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Will you wear an Easter Lily ?

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 634 ✭✭✭Míshásta


    No.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,192 ✭✭✭Sound of Silence


    I'm a Nationalist and I won't be wearing one. I just don't get why these pins or badges need to exist.

    Like, who perpetuated the notion that we like wearing stickers and badges so much? It's my firm belief that this is all a conspiracy concocted by those charity bucket-shakers you see standing in the street. They love stickers way too much.


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 216 ✭✭Tommy Dillon


    I would if i could get my hands on one...
    Where would you get one and why arent they sold more widely?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,638 ✭✭✭Teyla Emmagan


    Oh well, it's painful, and obvious, but beats the 'why aren't the pubs open on Good Friday' thread.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,442 ✭✭✭Sulla Felix


    What flower is available all year round though as WOI went on for two years more or less??
    Is it not accepted that easter rising and executions after it gave rise and strengthing the movement for Irish independence/republicanism?

    So what would you prefer to see?
    Bit of grass wrapped in baling twine, be grand. Or else pick a flower in bloom when the treaty was signed, or when the first hostile shot was fired. Poppies aren't in bloom the whole year either so they picked a day ( was it ww1 v-day? ) and went with it to represent the whole war.

    The fallout from the ER was a happy accident. If rather than being captured they'd all, say died of wounds after a long convalescence, or if instead of being executed, had been deported or put to work doing hard labour, it's doubtful that support would have been galvanized for the movement as readily as it was.


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  • Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 12,622 Mod ✭✭✭✭Amirani


    I would if i could get my hands on one...
    Where would you get one and why arent they sold more widely?

    Just buy a bunch of lilies, break one off and sellotape/staple it to yourself.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 23,646 ✭✭✭✭qo2cj1dsne8y4k


    I will to be sure. Wear one every year. Usually just wear those paper ones, have about 100 of them at home in an envelope but our local Sinn Fein councillor is selling nice pins so I might get one of those this year. Splash out like


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 23,646 ✭✭✭✭qo2cj1dsne8y4k


    I would if i could get my hands on one...
    Where would you get one and why arent they sold more widely?

    If you want me to send you some pm me! I have a hape of them.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,479 ✭✭✭Notorious97


    Was waiting for this thread to pop up as it always does!

    Anyway, yes i will be wearing one as i have done for as long as i can remember.

    I for one am very proud and grateful of the sacrifices of brave irish men and women who fought and died for our country during the easter rising and also the war of independance.

    Each to their own but thats my comment.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 16,250 ✭✭✭✭Iwasfrozen


    Was waiting for this thread to pop up as it always does!

    Anyway, yes i will be wearing one as i have done for as long as i can remember.

    I for one am very proud and grateful of the sacrifices of brave irish men and women who fought and died for our country during the easter rising and also the war of independance.

    Each to their own but thats my comment.
    How does your employer feel about this?


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 24,608 ✭✭✭✭arybvtcw0eolkf


    I've been wearing the same pin for over 30 years.

    I'll also pay my respects to our patriot dead with my annual visit (with my children) to the patriots plot in Glasnevin cemetery.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 431 ✭✭6781


    Yes I'll be wearing one to remember those who made the ultimate sacrifice for our county.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,223 ✭✭✭orangesoda


    No but I have respect for those gallant sons of Hibernia especially Ulsters own Tom Clarke


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,479 ✭✭✭Notorious97


    Iwasfrozen wrote: »
    How does your employer feel about this?

    Never had them comment on it to be honest, i also never ram my opinion down someones throat or bang on about history etc with people in work.

    At the end of the day i cannot see how any irish person can criticise me for remembering the people who helped set up our state by wearing a pin, especially in work. I understand people extend it for all volunteers who died for ireland, including those during the troubles etc, but i state in my original post who i wear it for and dont feel i should feel ashamed of them or feel bad for remembering them.

    I work with people from all around the world and wouldnt challenge anyone wearing a poppy or some other symbol if they wished to do so, as long as they are not forcing their views down peoples necks.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 880 ✭✭✭Rachiee


    I have some level of respect for the rising but feel the lily has now become far too much associated with Sinn Fein. So wouldn't wear it for that reason.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 16,250 ✭✭✭✭Iwasfrozen


    Never had them comment on it to be honest, i also never ram my opinion down someones throat or bang on about history etc with people in work.

    At the end of the day i cannot see how any irish person can criticise me for remembering the people who helped set up our state by wearing a pin, especially in work. I understand people extend it for all volunteers who died for ireland, including those during the troubles etc, but i state in my original post who i wear it for and dont feel i should feel ashamed of them or feel bad for remembering them.

    I work with people from all around the world and wouldnt challenge anyone wearing a poppy or some other symbol if they wished to do so, as long as they are not forcing their views down peoples necks.
    Most people hold the lily in little regard because it also represents the pIRA and other republican terrorist organisations. Even the original IRA of the war of independence who you celebrate were not above killing civilians who got in the way. In my home town two people were killed in cross fire during an IRA ambush on an RIC patrol.

    It's for that reason and others I would never wear an Easter lily.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,479 ✭✭✭Notorious97


    Iwasfrozen wrote: »
    Most people hold the lily in little regard because it also represents the pIRA and other republican terrorist organisations. Even the original IRA of the war of independence who you celebrate were not above killing civilians who got in the way. In my home town two people were killed in cross fire during an IRA ambush on an RIC patrol.

    It's for that reason and others I would never wear an Easter lily.

    Thats fair enough, you have your reasons why not to and i have mine why i will, i cant sit here and rant at you when you have your own reasons why you feel that way

    As i said in my initial post, thats who i wear it for and why.

    I wouldnt like to see it forced on people to wear, has to be a personal preference in my opinion, as should any act of rememberence.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 16,250 ✭✭✭✭Iwasfrozen


    Thats fair enough, you have your reasons why not to and i have mine why i will, i cant sit here and rant at you when you have your own reasons why you feel that way

    As i said in my initial post, thats who i wear it for and why.

    I wouldnt like to see it forced on people to wear, has to be a personal preference in my opinion, as should any act of rememberence.
    I understand your position but you stated in your original post you don't understand why any Irish person could criticise you for wearing a lily. Well now you do.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,957 ✭✭✭blindside88


    efb wrote: »
    'RA, sorry, Sinn Fein office

    Don't think there is a Sinn Fein office in Carlow. Do regular shops sell them?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 16,250 ✭✭✭✭Iwasfrozen


    Don't think there is a Sinn Fein office in Carlow. Do regular shops sell them?
    I would hope not but I suspect the odd one probably does.


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 4,955 ✭✭✭delthedriver


    Its associations with IRA / Sinn Fein would preclude me from wearing an Easter Lilly.


    Perhaps I will wear my Munster Shirt instead


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,479 ✭✭✭Notorious97


    Iwasfrozen wrote: »
    I understand your position but you stated in your original post you don't understand why any Irish person could criticise you for wearing a lily. Well now you do.

    Well what i meant by criticise is someone just going off on one at me over me remembering people who founded the state i live in, theres a difference in my mind about someone reacting like that to me and someone who disagrees with it and engaging in a discussion in it as you just did.

    I wouldn't feel the need to hound someone to wear it or quiz them on it, as i said its a matter of personal preference. None of my family or friends wear it, i respect that they choose not to and i will discuss with someone if they wish to, just when they are purely looking to argue and its not constructive then thats what i don't understand

    In saying that though, there are both level headed people and non level headed people on both sides of the debate, just a fact of life i guess


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 5,172 ✭✭✭Ghost Buster


    I'd wear Evangeline Lilly


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,442 ✭✭✭shamrock55


    I dont understand why in this country we all cant come together on one day a year to remember those who made the ultimate sacrifice for their country and be proud of it, we really are a strange little country


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 16,250 ✭✭✭✭Iwasfrozen


    shamrock55 wrote: »
    I dont understand why in this country we all cant come together on one day a year to remember those who made the ultimate sacrifice for their country and be proud of it, we really are a strange little country

    Because the people the lily celebrates are not people who should be celebrated.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,192 ✭✭✭Sound of Silence


    Iwasfrozen wrote: »
    Most people hold the lily in little regard because it also represents the pIRA and other republican terrorist organisations. Even the original IRA of the war of independence who you celebrate were not above killing civilians who got in the way. In my home town two people were killed in cross fire during an IRA ambush on an RIC patrol.

    It's for that reason and others I would never wear an Easter lily.

    Out of sheer interest, and the fact that it's not hard to draw comparisons here, I would have to ask what your opinion on the Poppy would be.

    You seem to have a hard and fast rule when it comes to civilian casualties, and WWI certainly wasn't short of human distress, so would you say that this would similarly influence your opinion. I'm just trying to grasp the kind of thought process that all these badge-wearing people go through when they choose what to pin on their lapels.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 16,250 ✭✭✭✭Iwasfrozen


    Out of sheer interest, and the fact that it's not hard to draw comparisons here, I would have to ask what your opinion on the Poppy would be.

    You seem to have a hard and fast rule when it comes to civilian casualties, and WWI certainly wasn't short of human distress, so would you say that this would similarly influence your opinion. I'm just trying to grasp the kind of thought process that all these badge-wearing people go through when they choose what to pin on their lapels.
    I don't wear a poppy either


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,192 ✭✭✭Sound of Silence


    Iwasfrozen wrote: »
    I don't wear a poppy either

    For similar reasons?

    Or like most people here, you just couldn't be bothered purchasing either.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 46,938 ✭✭✭✭Nodin


    Iwasfrozen wrote: »
    Because the people the lily celebrates are not people who should be celebrated.


    ..says the man who once commented

    "On the other hand I would call the signing of the ulster covenant courageous. Here we have a group of people standing up for their right of self determination and refusing to be herded off to Dublin administration by the British, their supposed country men."

    Dear o dear o dear.


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 7,872 ✭✭✭strobe


    I do believe that this year I shall wear an Easter poppy.


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