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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 4,221 ✭✭✭A_Sober_Paddy


    I wish to adopt you, where do I apply? Mine are profligate fcukers that seem to be under the impression I'm a millionaire despite my best efforts to claim poverty.

    It seems I'm 1 in a million in this regard...I told one of the girls in work this a while back to which she said that her 30 year daughter still need money off her on a regular basis...I just felt that It was a responsible approach from me, as i know my parents are pretty poor with money to be honest, rarely would they put their foot down and say no, on a regular basis


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 44,079 ✭✭✭✭Micky Dolenz


    keith16 wrote: »
    Do you know what annoys me about savings?

    It's my money that I choose to save. This is money I take from my salary. A salary which is taxed quiet a bit.

    So these savings from my net pay go into an account.

    Last month, I earned approx 300 euro in interest on my savings. This money was taxed. I lost around 140 to DIRT. I think this is lousy.

    If I spend money, it is taxed.
    If I earn money , it is taxed.
    If I save money, it is taxed.

    I realise this is a simple assessment of things, but it's annoying me. I wish the gov would at least stay out of my bank account.

    That is the price you pay for living in the 1st world.


  • Moderators, Business & Finance Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 51,685 Mod ✭✭✭✭Stheno


    monflat wrote: »
    Ah surw.tis great these days on the dole. People can actually save money.
    Theres another.thread on AH where a fella on the dole bought a 141 focus.

    I must go now . Working tomorrow.
    Where 1500 of my monthly wages goes on taxes.

    God would i be better on the dole=.YES
    BUT i wont get dole if i " leave" my job.





    I.

    I prefer to think of how many people my tax supports

    It's 814e per month in taxes to pay one person 188e of dole per week


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,303 ✭✭✭Temptamperu


    Lads save nothing dont buy a house and get in as much debt as you can! it cant follow you below the sod you know.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,435 ✭✭✭Stavros Murphy


    keith16 wrote: »
    Do you know what annoys me about savings?

    It's my money that I choose to save. This is money I take from my salary. A salary which is taxed quiet a bit.

    So these savings from my net pay go into an account.

    Last month, I earned approx 300 euro in interest on my savings. This money was taxed. I lost around 140 to DIRT. I think this is lousy.

    If I spend money, it is taxed.
    If I earn money , it is taxed.
    If I save money, it is taxed.

    I realise this is a simple assessment of things, but it's annoying me. I wish the gov would at least stay out of my bank account.
    Then you die, and what you leave is taxed..:(


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 4,221 ✭✭✭A_Sober_Paddy


    monflat wrote: »
    Ah surw.tis great these days on the dole. People can actually save money.
    Theres another.thread on AH where a fella on the dole bought a 141 focus.

    I must go now . Working tomorrow.
    Where 1500 of my monthly wages goes on taxes.

    God would i be better on the dole=.YES
    BUT i wont get dole if i " leave" my job.





    I.

    Yes the dole is certainly too high if you've no dependents i was able to live quite comfortable...thankfully I've off tomorrow not back until Tuesday:D
    Lads save nothing dont buy a house and get in as much debt as you can! it cant follow you below the sod you know.

    I'm a fella for the record


  • Moderators, Business & Finance Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 51,685 Mod ✭✭✭✭Stheno


    Yes the dole is certainly too high if you've no dependents i was able to live quite comfortable...thankfully I've off tomorrow not back until Tuesday:D

    Just out of curiosity what are your outgoings now ref

    Rent
    Food
    ESB/GAS/Rubbish/Internet
    Socialising


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,435 ✭✭✭Stavros Murphy


    This thread is a bit "where did you shyte last??", or is that just me?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,037 ✭✭✭Plazaman


    *Adjusts Monocle.

    Haha, peasants. When I started work many moons ago I opened up a credit union account and got a direct debit of £5 now €5 per week into it. I'm sure there must be a couple of thou in there now. Although I did invest in Valkrainian Zlotys as a currency speculation which I think may have either increased in value or have disappeared off the face of the earth.

    Still, no pain, no gain.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,490 ✭✭✭monflat


    Stheno wrote: »
    Just out of curiosity what are your outgoings now ref

    Rent
    Food
    ESB/GAS/Rubbish/Internet
    Socialising



    He does not socialise sure he has 4k in savings.
    Rent= 25e a week 10 of em living together
    Bills 50
    Socialising = 0 .00

    Savings = 69 e per week


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,490 ✭✭✭monflat


    This thread is a bit "where did you shyte last??", or is that just me?



    Two things spring to mind


    Peel an orange in his pocket

    Tight as a ducks arse ....


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 5,977 ✭✭✭SCOOP 64


    monflat wrote: »
    Ah surw.tis great these days on the dole. People can actually save money.
    Theres another.thread on AH where a fella on the dole bought a 141 focus.

    I must go now . Working tomorrow.
    Where 1500 of my monthly wages goes on taxes.

    God would i be better on the dole=.YES
    BUT i wont get dole if i " leave" my job.

    On a other thread on AH a couple months back, a bloke works opp dole office, all he sees allday is brand new cars, some are Ferrari's, Porsche's out side dole office people signing on ,don't know if its true or not.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 4,221 ✭✭✭A_Sober_Paddy


    Lads save nothing dont buy a house and get in as much debt as you can! it cant follow you below the sod you know.
    Stheno wrote: »
    Just out of curiosity what are your outgoings now ref

    Rent
    Food
    ESB/GAS/Rubbish/Internet
    Socialising


    At the moment

    Rent €260(a month)
    Food €350(a month)*
    Bills €85(a month)
    Socializing €500(a month)*

    *estimated, they are different month to month...But I try and make it all my LOI teams home games and away games that work allows, recently I've been heading out twice a week of late, been at a few gigs too of late also included my gym membership and cinema visits which a quiet frequent

    I've not been keeping a budget for the last few months like i used too but i'll be starting again soon


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 4,221 ✭✭✭A_Sober_Paddy


    monflat wrote: »
    He does not socialise sure he has 4k in savings.
    Rent= 25e a week 10 of em living together
    Bills 50
    Socialising = 0 .00

    Savings = 69 e per week

    I'm currently working no longer on the dole, live with one mate in the city centre apartment


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,490 ✭✭✭monflat


    SCOOP 64 wrote: »
    On a other thread on AH a couple months back, a bloke works opp dole office, all he sees allday is brand new cars, some are Ferrari's, Porsche's
    out side dole office people signing on ,don't know if its true or not.



    Sure it probably is op is only a few yrs on the savings acc oh sorry dole .
    So if he had another few yrs on dole there could be a possibility of purchasing
    But he rather see his money pile high.


  • Moderators, Business & Finance Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 51,685 Mod ✭✭✭✭Stheno


    At the moment

    Rent €260(a month)
    Food €350(a month)*
    Bills €85(a month)
    Socializing €500(a month)*

    *estimated, they are different month to month...But I try and make it all my LOI teams home games and away games that work allows, recently I've been heading out twice a week of late, been at a few gigs too of late also included my gym membership and cinema visits which a quiet frequent

    I've not been keeping a budget for the last few months like i used too but i'll be starting again soon

    That totals ups to €1195 per month which I assume you were not spending on the dole

    350e per month on food is shocking imo for one person!

    Your rent and bills however are very low, those would be next to impossible in Dublin even in a rented room in a house, so you are on a low cost base compared to about a third of the population who live in Dublin

    Makes a good case for introducing a differential for the greater Dublin area

    Do you still live at home?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,195 ✭✭✭✭Captain Chaos


    For me that would be.

    Rent €950 pm
    Food €400 pm
    Bills €200 pm
    Socializing €50 pm

    That's one person living in Dublin.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,608 ✭✭✭Chareth Cutestory


    €520 a month for a 2 bed city centre apartment?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 4,221 ✭✭✭A_Sober_Paddy


    Stheno wrote: »
    That totals ups to €1195 per month which I assume you were not spending on the dole

    350e per month on food is shocking imo for one person!

    Your rent and bills however are very low, those would be next to impossible in Dublin even in a rented room in a house, so you are on a low cost base compared to about a third of the population who live in Dublin

    Makes a good case for introducing a differential for the greater Dublin area

    Do you still live at home?

    City centre apartment, food is only an estimation, i eat a lot of nuts i could spend €30 a week on nuts as i said its an estimation, i also enjoy a couple of fillet steaks too


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,490 ✭✭✭monflat


    €520 a month for a 2 bed city centre apartment?



    What city thou ? Waterford ? Cork ? Galway ?
    At that price its not dublin


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 4,221 ✭✭✭A_Sober_Paddy


    monflat wrote: »
    What city thou ? Waterford ? Cork ? Galway ?
    At that price its not dublin

    Limerick...Sorry i just assumed my location was visible


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 360 ✭✭Olive8585


    City centre apartment, food is only an estimation, i eat a lot of nuts i could spend €30 a week on nuts as i said its an estimation, i also enjoy a couple of fillet steaks too

    Well, anyone could save loads if they were paying that little rent. Most people have no option but to pay 2 or 3 times what you pay. My rent is well over 50% of my take home pay.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 4,221 ✭✭✭A_Sober_Paddy


    Olive8585 wrote: »
    Well, anyone could save loads if they were paying that little rent. Most people have no option but to pay 2 or 3 times what you pay. My rent is well over 50% of my take home pay.

    Understood, but in saying that my mates who are poor with money, are paying rent in the same region(or lower) than me


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,240 ✭✭✭Kaizersoze81


    Olive8585 wrote: »
    Well, anyone could save loads if they were paying that little rent. Most people have no option but to pay 2 or 3 times what you pay. My rent is well over 50% of my take home pay.

    nobody should be paying over 50% of their take home pay on rent. You need to move somewhere cheaper


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,240 ✭✭✭Kaizersoze81


    Why are the poll results hidden?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,490 ✭✭✭monflat


    Understood, but in saying that my mates who are poor with money, are paying rent in the same region(or lower) than me



    Do your mates go out and spend a monthly budget on socislising like u do ?

    Whats your DEFINITION OF POOR ??
    Someone with no savings or someone of savings less than 4k ?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 4,221 ✭✭✭A_Sober_Paddy


    monflat wrote: »
    Do your mates go out and spend a monthly budget on socislising like u do ?

    Whats your DEFINITION OF POOR ??
    Someone with no savings or someone of savings less than 4k ?

    Someone who works 42 hours a week and is in overdraft 90% of his time, i don't know where there money goes, as I start i'll be starting budget myself a little bitter and recording it too


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,881 ✭✭✭Ah-Watch


    Are the results hidden for everyone yeah?

    I'm out of college a year and a half and paid my way through for absolutely everything and I mean everything bar my registration fees which the parents paid. I paid for rent, books, food, bills , every type of transportation inc car tax insurance (yeah maybe say it's not a necessity but it kinda was for where I went to college and the car was 12 years old ) any extra help such as grinds etc. I think it gave me a good grasp on supporting myself financially in life. I worked 1 day a week at €69.20 and still put myself through college somehow. A year and a half on I have into 5 figures saved. I live down the country so haven't high rents to be paid that you'd have in Dublin, but that's luck really.

    I see a lot of my friends saying they're broke but they're out the whole time or throwing it away stupidly. I'm not tight when it comes to spending, I go to the pub one night minimum every week and probably the cinema once every fortnight or three weeks but save what I can so I can go travelling in the near future. Even putting a few bob aside every week will help with a rainy day and it baffles me to see ppl just live paycheck to paycheck -some have to yeah and others don't. At the moment I'll save to do the things I want to do like travelling before I'm bled dry in years to come by a wife and kids ha


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,490 ✭✭✭monflat


    Someone who works 42 hours a week and is in overdraft 90% of his time, i don't know where there money goes, as I start i'll be starting budget myself a little bitter and recording it too

    Ur workin all that ??
    Ur in overdraft ?

    I dont believe it


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 4,221 ✭✭✭A_Sober_Paddy


    monflat wrote: »
    Ur workin all that ??
    Ur in overdraft ?

    I dont believe it

    My mate is, i had to loan him money for rent last week


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