The Guardian Angels of Irish Cities

BazPM · 15-04-2014 07:37PM #1

I know it's a popular topic on boards.ie at the moment but I am becoming concerned about just how bad Dublin is getting. I'm seeing a lot of violence, intimidation and lawlessness and it's becoming extraordinarily common. I know in New York in the 90s there was a group called the guardian angels who would travel in big groups around the city to make citizens arrests and I'm just wondering if people think it's a feesible idea for here? I know it's dangerous but at the same time I can't sit back and continue to watch what is becoming of Dublin

oppenheimer1 · 15-04-2014 07:41PM

You make Dublin sound like a war zone, it's most definitely not. It's just like any other city in western Europe and it does have problems, but calling for vigilantes is just plain stupid.

Indeed Dublin would be really easy to clean up if the methadone clinics were moved out of the city centre. No need for vigilantes just a policy everyone can agree to

Zed Bank · 15-04-2014 07:43PM

Nah, I think I'll dress up in tights and go around fighting crime.

harney · 15-04-2014 07:43PM

If they start in Movember they could all look like Charles Bronson.

Canis Lupus · 15-04-2014 07:43PM

oppenheimer1 wrote: »

You make Dublin sound like a war zone, it's most definitely not. It's just like any other city in western Europe and it does have problems, but calling for vigilantes is just plain stupid.

Indeed Dublin would be really easy to clean up if the methadone clinics were moved out of the city centre. No need for vigilantes just a policy everyone can agree to

Could you imagine... Junkies asking for a euro for the bus would skyrocket.

tigger123 · 15-04-2014 07:44PM

I've been living and working in the City Centre for the last 10 years, and Dublin's grand. Gardaí have enough to be doing without dealing with vigilantes as well as everything else.

Who'd do this OP?

c_man · 15-04-2014 07:48PM

Yeah, great idea. The nerds of AH donning red berets and getting their collective heads kicked in by the scummers :pac:

artanevilla · 15-04-2014 07:48PM

All right, I'll be Cue Ball. Barney can be Eight Ball, Lenny will be Twelve Ball, and Moe, you'll be Cue Ball.

Balmed Out · 15-04-2014 07:50PM

No Irish city is any where near as bad as we like to make them out to be

zl1whqvjs75cdy · 15-04-2014 07:53PM

I definitely think Dublin is getting worse. If you were to walk down main street Berlin or Paris or London or other major European cities you wouldn't see scores of junkies passed out and fighting as I witnessed today on the way home.

darkpagandeath · 15-04-2014 07:53PM

Balmed Out wrote: »

No Irish city is any where near as bad as we like to make them out to be

http://www.independent.ie/irish-news/capitals-murder-rate-one-of-the-highest-in-europe-26548631.html

The rate is going back up again too.

WoollyRedHat · 15-04-2014 07:53PM

I've got a cape in my wardrobe somewhere, granted it's a Harry Potter one, but with a bit of face paint I can look well scary.

We need to pick a soundtrack to, so they know us band of merryman are coming and put the fear into their hearts. I vote we call ourselves the Warriors.

The Warriors of Dublin

newmug · 15-04-2014 07:57PM

WoollyRedHat wrote: »

I've got a cape in my wardrobe somewhere, granted it's a Harry Potter one, but with a bit of face paint I can look well scary.

We need to pick a soundtrack to, so they know us band of merryman are coming and put the fear into their hearts. I vote we call ourselves the Warriors.

The Warriors of Dublin

The keyBOARD warriors!! See that? See what I did? Double nerd-hood. How can we NOT do this?

stimpson · 15-04-2014 07:57PM

Balmed Out wrote: »

No Irish city is any where near as bad as we like to make them out to be

What about Limerick?

Balmed Out · 15-04-2014 08:03PM

stimpson wrote: »

What about Limerick?

Limerick is fine. Have you spent any time there? Id feel safer in Dublin then most Scottish or English cities and most of the mainland European cities Ive been to.

Red Pepper · 15-04-2014 08:07PM

oppenheimer1 wrote: »

You make Dublin sound like a war zone, it's most definitely not. It's just like any other city in western Europe and it does have problems, but calling for vigilantes is just plain stupid.

Ah will you stop, the point is that Dublin could be a lot better. There is no valid reason why it is being let become such a dangerous/dirty place. It has absolutely lost its charm in the last decade or so. In my opinion, there aren't many Irish people outside Dublin that want to visit Dublin unless there is a match or concert on. I imagine that most Dubliners do not visit O'Connell Street or its surrounds too often either. It's a sad reflection on our capital.

But hey we can always accept the mediocre in this country with a "shure its not as bad as most western cities...blah blah"

Davarus Walrus · 15-04-2014 08:07PM

Shít yo getin serious down here in muthafúckin Monkstown. Crack ho's be selling booty on da corner while pipe-wielding thugs be holdin shít up.

BetterThanThou · 15-04-2014 08:08PM

I think Dublin is grand, the junkies are all harmless, sure, it's not the prettiest sight to see so many junkies. But I've never once felt threatened by them.

Kermit.de.frog · 15-04-2014 08:18PM

I agree a big part of Dublin's problem is the methadone clinics in such close proximity on the northside and the delinquent planners decision to provide a free taxi service to them in the form of the Luas through the most scum riddled parts of the city.

On that note what do the southsiders think of the social mixing experiment about to begin to connect the red with the green line?

The scum will now have unfettered access to the southside free of charge and the middle classes unfettered access to the northside having paid their fare.

It will be interesting to see the deleterous effects on the green line that will result from connection with the scum train.

darkpagandeath · 15-04-2014 08:22PM

Davarus Walrus wrote: »

Shít yo getin serious down here in muthafúckin Monkstown. Crack ho's be selling booty on da corner while pipe-wielding thugs be holdin shít up.

Do people forget the flats that used to be in monkstown and dun laoghaire being a port town has it's own problems, And with all the methadone clinics

strobe · 15-04-2014 08:24PM

Jesus a lot of people on boards must be soft little delicate flowers. I've never heard anything as ridiculous in my life as you do in these kinds of threads. Jittery, palpitating pansies recalling in horror the time they saw a fight one Friday night 8 years ago on o connel St, or the permanently soul shattering terror of a couple of incidents of petty street crime witnessed in a major capital city. Recounting their tales like paraplegic 'nam vets in a support group for PTSD sufferers. "They were everywhere maaan, in the trees maaan, Charlie junkies maaan. And then when I shipped home to Mayo, there was no parade... People don't understand what it was like maan. They weren't there the night Big John got pushed a couple of times by that slightly drunk sham in a tracksuit. How do you come home and explain these things to people? I guess you just gotta try and live one day at a time..."

Donkey Oaty · 15-04-2014 08:26PM

strobe wrote: »

I've never heard anything as ridiculous in my life as you do in these kinds of threads.

In which case it is YOU who is living the sheltered life, my friend.

strobe · 15-04-2014 08:29PM

Donkey Oaty wrote: »

In which case it is YOU who is living the sheltered life, my friend.

touché.

Donkey Oaty · 15-04-2014 08:31PM

strobe wrote: »

touché.

Spoke like a true Dub, bud.!:)

dj jarvis · 15-04-2014 08:32PM

OP , stop reading the daily mail , stop being scared.

anyway , you are more likely to get a beating off some middle class yahoo out on the beer on a Friday night than you are from a junkie,
and in fairness 99.99% of junkies would snap if you breath too heavy in their direction.

its probably NOWHERE near as dangerous as you think it is , i suggest you wander round south London at dusk , thats real danger INNIT !!!!

dj jarvis · 15-04-2014 08:35PM

Red Pepper wrote: »

Ah will you stop, the point is that Dublin could be a lot better. There is no valid reason why it is being let become such a dangerous/dirty place. It has absolutely lost its charm in the last decade or so. In my opinion, there aren't many Irish people outside Dublin that want to visit Dublin unless there is a match or concert on. I imagine that most Dubliners do not visit O'Connell Street or its surrounds too often either. It's a sad reflection on our capital.

But hey we can always accept the mediocre in this country with a "shure its not as bad as most western cities...blah blah"

but its not , it gotten safer in the last 10 years , less street crime ( other than the spike in the last 2 years becasue of Iphone snatching )

SOME PEOPLE JUST WANT TO BE SCARED !!!!

JOE - JOE - THE JUNKIES JOE !!!

Lapin · 15-04-2014 08:40PM

I used to get more pissed off with the Guardian Angels on the tube with their self righteous look of distain when I refused to give them a donation than I ever did with a 'story bud' Dublin junkie tapping me for a euro.

Red Pepper · 15-04-2014 08:42PM

dj jarvis wrote: »

but its not , it gotten safer in the last 10 years , less street crime ( other than the spike in the last 2 years becasue of Iphone snatching )

SOME PEOPLE JUST WANT TO BE SCARED !!!!

JOE - JOE - THE JUNKIES JOE !!!

http://www.independent.ie/irish-news/capitals-murder-rate-one-of-the-highest-in-europe-26548631.html

In the space of a decade, Dublin has gone from having one of the lowest homicide rates of any European capital city to having possibly the highest, and certainly the highest for gang related murders.

orangesoda · 15-04-2014 08:43PM

i remember a few of my old school teachers used to sleg dublin all the time, saying it was heroin capital of europe and what not, 'bad auld hole or 'dear auld hole' were the usual phrases

darkpagandeath · 15-04-2014 08:44PM

Red Pepper wrote: »

http://www.independent.ie/irish-news/capitals-murder-rate-one-of-the-highest-in-europe-26548631.html

In the space of a decade, Dublin has gone from having one of the lowest homicide rates of any European capital city to having possibly the highest, and certainly the highest for gang related murders.

I linked that already...

DazMarz · 15-04-2014 08:44PM

artanevilla wrote: »

All right, I'll be Cue Ball. Barney can be Eight Ball, Lenny will be Twelve Ball, and Moe, you'll be Cue Ball.

"You're an idiot..." -Moe

The Guardian Angels of Irish Cities

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