ESB Unimogs

Conmaicne Mara · 05-05-2014 06:05PM #1

ESB Unimogs, could they be converted to take a lime spreader on the truck itself, if so how would that work?

merryberry · 05-05-2014 06:07PM

Conmaicne Mara wrote: »

ESB Unimogs, could they be converted to take a lime spreader on the truck itself, if so how would that work?

They have high ground clearance. Wonder would this a problem on uneven ground with a load on the back.

Conmaicne Mara · 05-05-2014 06:09PM

merryberry wrote: »

They have high ground clearance. Wonder would this a problem on uneven ground with a load on the back.

It could be in fairness.

rangler1 · 05-05-2014 06:11PM

Conmaicne Mara wrote: »

It could be in fairness.

Is that going to be the next toy, often thought I'd like one myself, I find tractors very uncomfortable

merryberry · 05-05-2014 06:11PM

Conmaicne Mara wrote: »

It could be in fairness.

Seen one in uk modified as a tractor unit with a beet trailer yoked to back.

Rovi · 05-05-2014 06:15PM

Unimogs generally are fantastically capable vehicles, but they are pretty tall and flexible, which might not be ideal with a heavy load on steep ground.

Do the ESB Mogs have the same low speed gearboxes the agri-spec ones have?

Conmaicne Mara · 05-05-2014 06:16PM

rangler1 wrote: »

Is that going to be the next toy, often thought I'd like one myself, I find tractors very uncomfortable

Am thinking ahead, probably jinxing myself in the process. Was thinking about my Dads land, and liming it. Actually it's the merchants fault, because I knew the answer before I asked about 500kg bags of granlime, "We don't do them, no demand". Missing the point that I was looking.

Anyway, went back to thinking of bulk lime. Half afraid that, seriously, helicopter might be the only option to lime that land. A small tractor with vicon would do it, but there's a long "commute" shall we say, from where the ag lime would need to be dumped, so a bazillion trips would be needed.

Small problem in relation to many, but annoying all the same.

A tracked dumper converted to carry a lime spreader was another thought, very slow, not that the land allows any speed anyway.

05-05-2014 06:18PM

Yes they can is the short answer.

Rovi · 05-05-2014 06:21PM

All the ESB Mogs I know are the U140 model, which are their 418 Light Weight variants.
A proper agri-spec one might be a better base to start from; it'll have PTO, 3-point linkage, hydraulics, low-range gearbox, etc.

Enjoy

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http://www.unimogs.co.uk/unimogsforsale.asp

rangler1 · 05-05-2014 06:22PM

Conmaicne Mara wrote: »

Am thinking ahead, probably jinxing myself in the process. Was thinking about my Dads land, and liming it. Actually it's the merchants fault, because I knew the answer before I asked about 500kg bags of granlime, "We don't do them, no demand". Missing the point that I was looking.

Anyway, went back to thinking of bulk lime. Half afraid that, seriously, helicopter might be the only option to lime that land. A small tractor with vicon would do it, but there's a long "commute" shall we say, from where the ag lime would need to be dumped, so a bazillion trips would be needed.

Small problem in relation to many, but annoying all the same.

A tracked dumper converted to carry a lime spreader was another thought, very slow, not that the land allows any speed anyway.

I've seen lime spread with a rotary dung spreader, if you have to drive a distance with lime in a fertiliser spreader, it'll set in the spreader and won't flow down into the discs

moy83 · 05-05-2014 06:35PM

I know a lad that has a lime spreader and tractor kitted out especially for your kind of ground . He is using it for liming the mountain where he has alot of sheep . He had to get the lime spreader adapted to take higher wheels to get him over the rough spots .

Do the ESB Unimogs have pto ? Ive a fondness for a fastrac myself but I doubt it'll happen for me

Conmaicne Mara · 05-05-2014 06:39PM

rangler1 wrote: »

I've seen lime spread with a rotary dung spreader, if you have to drive a distance with lime in a fertiliser spreader, it'll set in the spreader and won't flow down into the discs

Yeah heard of the dung spreader too. Nearly be as well get a trailed lime spreader, if a fella could get a landdrive spreader, that'd be some job.

On the tractor spreader, know a guy spread it with wagtail, had an agitator inside the spreader itself.

moy83 wrote: »

I know a lad that has a lime spreader and tractor kitted out especially for your kind of ground . He is using it for liming the mountain where he has alot of sheep . He had to get the lime spreader adapted to take higher wheels to get him over the rough spots .

Do the ESB Unimogs have pto ? Ive a fondness for a fastrac myself but I doubt it'll happen for me

Fella here has a fastrac, I read on the UK forums they have a fondness of going on fire.

Would you PM me the guys name, wondering if it's the same fella McGraths told me about. I wouldn't mind seeing that rig in action to be 100% honest.

monkeynuz · 05-05-2014 06:45PM

merryberry wrote: »

Seen one in uk modified as a tractor unit with a beet trailer yoked to back.

I remember a contractor for the council, doing all of the grass verges with a unimog and flail mower, used to see him all over the county aver a 6 week period in the summer.

moy83 · 05-05-2014 07:10PM

Conmaicne Mara wrote: »

Would you PM me the guys name, wondering if it's the same fella McGraths told me about. I wouldn't mind seeing that rig in action to be 100% honest.

Will do , I doubt Mc Graths would be reccommending this lad cos I dont think he is out on hire . But its a fine job , about 12' wide I think

GrandSoftDay · 05-05-2014 07:53PM

Have you much to do Con? I spread 2 bags of gran lime to the acre with the fert here 3 years back and the response was unreal and I put it out again this year and still have the same response. I think myself it would suit your terrain a lot more. Seen a neighbour here putting out ground lime last year and it has made no difference yet, how long does it take to start acting does anyone know?

Reggie. · 05-05-2014 08:14PM

Conmaicne Mara wrote: »

ESB Unimogs, could they be converted to take a lime spreader on the truck itself, if so how would that work?

I'm sure I've seen that system running before somewhere

eire23 · 05-05-2014 08:16PM

GrandSoftDay wrote: »

Have you much to do Con? I spread 2 bags of gran lime to the acre with the fert here 3 years back and the response was unreal and I put it out again this year and still have the same response. I think myself it would suit your terrain a lot more. Seen a neighbour here putting out ground lime last year and it has made no difference yet, how long does it take to start acting does anyone know?

Ground lime takes a year to work at a minimum, depends on how fine it is really and the finer the better.
Spread ground lime here 3 years ago from a certain quarry and have seen nearly no reaction to it The lime wasnt near fine enough so it i suppose it shouldnt be a suprise really but i dont know how it could be department approved. Changed supplier since and the lime is pure powder and find it works fierce well.

Conmaicne Mara · 05-05-2014 08:32PM

GrandSoftDay wrote: »

Have you much to do Con? I spread 2 bags of gran lime to the acre with the fert here 3 years back and the response was unreal and I put it out again this year and still have the same response. I think myself it would suit your terrain a lot more. Seen a neighbour here putting out ground lime last year and it has made no difference yet, how long does it take to start acting does anyone know?

Takes a year to eighteen months for ground lime to work. You're right gran easier to handle, but google Buildings you'll see it needs put out every year, 3 bags to acre to improve Ph, expensive.

Zr105 · 05-05-2014 08:46PM

Reggie. wrote: »

I'm sure I've seen that system running before somewhere

a lot of boys in nz and oz running unimogs and man 4wd trucks with spreaders on the back, for them its all about speed getting there, passed a yard in oz one day and there was 5 trucks sitting there with spreader bodies(think it was fert plant but not sure) and all towing dolly trailers with roll covers. cant remember wether it was auger or conveyor on back to load truck.

think theres a few over in uk aswell

Figerty · 05-05-2014 08:46PM

Conmaicne Mara wrote: »

Am thinking ahead, probably jinxing myself in the process. Was thinking about my Dads land, and liming it. Actually it's the merchants fault, because I knew the answer before I asked about 500kg bags of granlime, "We don't do them, no demand". Missing the point that I was looking.

Anyway, went back to thinking of bulk lime. Half afraid that, seriously, helicopter might be the only option to lime that land. A small tractor with vicon would do it, but there's a long "commute" shall we say, from where the ag lime would need to be dumped, so a bazillion trips would be needed.

Small problem in relation to many, but annoying all the same.

A tracked dumper converted to carry a lime spreader was another thought, very slow, not that the land allows any speed anyway.

Back of the vicon has a place for a ball hitch. Screw in a ball hitch and pull a four week car trailer behind you and the spreader. 7 bags in the hopper and another 13 in the trailer and you job is made a lot easier.

Reggie. · 05-05-2014 08:49PM

Figerty wrote: »

Back of the vicon has a place for a ball hitch. Screw in a ball hitch and pull a four week car trailer behind you and the spreader. 7 bags in the hopper and another 13 in the trailer and you job is made a lot easier.

If I tried that the ball hitch would come off

moy83 · 05-05-2014 09:03PM

Reggie. wrote: »

If I tried that the ball hitch would come off

Happened the father one time with 3 tonne of fert in the silage trailer . The pin ripped through the eye on the back of the spreader and buried the hitch in the road

Reggie. · 05-05-2014 09:04PM

moy83 wrote: »

Happened the father one time with 3 tonne of fert in the silage trailer . The pin ripped through the eye on the back of the spreader and buried the hitch in the road

Ouch

moy83 · 05-05-2014 09:15PM

Reggie. wrote: »

Ouch

That was grand no manure was spilled . The cattle trailer came off the jeep another time and ploughed into a car with a woman and five kids . Wrote off the car , it goes to show how times have changed she just asked for the price of the car and said the kids were grand and had great craic when it happened . Brought her down the house for a cheque and gave the kids ice creams and that was it

C0N0R · 05-05-2014 09:48PM

Zr105 wrote: »

a lot of boys in nz and oz running unimogs and man 4wd trucks with spreaders on the back, for them its all about speed getting there, passed a yard in oz one day and there was 5 trucks sitting there with spreader bodies(think it was fert plant but not sure) and all towing dolly trailers with roll covers. cant remember wether it was auger or conveyor on back to load truck.

think theres a few over in uk aswell

The dolly trailers normally have conveyor belts. Have seen some that actually but out a set of jacks and can tip over the side if you get what I mean.

Figerty · 05-05-2014 09:55PM

Reggie. wrote: »

If I tried that the ball hitch would come off

I've done and the hitch stayed on. Tighten the nut and put a Lynch pin across the hole in case it comes loose.

Moy83, In fairness put 3 ton behind a two bars about 8mm thick with a big hole in it was asking for trouble. I'd say he never read the manual!

Zr105 · 05-05-2014 10:04PM

C0N0R wrote: »

The dolly trailers normally have conveyor belts. Have seen some that actually but out a set of jacks and can tip over the side if you get what I mean.

yeah i get ya! think theres a lad in nz runs a couple of stretched fastracs with those trailers, something like 8ton capacity spreader on the fastrac if im not mistaken!:eek:

moy83 · 05-05-2014 10:17PM

Figerty wrote: »

I've done and the hitch stayed on. Tighten the nut and put a Lynch pin across the hole in case it comes loose.

Moy83, In fairness put 3 ton behind a two bars about 8mm thick with a big hole in it was asking for trouble. I'd say he never read the manual!

Manual ! Ha ! It was probably 2 different shakers that he had patched together knowing his MO

J.O. Farmer · 05-05-2014 10:27PM

moy83 wrote: »

Manual ! Ha ! It was probably 2 different shakers that he had patched together knowing his MO

That sounds about right for an old school West of Ireland farmer.

Reggie. · 05-05-2014 10:32PM

J.O. Farmer wrote: »

That sounds about right for an old school West of Ireland farmer.

I think that could be most farmers

J.O. Farmer · 05-05-2014 10:45PM

Reggie. wrote: »

I think that could be most farmers

I thought we were a special breed in the west.
You see some of the machinery on say big tillage farms and it's hard to imagine them guntering 2 spreaders together before hooking on the silage spreader to head down the local co-op for a few tonne of manure. My dad on the other hand I've helped at that kind of thing.

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