Enda Kenny to invite British Royals to 1916 Easter Rising celebrations??

homeless student · 11-04-2014 12:25PM #1

I am all for reconciliation, queens Ireland visit etc but inviting British royals to the 1916 celebrations is a ridiculous idea, the 1916 celebrations should be about celebrating the bravery of all the rebels who fought in 1916, not another excuse for enda to lick the royal families ass and have union jacks flying all over Dublin. this celebration is about an event that had a big influence on us getting our freedom from the British so can we not just make it an exclusively Irish event?

My name is URL · 11-04-2014 12:29PM

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Banjo String · 11-04-2014 12:29PM

homeless student wrote: »

I am all for reconciliation, queens Ireland visit etc but inviting British royals to the 1916 celebrations is a ridiculous idea, the 1916 celebrations should be about celebrating the bravery of all the rebels who fought in 1916, not another excuse for enda to lick the royal families ass and have union jacks flying all over Dublin. this celebration is about an event that had a big influence on us getting our freedom from the British so can we not just make it an exclusively Irish event ?

Not sure if serious. :cool:

Dravokivich · 11-04-2014 12:30PM

That's a bit narrow minded isn't it?

It would not be to "lick the royal families ass."

Did you have issues with her visiting the Garden of Remembrance too?

11-04-2014 12:30PM

It's a trap

Tangatagamadda Chaddabinga Bonga Bungo · 11-04-2014 12:32PM

If she wears an EIRE 32 Celtic jersey then I'd be in favour of her being here for the celebrations.

VinLieger · 11-04-2014 12:33PM

Why gives a **** who comes seriously can we not just get over it and agree it was a ****ty part of our history?

Arent the whole back and forth visits about reconciling the past and just getting on with **** instead of constantly shouting 800 years every time someone official from england comes over?

bumper234 · 11-04-2014 12:33PM

homeless student wrote: »

I am all for reconciliation, queens Ireland visit etc but inviting British royals to the 1916 celebrations is a ridiculous idea, the 1916 celebrations should be about celebrating the bravery of all the rebels who fought in 1916, not another excuse for enda to lick the royal families ass and have union jacks flying all over Dublin. this celebration is about an event that had a big influence on us getting our freedom from the British so can we not just make it an exclusively Irish event?

Yeah let's ban all tourists that year and send all the foreigners home so we can make it exclusive :rolleyes:

pojfexcsc · 11-04-2014 12:34PM

That day should be solely focused on the men and women who fought for Ireland, having the royals there would just create a media ****storm where everyone and the world media would be focused on the wrong thing.

szatan84 · 11-04-2014 12:35PM

That would be like inviting the Germans to remember all the Holocaust victims. A tad bit tacky.

Dravokivich · 11-04-2014 12:38PM

pojfexcsc wrote: »

That day should be solely focused on the men and women who fought for Ireland, having the royals there would just create a media ****storm where everyone and the world media would be focused on the wrong thing.

alright alright, I'll bite...

Political Correctness, gone MAAADDDD!!!!!

Ted

Davarus Walrus · 11-04-2014 12:38PM

I'm sure the heads of state of many countries will be invited. That said, I find the 1916 celebration to be all a bit embarrassing. It celebrates an event that didn't even reach the status of a glorious failure.

bear1 · 11-04-2014 12:39PM

homeless student wrote: »

I am all for reconciliation, queens Ireland visit etc but inviting British royals to the 1916 celebrations is a ridiculous idea, the 1916 celebrations should be about celebrating the bravery of all the rebels who fought in 1916, not another excuse for enda to lick the royal families ass and have union jacks flying all over Dublin. this celebration is about an event that had a big influence on us getting our freedom from the British so can we not just make it an exclusively Irish event?

pojfexcsc wrote: »

That day should be solely focused on the men and women who fought for Ireland, having the royals there would just create a media ****storm where everyone and the world media would be focused on the wrong thing.

szatan84 wrote: »

That would be like inviting the Germans to remember all the Holocaust victims. A tad bit tacky.

Are you 3 serious?
If anything, it shows that our 2 countries have finally started to do what would have been fantasy land years ago.
I welcome them, to see first handed what ti was like from both sides of the story.
Sure, the UK are what caused it but feckin hell it was nearly 100 years ago. We've moved on, unlike some I can see.
In the end, it is a day that involved both the Irish and the British.

bumper234 · 11-04-2014 12:39PM

szatan84 wrote: »

That would be like inviting the Germans to remember all the Holocaust victims. A tad bit tacky.

They don't shy away from what happened that's for sure.

http://www.dw.de/germany-remembers-holocaust-on-auschwitz-liberation-anniversary/a-15697472-1

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Holocaust_memorial_landscapes_in_Germany

http://www.nytimes.com/2005/05/09/international/europe/09germany.html?_r=0

bear1 · 11-04-2014 12:41PM

Davarus Walrus wrote: »

I'm sure the heads of state of many countries will be invited. That said, I find the 1916 celebration to be all a bit embarrassing. It celebrates an event that didn't even reach the status of a glorious failure.

The thing is, the Easter Rising paved the way for Independence. It gave rise to Sein Fein which set up Dail Eireann and adopted Independence.
YEs it was a monumental failure but it's aftermath was positive.

R P McMurphy · 11-04-2014 12:42PM

Depending on who attends, would the city not have to go into lock down with everyone confined outside. Not much of a celebration or commemoration or whatever it will be

Alf. A. Male · 11-04-2014 12:43PM

szatan84 wrote: »

That would be like inviting the Germans to remember all the Holocaust victims. A tad bit tacky.

Lots of Germans do remember the Holocaust victims. They feel it to be something of a national stain to the extent that they have a term for it, Kriegsschuld. That relates to a more general feeling about the war, but includes their feelings about the Holocaust.
I don't say it's right for Germans now to carry the can for Germany then, but recognition of wrongs is part of healing them. Standing with people you've hurt is important for both sides. South Africa has started a healing process for Aparthied and I'm sure there are other examples. Maybe we should keep the growth of the last few years going and put the past where it belongs.

.jacksparrow. · 11-04-2014 12:51PM

bear1 wrote: »

Are you 3 serious?
If anything, it shows that our 2 countries have finally started to do what would have been fantasy land years ago.
I welcome them, to see first handed what ti was like from both sides of the story.
Sure, the UK are what caused it but feckin hell it was nearly 100 years ago. We've moved on, unlike some I can see.
In the end, it is a day that involved both the Irish and the British.

From the constant Sinn Fein bashing, It would seem most of the country only move on when it suits their agenda.

conorhal · 11-04-2014 01:09PM

Perhaps we can move the celebrations to the 4th July and just call it 'In Your face Queenie! Day' ?

seamus · 11-04-2014 01:14PM

Does the inclusion of the UK's head of state in our 1916 celebrations not show that we've moved on? That any bitterness or soreness about the affair has been put to bed and the UK are applauding Ireland's existence as a state rather than begrudging it?

Would nationalists not prefer this? The admission and acceptance by the UK of Ireland's existence is effectively the cherry on top, the ultimate confirmation of the republican victory over the empire.

orangesoda · 11-04-2014 01:25PM

there will surely be none invited to Hugh O'Neills anniversary celebration up here in 2016

Birroc · 11-04-2014 01:31PM

homeless student wrote: »

this celebration is about an event that had a big influence on us getting our freedom from the British

should read..."this celebration is about an event that had a big influence on us getting taken over by the Roman church and gombeen politicians"

My name is URL · 11-04-2014 01:32PM

seamus wrote: »

Does the inclusion of the UK's head of state in our 1916 celebrations not show that we've moved on? That any bitterness or soreness about the affair has been put to bed and the UK are applauding Ireland's existence as a state rather than begrudging it?

Would nationalists not prefer this? The admission and acceptance by the UK of Ireland's existence is effectively the cherry on top, the ultimate confirmation of the republican victory over the empire.

I agree 100% but that's all well and good until some retard who thinks he's a 'true republican' decides to take umbrage and acts out on it. That's the only thing I'd fear about the whole thing. All it takes is one or two idiots to be 'offended' enough by the invitation for the rest of us to be flung back into the dark days of violence and division.

I don't think that those who are most likely to react would bother giving the significance of a royals attendance any logical thought.

MonstaMash · 11-04-2014 01:34PM

I don't know, i reckon Queen Lizzy is getting into the spirit of things...

Alf. A. Male · 11-04-2014 01:35PM

My name is URL wrote: »

I agree 100% but that's all well and good until some retard who thinks he's a 'true republican' decides to take umbrage and acts out on it. That's the only thing I'd fear about the whole thing. All it takes is one or two idiots to be 'offended' enough by the invitation for the rest of us to be flung back into the dark days of violence and division.

I don't think that those who are most likely to react would bother giving the significance of a royals attendance any logical thought.

The same fears were raised before the visit of the queen. What materialised was a few idiots in English football shirts shouting for the hour they could be bothered to leave the pub.

LizzieJones · 11-04-2014 01:35PM

MonstaMash wrote: »

I don't know, i reckon Queen Lizzy is getting into the spirit of things...

She could have smiled.

Ireland and England are BFFs now. So cute.

zl1whqvjs75cdy · 11-04-2014 01:36PM

Will we be allowed on the streets if the Queen comes again? Or will they close everything again to be on the safe side. Don't really fancy celebrating in my apartment with a bag of tins.

conorhal · 11-04-2014 01:37PM

seamus wrote: »

Does the inclusion of the UK's head of state in our 1916 celebrations not show that we've moved on? That any bitterness or soreness about the affair has been put to bed and the UK are applauding Ireland's existence as a state rather than begrudging it?

Would nationalists not prefer this? The admission and acceptance by the UK of Ireland's existence is effectively the cherry on top, the ultimate confirmation of the republican victory over the empire.

Rarely is maturity characterised by the desperate crawling neediness for acceptance/endorsement from the English that so many Irish people seem to display. It's the same desperate 'what will the British think of us' insecurity that caused us to dispense with any celebration of our independence in the first place.
The near blanket rolling coverage of Micky D's visit has been prime example of this too. The word 'historic' was thrown out so often that 'hystronic' would have been more apropriate.

RobbingBandit · 11-04-2014 01:40PM

Odd question, will there be two celebrations in 2016 one on Easter Sunday/Monday March 27/28 and another on the actual centenary dates of April 23/24?

If two which will Lizzo come to?

Reoil · 11-04-2014 01:40PM

szatan84 wrote: »

That would be like inviting the Germans to remember all the Holocaust victims. A tad bit tacky.

Em, would it not be like inviting the Germans to remember all the allied soldiers who died?

Fratton Fred · 11-04-2014 01:50PM

I can't see Liz coming, in fact I can't see her doing any more overseas visits. I would expect Charles, Harry or Wills to come.

Enda Kenny to invite British Royals to 1916 Easter Rising celebrations??

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