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New Danny Dyer Movie - Vendetta

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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 236 ✭✭The Dom


    I can't abide Kermode. About as pompous as a person can get.

    Dyer's not the worst. Seems harmless enough.

    Makes some complete tosh though, wouldn't argue with that but he has good screen presence and be interesting to see how he gets on in Eastenders.

    Haven't watched it in years though (since Gary Kemp's character was killed off) but will tune in again to see how he gets on for sure.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 33,709 ✭✭✭✭Cantona's Collars


    Try and catch the episodes of Celebrity Juice that feature him,he really gets the piss ripped out of him but takes it in good stead.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,072 ✭✭✭Tipsy McSwagger


    The Dom wrote: »
    I can't abide Kermode. About as pompous as a person can get.

    Dyer's not the worst. Seems harmless enough.

    Makes some complete tosh though, wouldn't argue with that but he has good screen presence and be interesting to see how he gets on in Eastenders.

    Haven't watched it in years though (since Gary Kemp's character was killed off) but will tune in again to see how he gets on for sure.

    Kermode is a legend, Dyer is a bellend reduced to acting in Eastenders.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,836 ✭✭✭Sir Gallagher


    I like Danny Dyer. He is what he is, an average actor and a bit of a character who is good for the odd laugh. Any interview i see with him including the one above he seems to be fairly honest enough and self aware. He's a hard working actor, his films are by and large sh1te, something which he admits himself.

    He gets a lot of stick from guardian reader luvvies Kermode and Charlie Brooker etc. who seem to be offended by a working class bloke who acts working class.

    Edit: Also, (can't believe i forgot this) My Mothers childhood friend lives in London, her daughter was in a car crash a few years back and was in a bad way. Anyway she was a huge Danny Dyer fan, typical cockney girl. Somebody got on to Dyer and he showed up to visit her in hospital, which was a really nice thing to do.


  • Posts: 15,814 ✭✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    Kermode is a legend, Dyer is a bellend reduced to acting in Eastenders.

    I find both can be equally irritating. Kermode is something of a character but his attempts at humour are generally cringe-worthy and most of his reviews aren't all that interesting. He tries far to hard to mock films he dislikes and a lot of the time has such a smug attitude that you can't bear to listen to him.


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 6,047 ✭✭✭Da Shins Kelly


    I like Danny Dyer. He's a very amusing, kind of eccentric character. Saw him on 8 out of 10 Cats a couple of times and he was by far the funniest person there in all his outrageousness. He knows how crazy he sounds, and still goes ahead and says it.


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 188 ✭✭Mr Williams




    I like the new trailer. Danny is going to "annihilate" the bad guys in this film.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,273 ✭✭✭Decuc500


    Danny Dyer and Nick Love were over one year at the Dublin Film Festival to introduce and talk about their new movie (Outlaw). I remember Dyer introduced it by saying something like "Let's just get this facking thing on, yeah?".

    It was a very entertaining Q&A after the film as well.


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 188 ✭✭Mr Williams


    Kermode has reviewed it surprise surprise he doesnt like it.



  • Closed Accounts Posts: 5,002 ✭✭✭Seedy Arling


    Oh its all going to kick orffff...


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,297 ✭✭✭Son0vagun


    It does look terrible. I've no time for Dyer after his Agony Uncle Colum in some lads mag, he's advice to a guy was to slash his girlfriends face! Or something along those lines.

    http://www.theguardian.com/media/2010/may/05/danny-dyer-zoo-magazine

    Total scrum bag wanna be


  • Posts: 15,814 ✭✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    Seems that Vendetta is getting some decent reviews and Dyer's performance is one of the films high points. No matter how poor or mediocre the film is, you have to hand it to the filmmakers for taking £100,000 and making it look like a few million.


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 188 ✭✭Mr Williams


    Son0vagun wrote: »
    It does look terrible. I've no time for Dyer after his Agony Uncle Colum in some lads mag, he's advice to a guy was to slash his girlfriends face! Or something along those lines.

    http://www.theguardian.com/media/2010/may/05/danny-dyer-zoo-magazine

    Total scrum bag wanna be

    Apparently he didnt even write that colum.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 3,039 ✭✭✭MJ23


    Playing the same character again. "English geezah"
    He's like Johnny (no talent) Depp.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 840 ✭✭✭jsa112


    MJ23 wrote: »
    Playing the same character again. "English geezah"
    He's like Johnny (no talent) Depp.
    Yep ! Lets just ignore those 3 Oscar nominations, and 9 Golden Globe nominations. He's just like Danny Dyer !!


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 188 ✭✭Mr Williams


    Danny Dyer is actually the Daniel Day Lewis of his generation.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,798 ✭✭✭✭DrumSteve


    Danny Dyer is actually the Daniel Day Lewis of his generation.

    Daniel Dyer Lewis.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 19,976 ✭✭✭✭humanji


    jsa112 wrote: »
    Yep ! Lets just ignore those 3 Oscar nominations, and 9 Golden Globe nominations. He's just like Danny Dyer !!
    Danny Dyer has 3 oscar nominations? :P


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 188 ✭✭Mr Williams


    I was just thinking now that Mark Kermode and Danny Dyer are both working in the BBC its only a matter of time before the two of them bump into each other. Danny will probably try and smash Kermodes canister or maybe Kermode will knock him out like in this video. Either way sparks will fly.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,688 ✭✭✭enfant terrible


    "Danny Dyer has recently done a show called Danny Dyer-I believe in UFOs.I'm planning a show called Frankie Boyle-I believe in Danny Dyer, where I interview people around the country to try to work out if Danny Dyer is a genuine human being or, as I suspect, a character actor constantly auditioning to play the part of a gay garage mechanic with a serious brain injury"


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  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 188 ✭✭Mr Williams


    There has been nothing but positive reviews for Vendetta on amazon which is unusual for a danny dyer film. Maybe Vendetta is a return to form for danny.

    http://www.amazon.co.uk/product-reviews/B00EDN0BJK/ref=dp_top_cm_cr_acr_txt?ie=UTF8&showViewpoints=1


  • Posts: 15,814 ✭✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    Threw this on last night as I was in the mood for some easy to watch nonsense. It's pretty much Death Wish by ways of Rambo and while there are some questionable politics it's generally a rather enjoyable piece of over the top nonsense that manages to take £100,000 and make it look like it cost thirty times that. It's a slick and well made genre film in which Dyer gives a damn good performance and leaves you wishing that he'd stop taking the easy money and actually try acting more often. Go in with low expectations and you'll be pleasantly surprised by it all and left wondering why it is that for 100K first time British film makers can pull off films as cinematic looking as Vendetta, Shifty and Ill Manors while Irish film makers can't do similar with vastly inflated budgets.


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 1,294 ✭✭✭Jumboman


    Threw this on last night as I was in the mood for some easy to watch nonsense. It's pretty much Death Wish by ways of Rambo and while there are some questionable politics it's generally a rather enjoyable piece of over the top nonsense that manages to take £100,000 and make it look like it cost thirty times that. It's a slick and well made genre film in which Dyer gives a damn good performance and leaves you wishing that he'd stop taking the easy money and actually try acting more often. Go in with low expectations and you'll be pleasantly surprised by it all and left wondering why it is that for 100K first time British film makers can pull off films as cinematic looking as Vendetta, Shifty and Ill Manors while Irish film makers can't do similar with vastly inflated budgets.

    Its let down by the ending I think Outlaw is a better film.

    Also Vendetta feels very generic.


  • Posts: 15,814 ✭✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    Jumboman wrote: »
    Its let down by the ending I think Outlaw is a better film.

    Also Vendetta feels very generic.

    Outlaw was a horrible piece of daily mailesque trash with disgusting politics and a message that was poorly implemented and simplistic.


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 1,294 ✭✭✭Jumboman


    Outlaw was a horrible piece of daily mailesque trash with disgusting politics and a message that was poorly implemented and simplistic.

    What was disgusting about it ? I think sean beans performance in it was very good. So were the other actors apart from danny dyer who didnt really add anything to the film.

    The problem with the film was that script was all over the place and didnt really go anywhere. But atleast the ending was alot more realistic than Vendetta.


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 1,294 ✭✭✭Jumboman


    Outlaw was a horrible piece of daily mailesque trash with disgusting politics and a message that was poorly implemented and simplistic.


    The whole concept of any vigilante film is simplistic.

    You could say the same thing about Harry Brown yet that was a great film.


  • Posts: 15,814 ✭✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    Jumboman wrote: »
    What was disgusting about it ? I think sean beans performance in it was very good. So were the other actors apart from danny dyer who didnt really add anything to the film.

    The problem with the film was that script was all over the place and didnt really go anywhere. But atleast the ending was alot more realistic than Vendetta.
    Jumboman wrote: »
    The whole concept of any vigilante film is simplistic.

    You could say the same thing about Harry Brown yet that was a great film.

    Nothing to do with vigilantism but rather the motivation behind it and much of the dialogue is infused with a hate that's hard to like. They actively try to have you root for out vigilantes and unlike in films such as Taxi Driver or Falling Down the film doesn't challenge the viewer to look at them selves and understand why it is they are rooting for the characters. Were supposed to root for them because they're there, no other reasons and once you start to root for someone like Bickle or the Exterminator then the film has failed. It's also one of those films that mistakes graphic violence for entertainment.

    Now, don't get me wrong in films such as Crank and The Raid the violence is why were there and it impresses yet here violence is ugly and exploitative. And not in an interesting way, characters exist simply so that horrible things can happen them. The Death Wish films at the very least had something to say but all Love is concerned with is how cool knifing a pregnant woman looks. It's also a rather racist film that's sole non white character is there simply so Love can deflect accusations of racism. I can imagine certain far right political parties in the UK embracing the film for the way it depicts Britian. Even the dialogue is peppered with horrible hate speech, look no further than the Bob Hoskins moment where he promises to deliver to our heroes "junkies, scum, *****, bullies, scum, the dogs". There's a repellant nature to all of it that makes the film hard to enjoy as even a bit of escapism, there's a genuine hatefulness to it that you simply cannot ignore. It's hard to enjoy a film which so obviously sets out with a distorted and vile ideology, the scene where Sean Bean complains about how aids suffers and suicide bombers get looked after by the government while neglecting the average white British man is stomach churning.


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 1,294 ✭✭✭Jumboman


    It's also a rather racist film that's sole non white character is there simply so Love can deflect accusations of racism.
    I didnt see anything racist about it I thought the guy who played the black lawyer was a very good actor unlike danny dyer.

    You could say the film was racist because all the bad guys are white it doesn't show any of londons black gangs. But I think your looking too deeply into the film.


    . Even the dialogue is peppered with horrible hate speech, look no further than the Bob Hoskins moment where he promises to deliver to our heroes "junkies, scum, *****, bullies, scum, the dogs".
    In that scene he says "dealers" not junkies. I thought that was a good scene he talks about how a granny had her house burnt down for talking to the police. The film was trying to show how lawless the UK is.

    . It's hard to enjoy a film which so obviously sets out with a distorted and vile ideology,
    Unfortunately the film doesn't really have any coherent ideology. Sean Bean becomes a vigilante because his wife left him.

    the scene where Sean Bean complains about how aids suffers and suicide bombers get looked after by the government while neglecting the average white British man is stomach churning.
    I had to laugh at that scene I think the director was taking the piss.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,072 ✭✭✭Tipsy McSwagger


    Is this the one where Danny Dyer plays a hard man cockney geezer?


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  • Posts: 15,814 ✭✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    Jumboman wrote: »
    I didnt see anything racist about it I thought the guy who played the black lawyer was a very good actor unlike danny dyer.

    You could say the film was racist because all the bad guys are white it doesn't show any of londons black gangs. But I think your looking too deeply into the film.

    Lennie James's may as well have been called Token given that he's in the film simply so people can't accuse Love's film of being racist. Sean Harris's character seems to join the group because he's a racist who takes everything he reads in the Daily Mail as fact. There is within Outlaw an interesting film waiting to get out, a film about the racial friction which exists between the white working class and the emigrant population and Love repeatedly hints at it but it's through throwaway dialogue that goes nowhere.

    Jumboman wrote: »
    In that scene he says "dealers" not junkies. I thought that was a good scene he talks about how a granny had her house burnt down for talking to the police. The film was trying to show how lawless the UK is.

    Are you saying that you think Outlaw is somewhat representative of modern day Britain? And does it matter if he says dealers or junkies, they also talk about taking out "cunts" which could mean everything from some guy who skipped ahead of you in the line at Tesco to rapists. The only thing believable about Outlaw and it's portrayal of Britain is that there's some nasty people there but that's about it. Britain is not lawless.
    Jumboman wrote: »
    Unfortunately the film doesn't really have any coherent ideology. Sean Bean becomes a vigilante because his wife left him.

    The ideology is that there it's just not very well implemented. It's a film for people who see stories in the Daily Mail about emigrants destroying the country and march on the house of pediatricians baying for blood.
    Jumboman wrote: »
    I had to laugh at that scene I think the director was taking the piss.

    Pretty sure that Love was being serious there. Hard to believe that he'd push a similar ideology throughout the rest of the film and then start having a laugh


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