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No Windfarms, No Fracking, No Nuclear Power ?

  • 15-04-2014 09:23PM
    #1
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 67 ✭✭


    Fossel Fuel wont last forever ! What do you suggest to generate the power we will need going forward ? I think one decent Nuclear power plant would suffice. Oh and No to the the waste plant in Ringsend which would make a big hole in Landfill. I just want to know, What do you want ? We cant burn turf forever cos they want to retain the bogs ? I am on the fence, I don't know...:confused:


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 3,516 ✭✭✭wazky


    Burn ghost estates full of bondholders.

    /thankswhoring


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 3,059 ✭✭✭WilyCoyote


    No future!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,440 ✭✭✭The Aussie


    Some people just won't be happy till we are all sitting in a dark room eating a big bowl of Tofu.... Tofu for all I say.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,567 ✭✭✭Red Pepper


    I love windfarms. New one went up near us recently. Majestic sight.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,681 ✭✭✭bodice ripper


    Last time I saw a title like that, it was written on a big sign being carried by a white girl with dreadlocks with ring-pulls tied in.


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  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 1,590 ✭✭✭jane82


    The nhs burn dead babies apparantly.


  • Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators Posts: 20,758 Mod ✭✭✭✭Sam Russell


    Whatever happened to the phone mast protesters?

    Oh, yea - they got smart-phones.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 22,606 ✭✭✭✭kneemos


    Red Pepper wrote: »
    I lovMe windfarms. New one went up near us recently. Majestic sight.

    Hideous looking waste of money.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 81,060 ✭✭✭✭biko


    Burn Athlone, that should keep us warm for a couple months.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 3,265 ✭✭✭visual


    Wind technology just isn't feasible at present
    but nuclear power is.

    We should have built a plant long ago but better later than never.

    However no one wants it it there back garden so wherever they put it there will be nay sayers

    If we discovered oil it be hassle getting it ashore with nay sayers


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,094 ✭✭✭SamAK


    Nuclear Fusion, pretty please.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,511 ✭✭✭Outkast_IRE


    kneemos wrote: »
    Hideous looking waste of money.
    I quite like the look of them too. When planned right they can be an amazing sight.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,567 ✭✭✭Red Pepper


    kneemos wrote: »
    Hideous looking waste of money.

    why did you edit my post? I don't like the look of that M.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,563 ✭✭✭monkeysnapper


    jane82 wrote: »
    The nhs burn dead babies apparantly.

    Your really sick


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,280 ✭✭✭Davarus Walrus


    There is a rump of Irish society that is perennially in a state of protest. Latching on to causes and saying no to everything. I don't think they actually have a cohesive ideology or belief system; more a sense of anger projected on a world that has failed them. So no to new power sources, yet outrage at rising energy costs. Something about the environment as well.

    I won't comment on my personal preference for future energy needs, as I work in the industry and am biased towards a certain solution.


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 1,590 ✭✭✭jane82


    Your really sick

    No they do.
    Im not the one burning the babies


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 8,493 ✭✭✭DazMarz


    Sums it all up quite better than I ever could:



  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,567 ✭✭✭Red Pepper


    There is a rump of Irish society that is perennially in a state of protest. Latching on to causes and saying no to everything. I don't think they actually have a cohesive ideology or belief system; more a sense of anger projected on a world that has failed them.

    Absofückinglutely spot on Mr Walrus!! :)

    This post should be the 2nd post in all After Hours threads!

    Well said Sir, well said.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 3,971 ✭✭✭Sh1tbag OToole


    SamAK wrote: »
    Nuclear Fusion, pretty please.

    Mr. Fusion is coming out next year


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 22,606 ✭✭✭✭kneemos


    There is a rump of Irish society that is perennially in a state of protest. Latching on to causes and saying no to everything. I don't think they actually have a cohesive ideology or belief system; more a sense of anger projected on a world that has failed them. So no to new power sources, yet outrage at rising energy costs. Something about the environment as well.

    I won't comment on my personal preference for future energy needs, as I work in the industry and am biased towards a certain solution.

    Think you're supposed to be biased on the web.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,921 ✭✭✭2 stroke


    visual wrote: »
    Wind technology just isn't feasible at present
    but nuclear power is.
    I cannot understand how anyone can think that. Nuclear power will never pay for the thousands of years of aftercare it leaves behind.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 24,461 ✭✭✭✭darkpagandeath


    Mr. Fusion is coming out next year

    Depends if they can get that Laser to fire multiple times a second and not once or twice a day.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,305 ✭✭✭131spanner


    Keep burning fossil fuels to fook. We're here for a good time, not for a long time :cool: :D


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 22,606 ✭✭✭✭kneemos


    Red Pepper wrote: »
    why did you edit my post? I don't like the look of that M.

    Dunno what happened there.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,507 ✭✭✭Nino Brown


    2 stroke wrote: »
    I cannot understand how anyone can think that. Nuclear power will never pay for the thousands of years of aftercare it leaves behind.

    That attitude is the problem. Not all nuclear reactors produce mountains of waste. Thorium reactors actually consume nuclear waste. But because people are so anti nuclear it doesn't get the funding it needs to get off the ground.

    And nuclear is by far the safest method of power generation. By so far its not even close to any others. I think the inconvenience of disposing of waste is better than the massive deaths caused by oil, coal, gas etc.

    http://www.forbes.com/sites/jamesconca/2012/06/10/energys-deathprint-a-price-always-paid/


    Energy Source Mortality Rate (deaths/trillionkWhr)

    Coal – global average 170,000 (50% global electricity)

    Coal – China 280,000 (75% China’s electricity)

    Coal – U.S. 15,000 (44% U.S. electricity)

    Oil 36,000 (36% of energy, 8% of electricity)

    Natural Gas 4,000 (20% global electricity)

    Biofuel/Biomass 24,000 (21% global energy)

    Solar (rooftop) 440 (< 1% global electricity)

    Wind 150 (~ 1% global electricity)

    Hydro – global average 1,400 (15% global electricity)

    Nuclear – global average 90 (17% global electricity w/Chern&Fukush)


  • Moderators, Social & Fun Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 10,662 Mod ✭✭✭✭Robbo


    Remember kids: "But it'll effect the soaring value and beautiful amenity of my lovely Bungalow Bliss one off, dependent on the daysul Passat, house" is code for "I'm negotiating a better bribe".


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 24,755 ✭✭✭✭Cookie_Monster


    Fusion is key longer term but isn't going to be commercially available in the short term.

    Short of that micro generation is what we should be looking at now that there are proper smart meters being installed everywhere. If every house had a solar roof and every rural dwelling had a mini wind turbine the base generation capacity would be enormous and distributed far better than current.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,020 ✭✭✭BlaasForRafa


    biko wrote: »
    Burn Athlone, that should keep us warm for a couple months.

    And Longford, Mullingar and Birr while yer at it.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 554 ✭✭✭BASHIR


    Not only our energy sources, to mention that every daily item is made directly and indirectly from oil.
    Every synthetic polymer (plastic) item is refined directly from crude oil. not only that but
    shipping these goods burns tons of oil.
    I'm not sure how reliable the source is but I read on the guardian before that 1 of the giant shipping containers produce as much emissions in a year than 50 million cars.
    This energy source is dwindling and the effects this will have is incomprehensible tbh.


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  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 67 ✭✭kinklee7


    RTE 1 Now !


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