Easy Calving bull

dungfly · 14-04-2014 10:08PM #1

Thinking of using HMI bull on my maiden heifers. Does anyone have any experience of this or any other easy calving bulls?

mr_putin · 14-04-2014 10:44PM

dungfly wrote: »

Thinking of using HMI bull on my maiden heifers. Does anyone have any experience of this or any other easy calving bulls?

queenshead altea is a very easy calving limousin bull , i think he,s in dovea

on the river · 15-04-2014 09:05AM

HCA progressive gentices very easy calving lm

dungfly · 15-04-2014 09:59AM

I should have asked the question clearly. What makes an easy calving bull? Any recommendations for an easy calving F-H bull? And why?

Farrell · 15-04-2014 12:42PM

dungfly wrote: »

I should have asked the question clearly. What makes an easy calving bull? Any recommendations for an easy calving F-H bull? And why?

Allot depends on the diet you feed the cow/heifer too.
I've seen cows need sections to easy calving aa, & first timers throw ch out no bother.

dungfly · 15-04-2014 02:52PM

The ICBF tries to put numbers on things. Can anyone explain the numbers representing easy calving?

Mad4simmental · 15-04-2014 02:55PM

Huge chest and shoulders, stay away from if that's what your asking

dungfly · 15-04-2014 04:01PM

Mad4simmental wrote: »

Huge chest and shoulders, stay away from if that's what your asking

I was advised by AI company that HMI is the most popular easy calving bull??

Mad4simmental · 15-04-2014 04:05PM

dungfly wrote: »

I was advised by AI company that HMI is the most popular easy calving bull??

Sorry I just ment in general,

J.O. Farmer · 15-04-2014 10:00PM

dungfly wrote: »

The ICBF tries to put numbers on things. Can anyone explain the numbers representing easy calving?

They give star ratings within breeds and across all breeds. The more stars the better. They also give a % calving 3 or 4. This is hard calvings needing a lot of assistance and even C-sections. You want as low a figure for that as possible.

dungfly · 15-04-2014 10:33PM

J.O. Farmer wrote: »

They give star ratings within breeds and across all breeds. The more stars the better. They also give a % calving 3 or 4. This is hard calvings needing a lot of assistance and even C-sections. You want as low a figure for that as possible.

My experience of star ratings is they mean nothing and cattle traders seem to ignore them.

onyerbikepat · 15-04-2014 10:50PM

dungfly wrote: »

My experience of star ratings is they mean nothing and cattle traders seem to ignore them.

That's because reliability figures are so low. Anyone using AI will tell you that Calving Figures are pretty much on the ball, once the reliability is high, greater than say 80%.

J.O. Farmer · 15-04-2014 11:25PM

dungfly wrote: »

My experience of star ratings is they mean nothing and cattle traders seem to ignore them.

Why ask for someone to explain the calving figures when you have no faith in the easy to follow star rating system. It was brought in to make figures easy to understand. The star rating is based on the figures and is there to allow easy comparison of bulls. As pat says you've also to look at reliability but that applies to all figures.

dungfly · 16-04-2014 01:17PM

Trying to use Herd Plus to select bulls by trait. I want to select for easy calving but this does not seem to be an option? Calving interval or survivability seem to be the only options?

dungfly · 16-04-2014 01:22PM

My herd is a PBR herd all F-H. If I use a bull such as HMI (100% H) which it says on the catalogue can register calves off. Does this mean that there will be no issues for me with a F-H herd. Or do I have to use another bull to register calves off of.

Easy Calving bull

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