Cities you'd never return to

bmwguy · 20-04-2014 06:55PM

Liverpool. Must be the biggest kip in the world and such annoying locals. Taxi driver asked us if we were blues or reds when we got in before even asking where we were going. We werent there for a match. Every bar we drank in had lads coming in selling fake t shirts, dvds etc. Late night bars had metal detectors going in to them. Dump.

ThirdMan · 20-04-2014 07:05PM

Spring Onion wrote: »

The Gardaí do not want to know. Maybe they don't have the prisons to cope but something needs to be done.

Maybe, just maybe, prison isn't the solution.

ThirdMan · 20-04-2014 07:06PM

RahenyD5 wrote: »

The drug clinics and council housing should be moved outside to somewhere like Tallaght & Clondalkin, making Dublin 1 possibly almost crime-free and more attractive for tourism. This suggestion may be controversial, but what is the best way to clean up Dublin 1?

Also forcibly shut down Dr Quirkeys and relocate burger bars to Talbot St & Parnell St to deter troublesome youths from O'Connell St.

No, not even remotely. Just old, and boring.

Wacker The Attacker · 20-04-2014 07:07PM

mohawk wrote: »

LA it is literally just a concrete sprawl. There is no centre to it and is surprisingly rundown and ugly.

When I went on my J1 we went to San Fran the first couple of days you are shocked by all the homeless people after that you don't even see them anymore choose to continue ignoring them.

fyp

Wacker The Attacker · 20-04-2014 07:09PM

I'm not a big fan of Belfast

Daveysil15 · 20-04-2014 07:10PM

bmwguy wrote: »

Liverpool. Must be the biggest kip in the world and such annoying locals. Taxi driver asked us if we were blues or reds when we got in before even asking where we were going. We werent there for a match. Every bar we drank in had lads coming in selling fake t shirts, dvds etc. Late night bars had metal detectors going in to them. Dump.

Jesus that can't be a good sign. That's a bit like some of the schools they have in America.

unichick · 20-04-2014 07:10PM

Malta - unfriendly people & not much to do
Manchester - felt a bit unsafe & not a pretty city
Belfast - unfriendly people. People seemed to be amazed we were visiting from the South. A riot occurred during our visit, not caused by us! I was surprised how run down a city it was.

Wacker The Attacker · 20-04-2014 07:12PM

unichick wrote: »

Malta - unfriendly people & not much to do
Manchester - felt a bit unsafe & not a pretty city
Belfast - unfriendly people. People seemed to be amazed we were visiting from the South. A riot occurred during our visit, not caused by us! I was surprised how run down a city it was.

The second dreariest kip ever

Birroc · 20-04-2014 07:18PM

Wacker The Attacker wrote: »

I'm not a big fan of Belfast

Yeah I have visited Belfast many times with work over the past 20 years and I never liked it. It has improved but there is still something menacing about the place/people. I would like to see the Titanic museum though.

wotzgoingon · 20-04-2014 07:20PM

Birroc wrote: »

Yeah I have visited Belfast many times with work over the past 20 years and I never liked it. It has improved but there is still something menacing about the place/people. I would like to see the Titanic museum though.

There is nothing to do in Belfast. Only one of two shopping centres in the city centre, there wasn't even a Mac donalds, there was a burger king though.

Joe Doe · 20-04-2014 07:20PM

brooke 2 wrote: »

Brisbane - ugly and soulless. Could not get out of it fast enough!
The bridge is an eyesore!!

Agree brissy and cairns are both fairly boring, entire downtown shuts at 5, lots of red necks, freaks, and weirdos.

Sydney however is probably the best urban area on the planet with x17 or so beaches, not bad! Melbo is fairly fine, but tires quickly.

Larry Wildman · 20-04-2014 07:24PM

Melbourne is overrated - There a quasi snobbery about Melbourne vs Sydney where "those in the know" slate the latter.

Sydney is a great spot...a reallly beautiful city.

Some harsh comments re Dubai too...yes it's glitzy but it's tough to beat for some guaranteed winter sun and not too bad a flight.

Ann Landers · 20-04-2014 07:27PM

Wacker The Attacker wrote: »

I'm not a big fan of Belfast

Awww, I love Belfast! Apart from everywhere being closed by 1.30am. :mad:

Joe Doe · 20-04-2014 07:31PM

unichick wrote: »

Malta - unfriendly people & not much to do
Manchester - felt a bit unsafe & not a pretty city
Belfast - unfriendly people. People seemed to be amazed we were visiting from the South. A riot occurred during our visit, not caused by us! I was surprised how run down a city it was.

Malta - probably the friendliest most helpful people ever, also rated the world's happiest people in recent surveys, sun, sea, surf, cheap, some more sunshine. x30+ bars/clubs all in one lively place in St Juls'.

Belfast - The outsides are run down, the center/south is fine. One thing you notice compared to Dublin is that its cleaner, cheaper, the public services/transport much better and the public toilets are never occupied with streams of junkies. There is a theory though that the further away from the sun you go the more 'edgier or short-tempered' people become.

carlmango11 · 20-04-2014 07:42PM

Joe Doe wrote: »

There is a theory though that the further away from the sun you go the more 'edgier or short-tempered' people become.

Can you explain what this means?

Joe Doe · 20-04-2014 07:58PM

carlmango11 wrote: »

Can you explain what this means?

Not scientific fact per say, but a lack of sunshine (inc nutrients derived from it) and heat == Genetically slightly grumpier people with higher tendencies towards focus on a base primal survival mode, rather than say (towards Maslow's mid/higher pyramid elevation) focus on social interactions and self-actualisation.

e.g.
Land at an airport in St.Johns (NF), Moscow or Glasgow.
Then land in one anywhere in the Caribbean, Fiji or Hawai.

Ann Landers · 20-04-2014 08:02PM

I'd imagine salaries are a lot lower in Belfast to match the lower cost of living. Transport is about the same in both cities.

unichick · 20-04-2014 08:07PM

Two examples of unfriendliness in Valetta, Malta

Bought an umbrella & it was faulty. Brought it back, shopkeeper refused to give a refund. It was literally falling apart. Had to change it for another one. She had a face on her & was not nice to any tourists when I was in the shop.

My husband bought the wrong bus ticket type. Innocent mistake. We tried to explain this to ticket inspector. She threatened to throw us off the bus. No allowance for being tourists at all.

I imagined Belfast to be as nice as Dublin but was sorely disappointed. Even the city centre seemed run down.

zetalambda · 20-04-2014 08:15PM

Dublin because it's a festering hive of inbred scum and villainy. It's a mediocre capital city and basically just a culchie outpost on the western fringes of Europe that nobody other than Dubliners gives a shite about. :pac:

LivingDeadGirl · 20-04-2014 08:18PM

Toronto and Boston, both so soulless.

beano345 · 20-04-2014 08:23PM

LivingDeadGirl wrote: »

Toronto and Boston, both so soulless.

I loved Toronto but wouldn't return for the simple reason of it being way too expensive!

road_high · 20-04-2014 08:25PM

Ann Landers wrote: »

I'd imagine salaries are a lot lower in Belfast to match the lower cost of living. Transport is about the same in both cities.

Never got the comparison between Dublin and Belfast. Belfast has the look and feel of a small provincial city. Dublin for all it's flaws feels like a big city with all the problems and opportunities to match. There's just so much more to Dublin. The likes of Googles etc that flock to Dublin, don't seem to want to touch Belfast with a bargepole...apart from a bit of tourism, government admin (paid for by the Brits of course), and remnants of industry, there's not much going on. If the Uk ever pulls the plug the place is fcuked....

Red Pepper · 20-04-2014 08:28PM

Joe Doe wrote: »

Not scientific fact per say, but a lack of sunshine (inc nutrients derived from it) and heat == Genetically slightly grumpier people with higher tendencies towards focus on a base primal survival mode, rather than say (towards Maslow's mid/higher pyramid elevation) focus on social interactions and self-actualisation.

e.g.
Land at an airport in St.Johns (NF), Moscow or Glasgow.
Then land in one anywhere in the Caribbean, Fiji or Hawai.

Yes, I get you. There was more chance of the vikings raiders coming from Scandinavia than from the Med.

Red Pepper · 20-04-2014 08:28PM

zetalambda wrote: »

Dublin because it's a festering hive of inbred scum and villainy. It's a mediocre capital city and basically just a culchie outpost on the western fringes of Europe that nobody other than Dubliners gives a shite about. :pac:

The Dubliners have stopped giving a ****e about their own city many years ago given the sorry state it has become.

crockholm · 20-04-2014 08:30PM

LivingDeadGirl wrote: »

Toronto and Boston, both so soulless.

You know, I loved Boston as a city,the way it blends the new and old Worlds,the architecture and it's wonderful setting-the people however were the most unfriendly and unhelpful Americans I have ever met.Surly lot-I would go back though:o

Zed Bank · 20-04-2014 08:30PM

Kilkenny.

RahenyD5 · 20-04-2014 08:32PM

Dublin needs someone in charge to put the city first and sort out the poor state of Dublin 1. There is talk about a directly elected mayor for Dublin, is this happening and are Dubliners getting a vote on this?

Red Pepper · 20-04-2014 08:34PM

RahenyD5 wrote: »

Dublin needs someone in charge to put the city first and sort out the poor state of Dublin 1. There is talk about a directly elected mayor for Dublin, is this happening and are Dubliners getting a vote on this?

Nope, one of the councils essentially vetoed the vote. There should have been uproar.

Joe Doe · 20-04-2014 08:36PM

road_high wrote: »

Never got the comparison between Dublin and Belfast. Belfast has the look and feel of a small provincial city. Dublin for all it's flaws feels like a big city with all the problems and opportunities to match. There's just so much more to Dublin. The likes of Googles etc that flock to Dublin, don't seem to want to touch Belfast with a bargepole...apart from a bit of tourism, government admin (paid for by the Brits of course), and remnants of industry, there's not much going on. If the Uk ever pulls the plug the place is fcuked....

True it's not a real international city by any means, but believe me if the North was ever zoned to 12.5% corp tax the 'Googles' would be on the 1st bus to avail of a workforce all at 50% discount. They might even re-open the shipyards or re-build DeLoreans again

DrAngry · 20-04-2014 08:44PM

Surprised with all the Budapest hate. There and Baku would be my favourite places.

Wouldn't go back to Madrid in a hurry. It's like a normal dirty smelly city but hotter in a bad way.

Cities you'd never return to

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