Peaches Geldof died due to heroin overdoseMOD NOTE: NO JOKES

02-05-2014 12:09AM

beks101 wrote: »

I agree, and how incredibly sad and tragic that she couldn't escape that same legacy herself.

That she couldn't overcome her own issues and she too succumbed to them, at the cost of her own life and her kids' lives and her family's future happiness.

I find that incredibly sad and don't understand this overwhelming reaction of 'what a selfish, selfish woman' - of course from an outside perspective that's how it seems, but that's to look at things from a rational, objective state of mind, which obviously the girl didn't have.

Who can ever know what kind of baggage and turmoil and emotional hell and addiction issues she could've been going through - a quick glance at her family history and personal history will tell you a LOT.

Is a bit of compassion completely out of the question?

No, no it's not. I wouldn't wish the tragedies that follow the Geldofs on anybody.

Most people know the name Geldof and without even thinking about it associate all the sad events they have been through. The Geldofs themselves must be reminded of this every day. It's sad that the family now have another generation who face the exact same issues.

Actually, as I type this I think it's time I let my opinion rest. May Peaches rest in peace. In years to come and as her children grow, I hope we can all (including the media) see them as individuals rather than "that tragic story". Break the cycle and hopefully they can all lead long, happy, healthy lives.

endacl · 02-05-2014 12:11AM

http://www.thejournal.ie/almost-640-drug-related-deaths-in-ireland-latest-figures-show-296280-Dec2011/

How come none of the 640 people from that article got their own thread?

mrsbyrne · 02-05-2014 12:12AM

Mince Pie wrote: »

Far enough away that they weren't aware of their daughter being abducted regardless of where they were. Eating at a table in what?

I just find it remarkable that its ok to pop out for some grub with your mates and thats not neglect but being found with your child is considering the report said heroin "played a part" and I stick by my earlier statement of losing a cousin and friend to heroin. They were in recovery but had heart attacks.

I really hoped that nothing would come of the toxicology reports because I knew it would turn into carnage judging by the last thread. Really harrowing reading.

I made no contribution to that thread.
The inquest today heard that the heroin was present in a large enough amount to contribute to Peaches death
Do you not agree that if she was high when her husband returned her younger child to her on Sunday afternoon , that he would have been unlikely to leave his son alone with an unfit mother? So we will say she was sober when he dropped the child off and left again.
So sometime after that she obviously ingested heroin, when she knew she was in sole charge of her infant. This is inexplicable.

Mince Pie · 02-05-2014 12:13AM

endacl wrote: »

http://www.thejournal.ie/almost-640-drug-related-deaths-in-ireland-latest-figures-show-296280-Dec2011/

How come none of the 640 people from that article got their own thread?

Why don't you start one?

yawhat! · 02-05-2014 12:16AM

Such a pretty girl, shame

user2012 · 02-05-2014 12:22AM

frostyjacks wrote: »

I knew this image of her as the perfect mum was hokum. She was no better than those skangers you see down the boardwalks. She was actually worse; being born into vast wealth and choosing to shoot it up her veins. At least the skangers don't try to pass themselves off as something they're not.

I've been following this thread & what you & others have posted is very nasty in my opinion. I can see both sides of the story but some posts are inappropriate.
I'm lucky in that I'm not addicted to any substance but there's nothing to say that in my future, or indeed my kids future, that things won't always work out the way I or they want. Personally I'm not into drugs but know a few that are users on a recreational level. By recreational I mean cannabis. Maybe they are doing more & I don't know.
I can totally understand people's point of view that given her mothers death, knowledge about the drug, love for her family etc, many reasons why she shouldn't have touched it but I'm very bewildered by some peoples opinion on her cause of death. I'm sure if she could turn back time & turn her back on heroin that she would.
I don't know if she was an addict, nor do any of ye. I don't know was it something she did once in a while, nor do ye.
If what we have seen of her in the media is anything to go by she was nothing but a very loving mother to her two boys. There's two little boys left without their mother over choices she made. She made the wrong choices & the penalty is being paid.
It's a very tragic situation whether she's a known media face or a young woman no one knows about.
Two little boys without a mother. That is sad.
What's even sadder is that it wasn't a heart attack, it wasn't an aneurism, it wasn't being hit by a bus. It was a choice she made to do whatever it is you do when taking heroin & it didn't work out as planned.
As a result she's dead, her surviving parent had to witness his child being buried, her husband is widowed & there's two little boys without their mother.
How very sad.
I sincerely hope I or my family will never fall into an addiction of some form or another.

Olive8585 · 02-05-2014 12:24AM

endacl wrote: »

http://www.thejournal.ie/almost-640-drug-related-deaths-in-ireland-latest-figures-show-296280-Dec2011/

How come none of the 640 people from that article got their own thread?

Maybe because they didn't all grow up in the public eye? And weren't famous? Just an idea.

Lucas Castroman · 02-05-2014 12:26AM

yawhat! wrote: »

Such a pretty girl, shame

So if she was ugly, it wouldn't be a shame.
You make me sick in my handbag.

jank · 02-05-2014 12:31AM

She is an idiot. What makes a person who has a young child and her whole life ahead of her go off and do some heroin. What a fool. Feel sorry for the child tbh but **** her.

Snake · 02-05-2014 12:37AM

certifiedcrepe wrote: »

MOD: Lay off the jokes please. There's other forums on Boards for that stuff but it ain't here.

There's forums to laugh at dead people? Well..

Mince Pie · 02-05-2014 12:37AM

This thread reads like the Daily Mail comments page.

Full inquest on 23rd of July. I'll bow out till then as its too depressing to read.

Snake · 02-05-2014 12:38AM

endacl wrote: »

http://www.thejournal.ie/almost-640-drug-related-deaths-in-ireland-latest-figures-show-296280-Dec2011/

How come none of the 640 people from that article got their own thread?

They weren't famous. It's the same thing as the Facebook R.I.P x y and z pages. The arguments an old one

frostyjacks · 02-05-2014 08:22AM

user2012 wrote: »

I've been following this thread & what you & others have posted is very nasty in my opinion. I can see both sides of the story but some posts are inappropriate.
I'm lucky in that I'm not addicted to any substance but there's nothing to say that in my future, or indeed my kids future, that things won't always work out the way I or they want. Personally I'm not into drugs but know a few that are users on a recreational level. By recreational I mean cannabis. Maybe they are doing more & I don't know.
I can totally understand people's point of view that given her mothers death, knowledge about the drug, love for her family etc, many reasons why she shouldn't have touched it but I'm very bewildered by some peoples opinion on her cause of death. quote]

You're bewildered? Really? This woman made money from pretending to be a doting mother. We've been conned. What's nastier? Venting your spleen online or doing hard drugs in the family home?

02-05-2014 08:36AM

Well the front of at least two papers today have gone with the headline "COPS HUNT FOR PEACHES DEALER". It's the Katy French saga all over again. If a pretty famous white woman od's, then we must find these evil b*stards who forced the drugs onto her... Otherwise, carry on.

pc7 · 02-05-2014 10:29AM

Dailymail (I know I know!) is now saying she was on methadone treatment and attending a local clinic for addiction but that her husband and dad didn't know. According to someone attending with her she was terrified her husband would find out and that her dad would go spare.

Ash.J.Williams · 02-05-2014 10:29AM

Next phase is a media witchhunt for the dealer

stickybookmark · 02-05-2014 11:43AM

mrsbyrne wrote: »

Olive here is a reliable newspaper account of what was said at the inquest today.
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/celebritynews/10801150/Peaches-Geldofs-body-found-by-husband-after-she-took-heroin.html

It sounds like her husband had taken the kids away for the weekend to his parents (could have been a row?) but she arranged for the younger one to be brought back. Why else would her Father in Law have dropped the younger son back to her on the Sunday evening?
So she had a babysitting option for the weekend but she specifically made an arrangement to have the baby brought back into her sole care. She must have known at 5pm when doing handover of the baby with his FIL that she either had already or was planning on, taking heroin but she didn't tell her FIL 'listen could you take the baby back, I'm not feeling well'. Utterly bizarre

mikom · 02-05-2014 12:04PM

Omackeral wrote: »

Well the front of at least two papers today have gone with the headline "COPS HUNT FOR PEACHES DEALER". It's the Katy French saga all over again. If a pretty famous white woman od's, then we must find these evil b*stards who forced the drugs onto her... Otherwise, carry on.

They'll probably just bust a few cannabis growhouses and declare the streets clean once more.

mrsbyrne · 02-05-2014 01:17PM

stickybookmark wrote: »

It sounds like her husband had taken the kids away for the weekend to his parents (could have been a row?) but she arranged for the younger one to be brought back. Why else would her Father in Law have dropped the younger son back to her on the Sunday evening?
So she had a babysitting option for the weekend but she specifically made an arrangement to have the baby brought back into her sole care. She must have known at 5pm when doing handover of the baby with his FIL that she either had already or was planning on, taking heroin but she didn't tell her FIL 'listen could you take the baby back, I'm not feeling well'. Utterly bizarre

Its inexplicable. There doesnt appear to have been a row. It seems this arrangement was in place to allow her to "work".
How this fitted in with the breastfeeding on demand and attachment parenting is anyones guess.
I dont want to appear nasty or vindictive or to speak ill of the dead, but she promoted herself as breastfeeding on demand, co-sleeping etc, she encouraged others to follow her and condemned other parenting styles.
This was dishonest and i hope that it teaches people not to swallow everything that they are being spoonfed by the media.

Ash.J.Williams · 02-05-2014 01:19PM

mrsbyrne wrote: »

Its inexplicable. There doesnt appear to have been a row. It seems this arrangement was in place to allow her to "work".
How this fitted in with the breastfeeding on demand and attachment parenting is anyones guess.
I dont want to appear nasty or vindictive or to speak ill of the dead, but she promoted herself as breastfeeding on demand, co-sleeping etc, she encouraged others to follow her and condemned other parenting styles.
This was dishonest and i hope that it teaches people not to swallow everything that they are being spoonfed by the media.

i doubt people actually listen to celeb parenting sh1ttalk?

hufpc8w3adnk65 · 02-05-2014 01:19PM

God help her children if she was breast feeding whilst on heroin!

johnwatt · 02-05-2014 01:20PM

poor children

mrsbyrne · 02-05-2014 01:35PM

Ash.J.Williams wrote: »

i doubt people actually listen to celeb parenting sh1ttalk?

People were hanging on her every word, it seems. She was ubiquitous across the TV, newspapers and magazines promoting her ideas on parenting for a while recently and getting paid good money for it too.
She had just been given her own column in a parenting magazine, but i dont think she'd even made a contribution before she died.

SEPT 23 1989 · 02-05-2014 01:41PM

MrMac84 wrote: »

God help her children if she was breast feeding whilst on heroin!

it would keep them quiet alright

iguana · 02-05-2014 02:03PM

mrsbyrne wrote: »

Its inexplicable. There doesnt appear to have been a row. It seems this arrangement was in place to allow her to "work".

What is anyone's guess. Regardless of what Peaches was actually doing, plenty of working mothers breastfeed and practice attachment parenting. I'm not sure how that's in any way a mystery.

mrsbyrne wrote: »

I dont want to appear nasty or vindictive or to speak ill of the dead, but she promoted herself as breastfeeding on demand,

She most certainly did not. She was very open about having weaned both her sons at 5 months. She gave the reason for this as a thyroid issue, though in hindsight perhaps it had something to do with her methadone/heroin use?

Pwindedd · 02-05-2014 02:07PM

Ash.J.Williams wrote: »

i doubt people actually listen to celeb parenting sh1ttalk?

No the people it's aimed at are usually up to their eyes in dirty nappies, and strung out on not enough sleep and more than enough coffee to listen to celebs giving them advice.

Parenting is a hotly debated topic and I've always found it best to keep any opinions to yourself for fear of them biting you on the arse. Which in this case it sadly seems to have done.

It's a sad affair and I've nothing but compassion for those caught up in it.

The question I'm left with though is if her mother had not died in pretty much exactly the same way would she have gone down this road. Was it a genetic predisposition to addiction, or a legacy that somehow haunted her and ironically took her down the same path. It's just such a waste. I'm not absolving her of the responsibility btw. She just paid the ultimate price for a bunch of wrong decisions.

AlanS181824 · 02-05-2014 02:10PM

That's terrible sad, so young, may she RIP.

Muise... · 02-05-2014 02:10PM

mrsbyrne wrote: »

People were hanging on her every word, it seems. She was ubiquitous across the TV, newspapers and magazines promoting her ideas on parenting for a while recently and getting paid good money for it too.
She had just been given her own column in a parenting magazine, but i dont think she'd even made a contribution before she died.

What people? People who read magazines and watch daytime TV? These are media for passing the time with some light items of casual interest, not life-manuals.

Sadderday · 02-05-2014 02:10PM

Maybe her husband was wide to her taking heroin and took the kids away for that reason ?

mikom · 02-05-2014 02:16PM

Muise... wrote: »

What people? People who read magazines and watch daytime TV? These are media for passing the time with some light items of casual interest, not life-manuals.

You underestimate the general public's lack of intelligence.
Shur Sex and the city was a life guide for many of the long lashed Celtic tiger cubs.

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Peaches Geldof died due to heroin overdoseMOD NOTE: NO JOKES