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Peaches Geldof died due to heroin overdose**MOD NOTE: NO JOKES**

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 23,380 ✭✭✭✭Ash.J.Williams


    mikom wrote: »
    You underestimate the general public's lack of intelligence.
    Shur Sex and the city was a life guide for many of the long lashed Celtic tiger cubs.
    ha i never underestimate the stupidity of the general public


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,161 ✭✭✭Amazingfun


    iguana wrote: »
    She most certainly did not. She was very open about having weaned both her sons at 5 months. She gave the reason for this as a thyroid issue, though in hindsight perhaps it had something to do with her methadone/heroin use?
    And then with my second child it was a lot easier,' Peaches explained on Saturday night. 'But I had a sort of thyroid problem, which is quite good actually because you can eat whatever you want, you don't have to have medication and you don't just don't gain any weight, ever.'

    Interesting, I didn't know that. Thyroid problems can wreak havoc if not properly treated. This could be a contributing factor as well.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 4,512 ✭✭✭Muise...


    mikom wrote: »
    You underestimate the general public's lack of intelligence.
    Shur Sex and the city was a life guide for many of the long lashed Celtic tiger cubs.

    Ah well, that'll balance out in a Malthusian or, longer term, Darwinian process. :D


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,142 ✭✭✭Hitchens


    Police said they want to know who supplied Peaches with the fatal class A drug, and it is understood her husband Thomas Cohen, 23, may be questioned.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 589 ✭✭✭cometogether


    There doesn't appear to be any evidence that she was a drug addict. For all we know this may have been her first time taking heroin


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,439 ✭✭✭corner of hells


    There doesn't appear to be any evidence that she was a drug addict. For all we know this may have been her first time taking heroin

    Apart from attending a clinic for methadone.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 589 ✭✭✭cometogether


    Apart from attending a clinic for methadone.

    Has that been confirmed?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,971 ✭✭✭Holsten


    She was an addict, I remember years ago reading some story about a guy who posted up a blog post of a one night stand he had with her. He was an addict himself, they were both shooting heroin together. He had pictures and all.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,439 ✭✭✭corner of hells


    Has that been confirmed?

    No , I made it up.Though oddly enough some media entities are throwing around stories of her attending a clinic in Kent and being on a script of 20mls.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,472 ✭✭✭brooke 2


    Very grim indeed. A sad circle of tragedy here, history repeating itself. I feel sad for her father and her children, and I feel terribly sad for Peaches herself. Sure, anyone who takes drugs knows there is a risk involved, but I don't think anyone ever thinks that they'll get addicted or die from it. I'm sure she had a lot of complicated issues from childhood. Life is hard sometimes.

    They're saying "heroin played a part in her death" or something like that. Is that a roundabout way of saying it was a heroin overdose, or could there be more to it that hasn't been revealed yet?

    They said in the initial investigation that there was no drug paraphernalia in the house, which seems odd. Did the husband clean up before calling emergency services? Also, it was said initially that her husband was not home and had a neighbour to go around and check on her when she wasn't answering his calls, now it's being said that he was the one who found her with his mother, and thought she was just sleeping.

    Seems odd. The husband might have known there was something up with her.

    Was also kind of strange that her father-in-law brought the baby home to her on the Sunday evening. Her husband had brought the
    two children to his parents' house on the previous Thursday. This
    was reported as something which occurred quite often to 'give each of them space' to pursue their individual business commitments.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,472 ✭✭✭brooke 2


    Sadderday wrote: »
    Maybe her husband was wide to her taking heroin and took the kids away for that reason ?

    That thought occurred to me also. Thursday to Monday was a very long weekend.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 3,228 ✭✭✭mrsbyrne


    Hitchens wrote: »
    Police said they want to know who supplied Peaches with the fatal class A drug, and it is understood her husband Thomas Cohen, 23, may be questioned.

    Its worser its improving.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,142 ✭✭✭Hitchens


    mrsbyrne wrote: »
    Its worser its improving.
    the hurrier I go, the behinder I get


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 6,496 ✭✭✭Boombastic


    There doesn't appear to be any evidence that she was a drug addict. For all we know this may have been her first time taking heroin

    Jan 2008- 'the sun newspaper' video of her handing £140 to a pusher and say 'I need to get all the stuff from you to it, tomorrow I need Valium.

    July 2008- od's on heroin and has to be revived by ambulance crew after she stopped breathing for several minutes

    2010 - Ben mills posts topless pictures of her and boasts of their sex romp high on heroin

    2011 - Freddy Mac Connelly's inquest - in his dairy ' peaches is coming over later and I'm going to inject for the first time'

    2012- peaches admits she experimented with drugs, but remembers what happened to her mum, so she doesn't go wild on the stuff

    2014- dead



    Yeah it was probably her first time taking it??


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 3,228 ✭✭✭mrsbyrne


    It now appears that the story about the clean up of the drugs paraphanalia was untrue.
    http://www.rte.ie/news/2014/0502/614779-peaches-geldof/
    Journalists just invent stuff willy nilly. They do be gas so they do.
    If she'd been in sole charge of the toddler, whose more than likely mobile, it could have been a far more serious tragedy , dirty syringes and the like lying around. Madness.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 22,966 ✭✭✭✭Tony EH


    Holsten wrote: »
    She was an addict, I remember years ago reading some story about a guy who posted up a blog post of a one night stand he had with her. He was an addict himself, they were both shooting heroin together. He had pictures and all.

    There was also another article I remember reading where one of her friends said she was nicknamed the Dyson, because she hovered up so much coke.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 92,394 ✭✭✭✭JP Liz V1


    https://uk.celebrity.yahoo.com/news/katie-hopkins-hits-sympathising-peaches-geldof-death-following-151418214.html


    Katie Hopkins on Twitter: "If Peaches was a mother on benefits living on a council estate, would you all still be wearing your 'right on' badge with such pride?"
    She then said: "*trots off to get degree in drug use in order to be allowed an opinion*" (sic)
    Explaining why she'd decided not to tweet her condolences following the tragic death Hopkins wrote in her weekly Sun column earlier this month, referencing her clash with Peaches on ITV's This Morning about parenting styles: "Peaches and I met once, on a TV sofa in central London. We were strangers and remained adversaries.
    "Peaches didn’t want a tweet from me. She didn’t welcome it in life. She certainly didn’t need it in death. She was tough enough not to seek approval from anyone. I admire that trait in others."
    Touching on Peaches' strained upbringing, she went on: "Growing up without a mum brought heartbreak into Peaches’ life. Her death threatens to do the same for her boys. History has done a terrible thing and repeated itself. When everything seems lost for one poor family, there is only dignity to hold on to and privacy to give. Sir Bob kept his dignity with words of raw despair."
    "I offer privacy with silence," she added. "Peaches didn’t need tweets from celebrities or strangers — she just needed a mother’s love."


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 3,412 ✭✭✭Shakespeare's Sister


    While Katie Hopkins' thing about a single mother on benefits living in a council estate seems callous (and the bit about getting a degree in drug abuse to be allowed an opinion - idiotic) she's not far wrong, in my opinion. While plenty of us would view the similar death of a single mom on benefits living in a council estate to be just as tragic... generally speaking, there would be far less sympathy for such a woman than there is for Peaches.

    And I think the rest of what Hopkins has written, despite her being a professional sh1t-stirrer who probably doesn't believe half of what she says (she talks about being a cut above the masses... yet writes a column in The Sun for ****'s sake! :D) is quite eloquent and spot-on.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 3,228 ✭✭✭mrsbyrne


    Human nature being what it is, people who totally buy into the celebrity culture (its a harmless enough pursuit, until these followers attempt to emulate their heroes) are understandably disbelieving when the king/queen is proven to be wearing no clothes. Peaches Geldof appeared to be someone to look up to and admire. Now it appears she was no different to any other sad junkie mum in a crappy flat . Except that unlike most sad junkie mums Peaches had the educational financial and family wherewith all to get help.
    That makes her slightly less deserving of our sympathy. Good luck to her husband and her children and extended family. They're going to need it.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 6,047 ✭✭✭Da Shins Kelly


    You know, we saw the same thing when Philip Seymour Hoffman died. All this talk of how someone doesn't deserve sympathy if they use drugs. Drug use is very often symptomatic of something more serious. If someone hangs themselves or shoots themselves or jumps off a bridge, we get a whirlwind of sympathy from people talking about how mental health issues aren't taken seriously enough. We don't dismiss the issues of someone who chooses to end their life with a gun or a rope, but suddenly when a needle is involved, all sympathy goes out the window. It's a very funny society we live in. No matter how much people go on about how important mental health is, there is still this prevailing attitude of contempt where people don't understand and worse, don't care, about the issues that can lead to problems with drink and drugs.

    If only money had anything to do with mental health. It doesn't matter how well-educated you are or how much money you have, mental illness does not discriminate.

    I'm sad for Peaches and her family. Clearly she was not at peace with herself for whatever reason, and I feel bad for anyone in that struggle.


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 6,496 ✭✭✭Boombastic


    According to this herself and tom had a 'row' the last time together
    http://www.mirror.co.uk/3am/peaches-geldof-rowed-thomas-cohen-3493710


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 39 Poca Nose


    Magaggie wrote: »
    And I think the rest of what Hopkins has written, despite her being a professional sh1t-stirrer who probably doesn't believe half of what she says (she talks about being a cut above the masses... yet writes a column in The Sun for ****'s sake! :D) is quite eloquent and spot-on.

    Well, it's likely that underneath the hateful persona Katie Hopkins has constructed for public consumption is an intelligent woman. I don't believe she believes half of the stuff she comes out with.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,142 ✭✭✭Hitchens


    abusing heroin is basically a form of Russian Roulette


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 3,228 ✭✭✭mrsbyrne


    Hitchens wrote: »
    abusing heroin is basically a form of Russian Roulette

    I agree. I see this morning a sad story of a couple losing their second child to a terrible genetic illness. After suffering the agony of losing their daughter to the same condition they continued to nurse their son with dignity and quiet selfless devotion until his death earlier today.
    If we made these parents role models instead of the empty vaccuous airheads who spread themselves all over the media in shameless money hungry self promotion then the world would be a better place.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 4,512 ✭✭✭Muise...


    mrsbyrne wrote: »
    I agree. I see this morning a sad story of a couple losing their second child to a terrible genetic illness. After suffering the agony of losing their daughter to the same condition they continued to nurse their son with dignity and quiet selfless devotion until his death earlier today.
    If we made these parents role models instead of the empty vaccuous airheads who spread themselves all over the media in shameless money hungry self promotion then the world would be a better place.

    You're a divil for the mawkish moral tragedy aren't you? It must the flip-side of your bad mother-judging coin. :pac:

    "We" don't make role models. Individuals do, and some individuals are perfectly capable of ignoring the airheads in the media. Some individuals think the whole concept of role models, be they martyred saints or celebrity airheads, is only for feckless idiots. You seem to pay them a lot of mind though.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,315 ✭✭✭Soft Falling Rain


    JP Liz V1 wrote: »
    https://uk.celebrity.yahoo.com/news/katie-hopkins-hits-sympathising-peaches-geldof-death-following-151418214.html


    Katie Hopkins on Twitter: "If Peaches was a mother on benefits living on a council estate, would you all still be wearing your 'right on' badge with such pride?"
    She then said: "*trots off to get degree in drug use in order to be allowed an opinion*" (sic)
    Explaining why she'd decided not to tweet her condolences following the tragic death Hopkins wrote in her weekly Sun column earlier this month, referencing her clash with Peaches on ITV's This Morning about parenting styles: "Peaches and I met once, on a TV sofa in central London. We were strangers and remained adversaries.
    "Peaches didn’t want a tweet from me. She didn’t welcome it in life. She certainly didn’t need it in death. She was tough enough not to seek approval from anyone. I admire that trait in others."
    Touching on Peaches' strained upbringing, she went on: "Growing up without a mum brought heartbreak into Peaches’ life. Her death threatens to do the same for her boys. History has done a terrible thing and repeated itself. When everything seems lost for one poor family, there is only dignity to hold on to and privacy to give. Sir Bob kept his dignity with words of raw despair."
    "I offer privacy with silence," she added. "Peaches didn’t need tweets from celebrities or strangers — she just needed a mother’s love."
    Bar the condescending mother comments, for once I don't have a problem with what Hopkins has to say here.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,472 ✭✭✭brooke 2


    Poca Nose wrote: »
    Well, it's likely than underneath the hateful persona Katie Hopkins has constructed for public consumption is an intelligent woman. I don't believe she believes half of the stuff she comes out with.

    Saw that much publicised spat between Peaches Geldof and Katie Hopkins on morning TV. Thought Peaches' behaviour a bit odd at the time. She never looked at the presenters during her 'forceful' argument with Hopkins but kept focusing on someone off camera as though she was being directed to keep up her attack on Hopkins. She reminded me of those Fox News women who have to keep shouting on those 'discussion' programmes with Sean Hannity or Bill O'Reilly.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 39 Poca Nose


    Muise... wrote: »
    "We" don't make role models. Individuals do, and some individuals are perfectly capable of ignoring the airheads in the media. Some individuals think the whole concept of role models, be they martyred saints or celebrity airheads, is only for feckless idiots. You seem to pay them a lot of mind though.

    Ì've never *got* the role model thing. Even as a child, I never had any celebrity role models. People in my own sphere, yes, but not high-profile people I didn't know.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 782 ✭✭✭Reiver


    Mother dies of drug overdose on a housing estate leaving kids behind her. Barely get a mention in the news and people will cluck their tongues about how selfish she was and how her death was inevitable. She'll be condemned.

    It happens to a rich socialite and suddenly the world is a darker place, the sun will never quite shine as bright and we're all poorer for the loss.

    I hate the media.


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 6,576 ✭✭✭Paddy Cow


    Poca Nose wrote: »
    Ì've never *got* the role model thing. Even as a child, I never had any celebrity role models. People in my own sphere, yes, but not high-profile people I didn't know.
    The closest I came to having a role model was thinking that MacGyver was the coolest person ever and wishing I could be as resourceful as him.


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