Have you ever been to a Michelin star restaurant?

Davarus Walrus · 23-04-2014 01:46PM

B.A._Baracus wrote: »

How is it ballling? :pac:

Take this .... its from one of Gordon Ramseys Resaurants. Are you saying you would pay good money for that?!?!

I get a sense of snobbery from this thread. If you think the amount of money for the portions you get is wrong you are "low brow" ... without a "sense of class" :pac:

That looks stunning. I'm sure it tastes amazing as well. As one plate of food in a meal that comprises of more than one course. I'd pay good money for that if I decided to visit the restaurant. You do realise it's about more than filling your belly, right?

RoboRat · 23-04-2014 01:50PM

I'm Irish, lived there for 30+ yrs, after 2 years here I know which I'd chose.

Empenadas, Malbec and Bife de chorizo.... I am actually slobbering :-)

phantom_lord · 23-04-2014 01:50PM

GenieOz wrote: »

Why do people seem offended that I think it's a rip off?

I don't think anyone is offended. It's just that your belief that they are the same standard as normal restaurants is complete nonsense.

GenieOz · 23-04-2014 01:54PM

phantom_lord wrote: »

I don't think anyone is offended. It's just that what you're saying about them being the same as normal restaurants is complete nonsense.

Every single michelin star restaurant was considered a 'normal' restaurant until critics agreed to give it an imaginary star.

czechlin · 23-04-2014 01:57PM

Sir Gallagher wrote: »

Whitefriar Grill on Aungier Street

Oh I must pop in there for dinner some day, I really liked their brunch menu. Yum!

phantom_lord · 23-04-2014 02:03PM

GenieOz wrote: »

Every single michelin star restaurant was considered a 'normal' restaurant until critics agreed to give it an imaginary star.

They don't pick them out of a hat.

I am pie · 23-04-2014 02:06PM

GenieOz wrote: »

Every single michelin star restaurant was considered a 'normal' restaurant until critics agreed to give it an imaginary star.

The only part of your statement which is incorrect is the word "imaginary", replace imaginary with "an internationally recognised award for food and service" and you would be correct.

In the same vain you could say that a football player is just a normal player until a committee of his peers award him a player of the year trophy. Celebrated and rewarded for excellence, just like a restaurant.

Or is your point here that you just don't like prizes and don't believe in celebrating excellence?

Lingua Franca · 23-04-2014 02:08PM

B.A._Baracus wrote: »

I get a sense of snobbery from this thread. If you think the amount of money for the portions you get is wrong you are "low brow" ... without a "sense of class" :pac:

You're using quotation marks but the only person to have used those phrases in this thread is you. You're misattributing attitudes and then saying that people are being snobs.

The people in favour of michelin star food have all admitted to going only once or very rarely as a treat for themselves because they really, really enjoy the experience and the food. The person claiming to have gone loads of times thinks that 80% all restaurants are like michelin starred ones.

Who's being snobby, again?

23-04-2014 02:09PM

I haven't been and I would be in no rush to one either. I don't like wine (especially red) and nothing annoys me more than not feeling satisfied after a meal. I'd much rather spend my money on a big feed and pints of porter.

My name is URL · 23-04-2014 02:10PM

http://www.theguardian.com/lifeandstyle/2011/dec/05/fat-duck-restaurant-noroviris-outbreak

A food poisoning outbreak at Heston Blumenthal's Fat Duck restaurant nearly three years ago was the biggest linked to norovirus contamination at a restaurant ever recorded, according to a report.

At least 240 people had gastroenteritis, with symptoms such as nausea, vomiting and diarrhoea, in the outbreak that caused the temporary closure of the Fat Duck in Bray, Berkshire. Contaminated oysters and handling of food by infected staff were said to be the likely causes.

frozenfrozen · 23-04-2014 02:11PM

My name is URL wrote: »

http://www.theguardian.com/lifeandstyle/2011/dec/05/fat-duck-restaurant-noroviris-outbreak

i'd say that wasn't nice

GenieOz · 23-04-2014 02:11PM

phantom_lord wrote: »

They don't pick them out of a hat.

No, but plenty of other restaurants have the same standards of service and food. If you don't believe that then fine, If you find it hard to believe that then ok. Doesn't really matter to me, enjoy paying for an experience you could get for much much less.

I am pie wrote: »

The only part of your statement which is incorrect is the word "imaginary", replace imaginary with "an internationally recognised award for food and service" and you would be correct.

In the same vain you could say that a football player is just a normal player until a committee of his peers award him a player of the year trophy. Celebrated and rewarded for excellence, just like a restaurant.

Or is your point here that you just don't like prizes and don't believe in celebrating excellence?

You know that's not the point, but considering how off the point you're going I see you aren't ever going to see it.

I am pie · 23-04-2014 02:18PM

GenieOz wrote: »

No, but plenty of other restaurants have the same standards of service and food. If you don't believe that then fine, If you find it hard to believe that then ok. Doesn't really matter to me, enjoy paying for an experience you could get for much much less.

You know that's not the point, but considering how off the point you're going I see you aren't ever going to see it.

It is precisely the point. These awards are for excellence, you don't share that criteria which doesn't matter much as the people who pay to go to these restaurants do. You claim that the quality is matched in other restaurants. It simply isnt-

The Backwards Man · 23-04-2014 02:19PM

phantom_lord wrote: »

They don't pick them out of a hat.

They pick them out of a locale. Take the US for example, they only rate three cities. Does that mean every other city only has crap restaurants??

jaja321 · 23-04-2014 02:22PM

The Michelin Star is based on quality, originality, and consistency... it's not given on a whim . Whether some people feel it's worth it or not is subjective, some I've been too have been in my opinion. Others not so much, even though food has been excellent.

By the way has anyone see 'Jiro dreams of sushi'? A 3 star, in a subway station with no toilet on site. Hardly pretentious. I would absolutely love to try it and would have no issue paying a high price to do so.

GenieOz · 23-04-2014 02:22PM

I am pie wrote: »

It is precisely the point. These awards are for excellence, you don't share that criteria which doesn't matter much as the people who pay to go to these restaurants do. You claim that the quality is matched in other restaurants. It simply isnt-

Right, until those other restaurants get this star. Is it only when they get that they're suddenly amazing?

I am pie · 23-04-2014 02:30PM

GenieOz wrote: »

Right, until those other restaurants get this star. Is it only when they get that they're suddenly amazing?

What a bizarre statement.

No, those restuarants which do not have a star are either:

1. Excellent, but not quite at the level of receiving a star.
2. Potentially about to be awarded a star.
3. At any one of a myriad of different levels from awful to extremely good.

can't you grasp the idea that the star is an award? receiving it does not change the performance of the restaurant, it rewards it for performance over time? Is that so difficult?

And, yes, sometimes the pressure of the award is too much and the restaurant loses it's star, sometimes they feel like they've made it and the lose their star through failing to maintain levels required.

It's a simple concept, "consistent excellence = award" and not "get award = becomes awesome."

I know five year olds that get that concept?

I am pie · 23-04-2014 02:32PM

The Backwards Man wrote: »

They pick them out of a locale. Take the US for example, they only rate three cities. Does that mean every other city only has crap restaurants??

No, it means those restuarants are quite possibly candidates for a star or not yet reaching the level of excellence required.

There seems to be a misconception that not having a star precludes a place from being excellent. It certainly does not, it just means they are not recognised as being at the level of excellence which merits a star.

phantom_lord · 23-04-2014 02:35PM

GenieOz wrote: »

No, but plenty of other restaurants have the same standards of service and food. If you don't believe that then fine, If you find it hard to believe that then ok. Doesn't really matter to me, enjoy paying for an experience you could get for much much less.

There's places likes the Greenhouse that are excellent, have no star, but are in the same price range. If you know of places at an average price point with the food and service of Chapter One or Guilbaud's I'm all ears!

Ann Landers · 23-04-2014 02:38PM

Cantremember wrote: »

You don't go to these sort of restaurants for a feed. **** off to supermacs for that. You go to appreciate the craft of cooking and the symphony of service, quality ingredients, superb cooking skills married to the best wine with the meal. It's an experience like a West End musical, El Classico or great opera. If you don't understand any of this **** off to supermacs.

Yes, there's no middle ground.

Lingua Franca · 23-04-2014 02:40PM

Paul Rankin in Belfast made the decision a load of years ago to stop trying for a star with his restaurant Roscoffs after getting passed over a few times. He shut down and rebranded it as Cayenne. The food was exactly the same , he'd just taken the pressure of trying to achieve a star off himself.

Deanes, on the other hand, had a star and lost it and keep trying as hard as they can to get it back.

Not having the stars doesn't make a restaurant awful. It just means that they weren't up to the standard required for the award. Of course, if you think that all restaurants are of the same standard then it's not surprising that you would think the awards are arbitrary.

osarusan · 23-04-2014 02:43PM

No, never, but there is a place about 30 minutes away that has 1 star, and I'm thinking about taking my wife there one day...mainly so I can make daily comments afterwards about how I take her to the finest restaurants and she's still not happy, but also because it's only about 50quid a head for dinner, which seems to be very good value for a michelin-starred restaurant.

The Backwards Man · 23-04-2014 02:45PM

I am pie wrote: »

No, it means those restuarants are quite possibly candidates for a star or not yet reaching the level of excellence required.

There seems to be a misconception that not having a star precludes a place from being excellent. It certainly does not, it just means they are not recognised as being at the level of excellence which merits a star.

They will never get a star because they aren't in a location where Michelin gives stars, regardless of how good they are.

dandyo · 23-04-2014 02:48PM

Have been to 4 3 Star Restaurants
2 2 Star Restaurants and
3 1 Star Restaurants

Worth every penny in my opinion, but I guess it's not for everyone

B.A._Baracus · 23-04-2014 02:48PM

Lingua Franca wrote: »

You're using quotation marks but the only person to have used those phrases in this thread is you. You're misattributing attitudes and then saying that people are being snobs.

The people in favour of michelin star food have all admitted to going only once or very rarely as a treat for themselves because they really, really enjoy the experience and the food. The person claiming to have gone loads of times thinks that 80% all restaurants are like michelin starred ones.

Who's being snobby, again?

well, do you own a monocle? :pac:

GenieOz · 23-04-2014 02:49PM

I am pie wrote: »

I know five year olds that get that concept?

:rolleyes:

and that's about all I'll be responding to you when you have to finish off your argument with that kind of statement.

I am pie · 23-04-2014 02:51PM

GenieOz wrote: »

:rolleyes:

and that's about all I'll be responding to you when you have to finish off your argument with that kind of statement.

Sensitive soul. I'll miss your inability to comprehend what an award is for. Terribly.

Lingua Franca · 23-04-2014 03:07PM

B.A._Baracus wrote: »

well, do you own a monocle? :pac:

You could always just pretend I said I did.

B.A._Baracus · 23-04-2014 03:11PM

Lingua Franca wrote: »

You could always just pretend I said I did.

Or I could wipe my ass with your opinion

Hmmm, choices, choices :pac:

Lingua Franca · 23-04-2014 03:13PM

You already showed that you wipe your ass with opinions when you had to invent them to take offence at them.

Have you ever been to a Michelin star restaurant?

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