Race attacks rise again in Belfast

dd972 · 06-05-2014 12:21AM #1

http://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/2014/may/05/poland-envoy-concerned-attacks-belfast

It mentions East Belfast and the UVF being behind these latest spate of attacks on Poles, a tad ironic when they deny being Irish but have a problem with 'foreigners'' coming to Ireland. They probably have a problem with the Poles being Left footers as well.

obezyana · 06-05-2014 12:22AM

Why are they attacking the poles sure don't they hang their flags from them? Are they not flying the flags properly or something?

Tail Docker · 06-05-2014 12:24AM

Fleggers in a flap over poles.

orangesoda · 06-05-2014 12:30AM

Sure some unionists think they are the true natives because the Cruithin were driven to Scotland in 637AD by the Northern Ui Neill, yet they use the red hand symbol which is associated with the tribes of that kingdom.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cruthin#Modern_culture

J_E · 06-05-2014 12:37AM

orangesoda wrote: »

Sure some unionists think they are the true natives because the Cruithin were driven to Scotland in 637AD by the Northern Ui Neill, yet they use the red hand symbol which is associated with the tribes of that kingdom.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cruthin#Modern_culture

How utterly ridiculous to have a mindset like that in this day and age. 'true natives' ffs.

Stained Class · 06-05-2014 12:39AM

Shure let them at it.

It's a different country FFS.

Let them destroy themselves.

See if I care.

06-05-2014 12:40AM

I wish people would learn the difference between xenophobia and racism.

Amirani · 06-05-2014 12:41AM

Stained Class wrote: »

Shure let them at it.

It's a different country FFS.

You sound like a nice guy.

The Backwards Man · 06-05-2014 12:43AM

There are cnuts in Belfast just like everywhere else. The majority of Belfast people are good people, even I don't always agree with them, on both sides.

hfallada · 06-05-2014 12:43AM

I was reading a book for sociology in college now. That said Ireland is the least racist English speaking country in the world and it brackets its had (Southern Ireland). Its incredible how the south has gone from being of the most homogeneous countries in the western world, where everyone was white, irish, catholic. To being a tolerant and diverse nation. When the North is still fighting over marginal differences between two groups of people who are very similar. I knew its a very simplified understanding of the situation.

You can out about ROI being a ****ty, poorly run country. But we have made ourselves a very tolerant nation and dodged most issues european countries are having with non-nationals

ScumLord · 06-05-2014 12:46AM

Three homes where Polish families lived were attacked in east Belfast over the weekend with windows smashed and graffiti sprayed on hoardings with the words "locals only".

There is a certain irony, It's like they borrowed a page from the republicans, Brits out -- Locals only, as long as you've lived here for at least two generations. It's about time they started drawing facepalm memorials on buildings up there.

Stained Class · 06-05-2014 12:47AM

Diego Simeone wrote: »

You sound like a nice guy.

We have enough problems without paying any attention to a crowd of fools who have been pandered to by the USA & others.

GET A LIFE FOR FOOKS SAKE & SORT IT OUT!

Amirani · 06-05-2014 12:50AM

Stained Class wrote: »

We have enough problems without paying any attention to a crowd of fools who have been pandered to by the USA & others.

GET A LIFE FOR FOOKS SAKE & SORT IT OUT!

I don't have any problems. Sorry that you have problems, I hope they sort themselves for you.

Stained Class · 06-05-2014 12:57AM

Diego Simeone wrote: »

I don't have any problems. Sorry that you have problems, I hope they sort themselves for you.

What problems do I have?

NI has had it's problems. The Yanks panderd to it. The Brits pumped in millions into the place.

People running the show were given Nobel Peace prizes.

And yet, it's still a disaster!!

Fook it.

shampon · 06-05-2014 01:03AM

hfallada wrote: »

I was reading a book for sociology in college now. That said Ireland is the least racist English speaking country in the world and it brackets its had (Southern Ireland). Its incredible how the south has gone from being of the most homogeneous countries in the western world, where everyone was white, irish, catholic. To being a tolerant and diverse nation. When the North is still fighting over marginal differences between two groups of people who are very similar. I knew its a very simplified understanding of the situation.

You can out about ROI being a ****ty, poorly run country. But we have made ourselves a very tolerant nation and dodged most issues european countries are having with non-nationals

I can agree with you here. I have been living in the North for the last three years. It's a backward, hateful hole.

Sound of Silence · 06-05-2014 01:06AM

Stained Class wrote: »

We have enough problems without paying any attention to a crowd of fools who have been pandered to by the USA & others.

GET A LIFE FOR FOOKS SAKE & SORT IT OUT!

Maybe you should take your own advice on this one.

No one here has asked you to continue commenting on threads concerning Northern Ireland -- something which you've done quite a lot recently and entirely of your own accord.

Any agitation you're feeling is your problem.

P_1 · 06-05-2014 01:07AM

Perhaps it's a cunning ploy from the loyalists to prevent a 32 county republic from ever happening.

Act so much of a bollox that nobody in their right mind would want the place.

Stained Class · 06-05-2014 01:14AM

Sound of Silence wrote: »

Maybe you should take your own advice on this one.

No one here has asked you to continue commenting on threads concerning Northern Ireland -- something which you've done quite a lot recently and entirely of your own accord.

Any agitation you're feeling is your problem.

Are you following/tracking/observing me?

Something creepy about you TBH.

Sound of Silence · 06-05-2014 01:25AM

Stained Class wrote: »

Are you following/tracking/observing me?

Something creepy about you TBH.

Don't flatter yourself.

If anyone posts enough in a thread I'm following, I'll recognise their username.

Stained Class · 06-05-2014 01:33AM

Sound of Silence wrote: »

Don't flatter yourself.

If anyone posts enough in a thread I'm following, I'll recognise their username.

Ah shure I'll have to keep my my mouth shut so....

and let you have your way.

orangesoda · 06-05-2014 01:42AM

shampon wrote: »

I can agree with you here. I have been living in the North for the last three years. It's a backward, hateful hole.

it is certainly not a hole, it has some of the best areas on the island and is dripping with culture, left right and centre

MyPeopleDrankTheSoup · 06-05-2014 01:56AM

what i can't understand is, northern unionists don't come across as the master race. they've some dodgy, stupid, inbred individuals. it's not like romanian gypsies taking over bavaria.

i think poles improve this island if anything.

Nodin · 06-05-2014 06:02AM

Stained Class wrote: »

Shure let them at it.

It's a different country FFS.

Let them destroy themselves.

See if I care.

O ye charmer ye.

Galwayguy35 · 06-05-2014 06:12AM

Is anyone surprised?

Whould anybody with an accent that sounds like you come from south of the border ever live in East Belfast?

The fact that most Polish are Catholic probably doesn't help either.

DildoFaggins · 06-05-2014 07:04AM

Lardle Dardle lardy dardy

ryan101 · 06-05-2014 07:17AM

Nothing new for NI.
Poles are Catholic, and therefore sub human in the eyes of loyalists.

Chinasea · 06-05-2014 07:48AM

hfallada wrote: »

I was reading a book for sociology in college now. That said Ireland is the least racist English speaking country in the world and it brackets its had (Southern Ireland). Its incredible how the south has gone from being of the most homogeneous countries in the western world, where everyone was white, irish, catholic. To being a tolerant and diverse nation. When the North is still fighting over marginal differences between two groups of people who are very similar. I knew its a very simplified understanding of the situation.

You can out about ROI being a ****ty, poorly run country. But we have made ourselves a very tolerant nation and dodged most issues european countries are having with non-nationals

We have? What book were you reading? And btw, it isn't a competition who is better or worse. There have been several well documented racial murders in both the RoI and N-Ireland.

There are plenty of sad shameful facts and figures out there which will clearly give a much different report as to what you are saying. Try living in this country as a "foreign national" and/person with a different skin colour, then report back. Let's start at looking at this recent report from the Immigrant Council.

An end-of-year report from the Immigrant Council of Ireland showed 144 racist incidents were recorded throughout 2013 - up 85% from the year before.

Council chief executive Denise Charlton said the involvement of children - both as perpetrators and victims - was particularly concerning and that reports of racism peaked during school holidays.

"It is worth noting that July was by far the busiest month with 31 incidents, while other periods corresponded with mid-term periods around Halloween with 18 reports in November and St Patrick's Day when 15 reports were received in March," Ms Charlton said.

http://www.independent.ie/irish-news/huge-jump-in-racist-abuse-by-children-29873299.html

BearBanjer · 06-05-2014 07:55AM

Candie wrote: »

I wish people would learn the difference between xenophobia and racism.

I wish we didn't need those words.

shampon · 06-05-2014 10:44AM

orangesoda wrote: »

it is certainly not a hole, it has some of the best areas on the island and is dripping with culture, left right and centre

Bahahahaha

Yeah_Right · 06-05-2014 11:32AM

hfallada wrote: »

I was reading a book for sociology in college now. That said Ireland is the least racist English speaking country in the world and it brackets its had (Southern Ireland). Its incredible how the south has gone from being of the most homogeneous countries in the western world, where everyone was white, irish, catholic. To being a tolerant and diverse nation. When the North is still fighting over marginal differences between two groups of people who are very similar. I knew its a very simplified understanding of the situation.

You can out about ROI being a ****ty, poorly run country. But we have made ourselves a very tolerant nation and dodged most issues european countries are having with non-nationals

Seriously?!?! I have to say I find that very hard to believe. I think Ireland is a very racist country and definitely not the least racist in the English speaking world.

hfallada · 06-05-2014 11:41AM

Yeah_Right wrote: »

Seriously?!?! I have to say I find that very hard to believe. I think Ireland is a very racist country and definitely not the least racist in the English speaking world.

Have you been to any schools or colleges in Dublin. Irish and Non-Irish are mixing and forming friendships. If you go to most schools in the US, you will find the African americans go to one school and white children to another due to the way school districts are drawn. Even in places like NYC the schools are very much segregated. I would say Canada might be tolerant than us. But then again there is massive tensions between English speakings Canadians and French Canadians. To extent that French Canadians see Quebue as a state within a state, rather than a part of Canadian

Yes there is racism in Ireland. But there is racism all over the World.You will hear a German casually talk about their hatred of the Turks, a group of people in Germany for over 70 years and who are still called "Gastarbeiters or Guest Workers". You would find an Irish person talk about their hatred of Chinese within a few mins of talking to them.

Ireland is the only country in the EU without a far right, anti immigration party. And in a country where up to 20% of the population is foreign born, that says a lot about Irish people.

Race attacks rise again in Belfast

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