something to do with a fundamental human right to water.

    Can't see how they could impose it here tbh.


  • #18
    Gringo180
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,204 ✭✭✭Gringo180


    Its Hogans comments that hurts me more than anything. I am sure he wont be effected by any of these charges. Pity he doesnt **** off to his Portuguese villa on a permanent basis.


  • #19
    Banjo String
    Closed Accounts Posts: 14,380 ✭✭✭✭Banjo String


    Santa Cruz wrote: »
    Frank Dunlop. Born Kilkenny
    Patrick Neary. Born Kilkenny
    Phil Hogan. Born Kilkenny.

    Anyone see a trend here?

    Yes, each ones a bigger waste of space than the other.


  • #20
    Amirani
    Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 12,622 Mod ✭✭✭✭Amirani


    Armelodie wrote: »
    So..as was originally touted by fg...you get your fair usage limit for free (no standing charge), and then once you go over this limit you start being charged. Am I correct?

    I believe that's the current intention yeah. The standing charges were unfair, and contrary to any positive environmental principles upon which this tax was based.


  • #21
    Maphisto
    Closed Accounts Posts: 1,014 ✭✭✭Maphisto


    shopaholic01 wrote: »
    He did say they would consider payment plans for these cases. I'm not defending it btw, but obviously there has to be a penalty. I wouldn't pay any of my utility bills if the service would be still be provided.

    If you don't pay your TV Licence they don't take Fair City or the LLS away (sadly). If you don't pay road tax they don't put extra potholes just on your bit of road.

    Reducing water supplies to a trickle has possible health issues - if you don't pay they should sue you or anyone with a job a garnishee order.


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  • #22
    horse7
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,048 ✭✭✭horse7


    So houses without children will be subsidising houses with children,plus 100euro per pensioneer and home package household.


  • #23
    Wicklowrider
    Closed Accounts Posts: 1,029 ✭✭✭Wicklowrider


    Gringo180 wrote: »
    Its Hogans comments that hurts me more than anything. I am sure he wont be effected by any of these charges. Pity he doesnt **** off to his Portuguese villa on a permanent basis.

    Hit them at the polls.
    You will feel better.


  • #24
    Sir Osis of Liver.
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,820 ✭✭✭Sir Osis of Liver.


    Santa Cruz wrote: »
    Frank Dunlop. Born Kilkenny
    Patrick Neary. Born Kilkenny
    Phil Hogan. Born Kilkenny.

    Anyone see a trend here?

    Are they related to the great Brendan Kilkenny?
    And why did they change their surnames?


  • #25
    Amirani
    Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 12,622 Mod ✭✭✭✭Amirani


    horse7 wrote: »
    So houses without children will be subsidising houses with children,plus 100euro per pensioneer and home package household.

    In what way will houses without children be subsidising houses with children?


  • #26
    Wicklowrider
    Closed Accounts Posts: 1,029 ✭✭✭Wicklowrider


    Diego Simeone wrote: »
    I believe that's the current intention yeah. The standing charges were unfair, and contrary to any positive environmental principles upon which this tax was based.

    As long As Denis O Brien gets his hard earned share either way, its all grand.


  • #27
    Banjo String
    Closed Accounts Posts: 14,380 ✭✭✭✭Banjo String


    Hogan making (yet more) bullying comments like that, and Shatter found to have broken the law (as a Justice minister) in the run up to elections.

    Eamon and Enda had better remind Alan that "he's not above the law" (like they were shouting last week)

    Not good for party morale I'd say. Wipe out imminent.


  • #28
    shopaholic01
    Closed Accounts Posts: 4,916 ✭✭✭shopaholic01


    Maphisto wrote: »
    If you don't pay your TV Licence they don't take Fair City or the LLS away (sadly). If you don't pay road tax they don't put extra potholes just on your bit of road.

    Reducing water supplies to a trickle has possible health issues - if you don't pay they should sue you or anyone with a job a garnishee order.
    You can be imprisoned if you refuse to pay for a TV license - over 400 were either this year or last year. I was half listening to the radio in the car, so don't have exact details.

    You receive fines for not paying motor tax, and your car can be impounded if it's more than 2 months out of date.


  • #29
    FrStone
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 720 ✭✭✭FrStone


    Diego Simeone wrote: »
    In what way will houses without children be subsidising houses with children?

    There is going to be an extra allowance for children.

    As if the child benefit wasn't enough :rolleyes:


  • #30
    SEPT 23 1989
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 43,038 ✭✭✭✭SEPT 23 1989


    He has a terrible manner about him how he got this far is beyond me


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  • #31
    Duiske
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,086 ✭✭✭Duiske


    Diego Simeone wrote: »
    There's allowances being made for people who can't afford to pay. However, a lot of people who "can't afford it" pretty much can. You'll have your basic human right of a fair usage limit.

    Basic requirement 140,000 ltrs. Phil Hogans idea of "fair usage limit" 30,000 ltrs. Seems he's saying, "We'll give you your basic human right to clean water, but you'll pay for it in cold, hard cash".


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