The Political Compass

Hotblack Desiato · 17-04-2014 9:11pm

bluewolf wrote: »

All we have to do is stop consuming from a particular company and they will be in trouble. We have the money and we can purchase or not purchase. And so they go above and beyond what's legally required and make offers and sales such as 365-day refunds for simple changes of mind as a very simple example.

All Ukraine has to do is stop buying gas from Putin, he will soon be in trouble and reduce the price, right?

Mark Hamill · 17-04-2014 9:30pm

bluewolf wrote: »

Do they?

Yes, obviously.

DazMarz · 17-04-2014 11:42pm

For the craic, I answered all the questions as extreme right-wing and all as I could... You will all BOW to me...

Then my real one... not as leftie nor nearly as libertarian as I thought I was...

PopePalpatine · 18-04-2014 12:23am

I wonder what the results would be in t'udder forum...I'm guessing a lot of them would be in the top quarter of the graph.

Benny_Cake · 18-04-2014 5:26am

PopePalpatine wrote: »

I wonder what the results would be in t'udder forum...I'm guessing a lot of them would be in the top quarter of the graph.

I may very well start a thread there.

I've always thought it was a bad idea to assume that A&A posters necessarily represent the views of atheists generally. The same goes for those who post in "t'udder forum". I've met atheists who were all over that map, although the majority would probably be somewhere in the bottom half.

My results were:

Economic Left/Right: -8.75
Social Libertarian/Authoritarian: -7.74

Which in American terms would probably put me somewhere to the left of Pol Pot! I thought I was a fairly wishy-washy sort of democratic socialist, but as I've grown older I think I've developed some anarchist leanings from seeing what power does to people.

robindch · 18-04-2014 8:40am

Economic Left/Right: -4.00
Social Libertarian/Authoritarian: -6.36

Should be "Liberal", not "Libertarian"!

Bannasidhe · 18-04-2014 9:38am

robindch wrote: »

Should be "Liberal", not "Libertarian"!

That word makes me wince too...although so does the American definition of 'Liberal'....

Brian Shanahan · 18-04-2014 10:15am

bluewolf wrote: »

The more I read about corporations and govt regulation and how it was failed monopolists trying to get more regulation to protect themselves, the more right I'm going.

You're seriously basing your economic ideas off one of the chief (non-dead) cheerleaders for the Chicago School for the Advancement of Bull**** and Lies? Especially after the 2008 crash and its aftermath (we have yet to see the second crash, the only logical result of using Friedman's ideas to solve the problems inherent in Friedman's ideas) has shown monetarist economics to be a worthless idea?

As regards the quiz, I took this a few years ago and came out -9.50/-9.00, so basically an Anarcho-Communist, this time I came out:

So I'm somewhat more authoritarian (probably because I answered Agree to the question "some criminals are incapable of rehabilitation", which statistically is the only correct answer, there are always going to be a small number of sociopaths who cannot exist under the rules necessary to maintain a civilisation), but on the other hand somewhat more left-wing. Of course as others have mentioned, the US bias of this quiz is evident in asking questions like "should large multinationals be regulated?" and giving the only logical answer "of course, corporations are too immoral to be left alone" a left wing bias.

wp_rathead · 18-04-2014 10:18am

Economic Left/Right: -6.50
Social Libertarian/Authoritarian: -6.82

18-04-2014 7:57pm

Economic Left/Right: -3.50
Social Libertarian/Authoritarian: -5.38

About where I expected to be, though it'll probably shift a square or two each time I do the test.

18-04-2014 8:05pm

Can't leave bluewolf all alone!

Turtwig · 18-04-2014 9:25pm

Weirdos with their right wing economics

Crucify them!
Crucify them!

pauldla · 19-04-2014 10:28am

I remember doing this before, but I can't remember my score. No matter. I like the group graph idea.

http://www.politicalcompass.org/printablegraph?ec=-4.88&soc=-5.90

Calibos · 19-04-2014 10:58am

Woah! Hold the horses. I entered my numbers into the group graph but it's not showing the correct numbers now and has me uber authoritarian centre left now. I was actually beside Gandhi centre left and just within the borders of libertarian.

Don't judge myself and blue wolf until you've heard our side of the story!

Bannasidhe · 19-04-2014 12:51pm

Calibos wrote: »

Don't judge myself and the true blue libertarian wolf until you've heard our side of the story!

FYP.

:pac:

Sulla Felix · 19-04-2014 4:17pm

Calibos wrote: »

Woah! Hold the horses. I entered my numbers into the group graph but it's not showing the correct numbers now and has me uber authoritarian centre left now. I was actually beside Gandhi centre left and just within the borders of libertarian.

Don't judge myself and blue wolf until you've heard our side of the story!

Decimals and/or positive/negative numbers?

oscarBravo · 19-04-2014 4:31pm

Economic Left/Right: -4.25
Social Libertarian/Authoritarian: -7.49

Blowfish · 20-04-2014 9:34am

Not as libertarian as I thought:

smacl · 20-04-2014 12:06pm

Pretty much in with the bunch but...

[Nerd alert]I'd be keen to see how the result is derived and how the questions are weighted. I suspect you can arrive at the same coordinate in many different ways, some comprised of many strong views often in opposition to one another, others by milder views in broad agreement. If each answer to each question has an individual coordinate position, the result is most likely the mean coordinate. Each answer then also has a distance to this mean coordinate, and this distance is very important. If the mean distance is large, it suggests the final position is a weak indication of the persons political leanings, whereas if it is small, it suggests a stronger indicator. For example, if you give a series of strong left leaning and strong right leaning answers, the mean suggests a position near the centre, which is very far from the truth. Note that distances are best broken down into horizontal and vertical components in this case to form an error ellipse. Like so much in statistics, considering the mean without the distribution may prove meaningless[/Nerd alert]

smacl · 20-04-2014 12:11pm

Calibos wrote: »

Don't judge myself and blue wolf until you've heard our side of the story!

No chance. Where's my pitchfork, assemble the lynch mob!

recedite · 20-04-2014 7:58pm

legspin wrote: »

As I get older I'm moving further left and libertarian. I expect to be completely in the bottom left box in about 5 years.

Benny_Cake wrote: »

..as I've grown older I think I've developed some anarchist leanings from seeing what power does to people.

I thought the conventional wisdom was that people got more right wing as they got older? As in "lefty students protesting at corporate greed", and then a few years later donning the suit and tie, and complaining about the irresponsible youth of the day.

recedite · 20-04-2014 8:58pm

Interesting that all EU goverments are listed in the top right blue square.
No wonder A&A are such a disgruntled lot.
And the toppest rightest political leader of them all is the former chairman of the "communist" :pac: party in China.

I got -4.75 economic and -1.38 social. When I saw the question about the death penalty I immediately thought of Larry Murphy (yeah, go for it), and that combined with my "eye for an eye" morality possibly makes me more of a fascist than others here, despite my having liberal views on most things.

Brian Shanahan · 20-04-2014 10:09pm

recedite wrote: »

I thought the conventional wisdom was that people got more right wing as they got older? As in "lefty students protesting at corporate greed", and then a few years later donning the suit and tie, and complaining about the irresponsible youth of the day.

Conventional wisdom is wrong. What actually happens is that the outline of your political views tends to solidify between you getting the vote and your mid twenties. So while you can change your opinion on specifics, if you're a leftie or a rightie early on, that is most probably where you're going to stay.

Turtwig · 20-04-2014 10:43pm

Updated graph.
Biscuits to the usual address.
Ta.

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Karl Stein · 20-04-2014 10:59pm

Economic Left/Right: -7.50
Social Libertarian/Authoritarian: -6.41

Garph (yes, garph)

DazMarz · 21-04-2014 12:01am

It's weird, I'm stunningly consistent with this test... I've taken it a good few times, and no matter how many times I take it (when I'm not taking the piss and giving deliberately "extreme" answers), I always end up in roughly the same area; a little left of centre, a little bit libertarian... not as leftie or as libertarian as I think myself, unless the test is lying to me!!! :eek:

legspin · 21-04-2014 12:48am

recedite wrote: »

I thought the conventional wisdom was that people got more right wing as they got older? As in "lefty students protesting at corporate greed", and then a few years later donning the suit and tie, and complaining about the irresponsible youth of the day.

Yes I had heard that. However, although I have always been fairly liberal in social outlook, economically I used to be much further to the right.

Turtwig · 21-04-2014 12:56am

recedite wrote: »

I thought the conventional wisdom was that people got more right wing as they got older? As in "lefty students protesting at corporate greed", and then a few years later donning the suit and tie, and complaining about the irresponsible youth of the day.

The conventional wisdom also tells people who don't want to have kids that they'll want to have kids somedays. It's the height of ignorance and arrogance, this conventional wisdom lark.

G.K. · 21-04-2014 1:15am

Feel I'm more economically right than the compass suggests.

Brian Shanahan · 21-04-2014 8:22am

Turtwig wrote: »

Updated graph.
Biscuits to the usual address.
Ta.

I think you have me a square too far down on the libertarian scale. I'm actually -10/-7.8 (the -9.5/-9 was an old reading).

Tordelback · 21-04-2014 8:44am

-7.88
-7.33

Fred Swanson · 21-04-2014 11:08am

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Bellatori · 26-04-2014 7:35pm

Economic Left/Right: -3.12
Social Libertarian/Authoritarian: -3.79

I think all us Ghandis should get together! It was quite amusing to find out how left of centre I now appear to be. It has come as somewhat of a surprise.!!

pauldla · 27-04-2014 2:15am

hate garphs

:mad:

jank · 27-04-2014 5:23am

10.0
-4.46

Interesting the majority clustering around the same spots.

Bellatori · 27-04-2014 8:08am

jank wrote: »

10.0
-4.46

Interesting the majority clustering around the same spots.

Probably because we answer as we believe we are and not as we are! Or to put it another way we all lie a lot!!

Sulla Felix · 27-04-2014 3:16pm

Bellatori wrote: »

Probably because we answer as we believe we are and not as we are! Or to put it another way we all lie a lot!!

It also depends a lot on the weighting. I usually self-identify as a libertarian when it comes to economic matter but I came in quite a bit to the left.

Brian Shanahan · 27-04-2014 8:25pm

Bellatori wrote: »

Probably because we answer as we believe we are and not as we are! Or to put it another way we all lie a lot!!

Lets just say that the graph is American biased, or in other words, the graph is assuming that the people that are answering it are far more to the right than people who think for themselves.

jank · 28-04-2014 1:23am

In other words people with right-wing leanings cannot think for themselves? A tad on unfair on GW, Bluewolf and Blowfish.

Turtwig · 28-04-2014 1:36am

It's bluewolf!

Jeez, get it right. :pac:

Turtwig · 28-04-2014 1:48am

Updated (with fixed Brian Shanahan)

Calibos and SW, clearly the odd ones out. :pac:

nagirrac · 28-04-2014 2:59am

Economic -4.5
Social -5.28

I would have seen myself as closer to the center on economic issues, but hey who am I to argue with myself.

pauldla · 28-04-2014 5:15am

nagirrac wrote: »

Economic -4.5
Social -5.28

I would have seen myself as closer to the center on economic issues, but hey who am I to argue with myself.

Add yourself to the crowd graph!

Brian Shanahan · 28-04-2014 11:13am

Turtwig wrote: »

Updated (with fixed Brian Shanahan)

Calibos and SW, clearly the odd ones out. :pac:

I think the graph means that SW is Stalin, gone so left he's turned up far right.

PopePalpatine · 28-04-2014 11:14am

Would Calibos be Trotsky, then? :pac:

Brian Shanahan · 28-04-2014 11:18am

PopePalpatine wrote: »

Would Calibos be Trotsky, then? :pac:

Not quite. Trotskyism would have been far less restrictive than Stalinism, that is, if Trotskyism had actaully adhered to its principles if a Trotskyist goverment ever got into power anywhere.

Penn · 28-04-2014 11:33am

Economic -3.25
Social -5.95

Added myself to the group graph, but buried under most other peoples names

Misty Moon · 28-04-2014 8:03pm

recedite wrote: »

I thought the conventional wisdom was that people got more right wing as they got older? As in "lefty students protesting at corporate greed", and then a few years later donning the suit and tie, and complaining about the irresponsible youth of the day.

I'm another one that has found that each time I do this (two or three times since it first came out) I move a bit further left and down. I think part of it comes from my being more inclined to say strongly agree/disagree, the older I get, instead of always being a bit wishy-washy with things. I remember being very surprised by how much further down I was between the first time doing it and the second time a few years later.

Economic left/right: -8.00
Social libertarian/totalitarian: -7.49

Sulla Felix · 28-04-2014 9:37pm

nagirrac wrote: »

Economic -4.5
Social -5.28

I would have seen myself as closer to the center on economic issues, but hey who am I to argue with myself.

Apparently I'm easily amused, but the bolded just broke me up. :pac:

Mr_A · 01-05-2014 1:24pm

Economic Left/Right: -6.25
Social Libertarian/Authoritarian: -3.23

Expected to be in that quadrant, but thought I'd be more central on the economic questions.

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