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Manchester United Superthread 2014 Mod Warning post #2237

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  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 755 ✭✭✭sea_monkey


    astonaidan wrote: »
    No the reason for Reus to move to United was Dortmund wont be challenging for the league even if he is playing for his boyhood team.
    I used Totti as a example as he turned down most of the big boys to stay with Roma his boyhood team.
    The comment had suggested playing for Dortmund his boyhood team meant nothing which is nonsense talk and winning leagues is all that counts

    It means nothing quite a lot of the time. John terry, Ole, Carragher, Rooney etc..

    Then theres robbie keane who was lucky enough to play for all of his teams.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 427 ✭✭sigmundv


    Found this quite funny fact about Reus. Tomas Rosicky was his idol:
    Another sign of his love for Borussia Dortmund comes in the form of the player he idolised in his younger years: Tomas Rosicky. The Czech international was one of the club's foremost figures in the early 2000s, winning the Bundesliga title with BVB and playing close to 200 league games. "Rosicky had great technique and was so intelligent and mature even though he was still young at Dortmund. I copied everything about him - right down to his sweatbands."

    http://www.bundesliga.com/en/liga/news/2012/0000258652.php


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 32,370 ✭✭✭✭Son Of A Vidic


    Mikeyt086 wrote: »

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    Not only do I want this jersey now, but I want it spray painted onto my car.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 4,456 ✭✭✭astonaidan


    sea_monkey wrote: »
    It means nothing quite a lot of the time. John terry, Ole, Carragher, Rooney etc..

    Then theres robbie keane who was lucky enough to play for all of his teams.
    Oh Im aware of that, but there is situations where it does mean a lot and Reus has already shown it does for him in turning down Bayern for Dortmund


  • Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 42,996 Mod ✭✭✭✭Lord TSC


    Being honest, while I really like Reus, he really isn't what we need this summer, and would worry a bit about the idea of spending 40m and however many more millions on his wages.

    The attacking options at United are fine without going for another 40m player; Rooney, RVP, Mata, Kagawa should be starting as our main 4, with Welbeck, Januzaj, Hernandez, Nani, Val & Young as back up. Those 10 players cover the 4 positions perfectly, and at most, all we'd need is another squad player or back up player to replace the last two.

    If we have a 200m warchest (and being honest, I don't believe we do...), then it should nearly entirely be about getting in two CMs, a left back and a center back. I'd much rather see the cash split between those 4 positions than seeing us go after ANOTHER attacking player.

    Reus is great, but he's really not what we need.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,617 ✭✭✭xtal191


    6 more years!!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,219 ✭✭✭✭Pro. F


    M!CK^ in the last thread:
    Whenever he received the ball, (which Carrick was supposed to be providing but ****ed it up for most of the night) He never once lost it and he created three excellent chances, one in particular where he danced through the midfield like they were not even there. To state he failed is an exaggeration considering what he was up against, one man alone was never going to dominate the trio in midfield for Munich but I would like you to pick out this supposed 'suitably athletic player for the wide position' and explain exactly why this said player would have been more useful?

    I never suggested that Kagawa should have dominated Munich in midfield. One player was never going to do that when United were looking to play on the counter. I was talking about his contribution to the counter attack. I think you are vastly overstating how well he contributed to the counter attack. Never once lost the ball? Come on now.

    As for the type of suitably athletic player I was talking about for playing wide in a counter attacking team: Ronaldo, Bale, Lavezzi, Walcott, Ox, Rues, Hazaard, Schurrle, Draxler, Sterling, Nani, etc. Those types of players.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 19,166 ✭✭✭✭nullzero
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    Berbatov one is a must buy.

    Squirrel out of shot unfortunately.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,825 ✭✭✭Mikeyt086


    sob1467 wrote: »
    How much are these. Very tempted to go for the Neville one.

    How much does it cost to set up your own T-Shirt design business? You would need to send me that amount, then wait until I get off the ground, then you can buy the Neville one for $39.99 USD.

    Actually, no, considering you are giving me enough money to start my own business, I'll send you a Neville T-Shirt free of charge. ;)

    And **** it, a 10% discount for all Boards.ie United Superthread posters! Just use the discount code: MATAGAWA at the fictional checkout of my fictional t-shirt company, soon to be fictional t-shirt empire.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 427 ✭✭sigmundv


    Being honest, while I really like Reus, he really isn't what we need this summer, and would worry a bit about the idea of spending 40m and however many more millions on his wages.
    Absolutely. We have Mata and Kagawa, who are similar to Reus, so that's a no go. Other areas of the team are in dire need of reinforcements, so we won't go for Reus. I wonder if some of the posters got him mixed up with Kroos, who is one that really would strengthen our midfield (not that it takes a lot to strengthen a non-existent midfield).


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 19,166 ✭✭✭✭nullzero
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    Mikeyt086 wrote: »
    How much does it cost to set up your own T-Shirt design business? You would need to send me that amount, then wait until I get off the ground, then you can buy the Neville one for $39.99 USD.

    Actually, no, considering you are giving me enough money to start my own business, I'll send you a Neville T-Shirt free of charge. ;)

    And **** it, a 10% discount for all Boards.ie United Superthread posters! Just use the discount code: MATAGAWA at the fictional checkout of my fictional t-shirt company, soon to be fictional t-shirt empire.

    Could you print us a new manager while you're at it?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 4,456 ✭✭✭astonaidan


    sigmundv wrote: »
    Absolutely. We have Mata and Kagawa, who are similar to Reus, so that's a no go. Other areas of the team are in dire need of reinforcements, so we won't go for Reus. I wonder if some of the posters got him mixed up with Kroos, who is one that really would strengthen our midfield (not that it takes a lot to strengthen a non-existent midfield).
    They arent really though, while Reus has played ten its not his position, hes more a LW, the Armenian guy is Dortmunds 10, Reus is more about speed


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 427 ✭✭sigmundv


    Mikeyt086 wrote: »
    How much does it cost to set up your own T-Shirt design business?
    Seriously, you should investigate how much it would cost. There are places where you send in a design and they handle the rest for you, but I don't know how large a chunk of the cake they take.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 427 ✭✭sigmundv


    astonaidan wrote: »
    They arent really though, while Reus has played ten its not his position, hes more a LW, the Armenian guy is Dortmunds 10, Reus is more about speed
    You're probably right. Mhkitariyan is playing centrally for them, while Reus is a speedster in the Gareth Bale mould.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 35,338 ✭✭✭✭The_Kew_Tour


    I would have bought a top if it had this picture on it. Pity

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    EVENFLOW



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,192 ✭✭✭✭Kerrydude1981


    A t-shirt of Keano going telling Andy D'urso that he is a great ref would be cool :D

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,320 ✭✭✭v3ttel


    Did anyone else get that survey from the club today? They had a few interesting questions....

    Favourite 3 players at the club? Nani, Chicharito, De Gea, in that order, for me.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 9,575 ✭✭✭Backstreet Moyes


    v3ttel wrote: »
    Did anyone else get that survey from the club today? They had a few interesting questions....

    Favourite 3 players at the club? Nani, Chicharito, De Gea, in that order, for me.

    Rafael, Kagawa and Wellbeck.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,924 ✭✭✭Whatsisname


    Playing against Bayern in Fifa. I go 1 up and they equalize straight away. What the hell is going on, am I being punk'd?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,320 ✭✭✭v3ttel


    sigmundv wrote: »
    Absolutely. We have Mata and Kagawa, who are similar to Reus, so that's a no go. Other areas of the team are in dire need of reinforcements, so we won't go for Reus. I wonder if some of the posters got him mixed up with Kroos, who is one that really would strengthen our midfield (not that it takes a lot to strengthen a non-existent midfield).

    Reus' style is not similar to Mata or Kagawa.

    Reus is a player capable of playing at a world class level in wider areas, capable of stretching teams with his pace. You could not say that about either Kagawa or Mata. We're sorely lacking a world class player wide player. I think he is tailor made for MUFC. Obviously, CM still needs addressing. I don't think anyone is saying that isn't the case.

    Reus, 2 CMs, 1 LB, 1 RB, 1 CB would be on my Summer wish list. With Giggs, Cleverley, Rio, Vidic, Evra, Young all going in the opposite direction.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,825 ✭✭✭Mikeyt086


    nullzero wrote: »
    Could you print us a new manager while you're at it?

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    I would have bought a top if it had this picture on it. Pity

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    A t-shirt of Keano going telling Andy D'urso that he is a great ref would be cool :D

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    So apparently my new t-shirt empire does requests. :pac:


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,353 ✭✭✭✭DARK-KNIGHT


    v3ttel wrote: »
    Did anyone else get that survey from the club today? They had a few interesting questions....

    Favourite 3 players at the club? Nani, Chicharito, De Gea, in that order, for me.

    Are they testing the water maybe to make sure they dont offload fan favourites


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,353 ✭✭✭✭DARK-KNIGHT


    v3ttel wrote: »
    Reus' style is not similar to Mata or Kagawa.

    Reus is a player capable of playing at a world class level in wider areas, capable of stretching teams with his pace. You could not say that about either Kagawa or Mata. We're sorely lacking a world class player wide player. I think he is tailor made for MUFC. Obviously, CM still needs addressing. I don't think anyone is saying that isn't the case.

    Reus, 2 CMs, 1 LB, 1 RB, 1 CB would be on my Summer wish list. With Giggs, Cleverley, Rio, Vidic, Evra, Young all going in the opposite direction.
    World cup year.... i reckon we will be lucky to sign 2 players


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 35,338 ✭✭✭✭The_Kew_Tour


    Mikeyt086 wrote: »

    So apparently my new t-shirt empire does requests. :pac:

    If you get it up and running let me know.:p

    EVENFLOW



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,924 ✭✭✭Whatsisname


    Mikeyt086 wrote: »
    How much does it cost to set up your own T-Shirt design business? You would need to send me that amount, then wait until I get off the ground, then you can buy the Neville one for $39.99 USD.

    Actually, no, considering you are giving me enough money to start my own business, I'll send you a Neville T-Shirt free of charge. ;)

    And **** it, a 10% discount for all Boards.ie United Superthread posters! Just use the discount code: MATAGAWA at the fictional checkout of my fictional t-shirt company, soon to be fictional t-shirt empire.

    I know you're only joking with this but check out teespring.com, it is exactly what you stated here! :pac:


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 35,338 ✭✭✭✭The_Kew_Tour


    This would sell well in here:p:p

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    EVENFLOW



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,843 ✭✭✭GSPfan


    I'd be happy to let Kagawa return to Dortmund if thats what it took to get Reus. Love Kagawa but the reality is Rooney and Mata have his best position and I see another season on the bench for him at United.

    Buying Reus would be brilliant for the team. With him and Januzaj on either side of a combination of Rooney, Mata, or RVP it would be a brilliant front 4.

    I think its time to cash in on chico unfortunately. For his sake and the clubs. Danny Welbeck has shown he is more useful in the big games so Chico will only end up on the bench beside Kagawa next season.

    Maybe selling Chico and Kagawa could pay for Reus in theory.

    Leaves the transfer fund available for those 2 (hopefully German) central midfield players and a few defenders.

    Reus, Gundogan, Kroos, Shaw, Garay.

    With Carrick and Valencia almost converted to defenders we probably have good cover without splashing out on any more players.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 674 ✭✭✭GotTheTshirt


    Liam O wrote: »
    I don't think Liverpool are going to be at the same level next season. Teams are going to be a lot more defensive against them and the defensive frailty will have to be fixed, can't see Rodgers getting rid of Skrtel and Agger, Sakho might improve but you never know with these things. It's pretty much at optimum level going forward wouldn't you agree? Liverpool can improve in midfield but the risk is buying the defensive player there that's needed might slow down the attack.

    United are going to have younger, more driven players with a manager who'll hopefully finally know his best group of players and the massive holes at CM and LB will be plugged. These are responsible for 90% of the bad results this season imo and while obviously it's not just going to be all sunshine and rainbows I don't see anyway United won't be at least 10 points better off this time next season.


    I admire the optimism but this is logic straight from bizzarro world.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 9,575 ✭✭✭Backstreet Moyes


    Realistically what are we going to need this summer.

    Gk: DDG, Lindergaard, Amos
    FB: Rafael, Buttner
    CB: Smalling, Jones, Evans
    CM: Carrick, Fellaini, Fletcher, Cleverley, Giggs
    AM+W: Mata, Kagawa, Nani, Janjuaz, Valencia, Young
    ST: Rooney, RVP, Wellbeck, Chico

    GK: No need to sign unless Lindergaard moves.

    FB: We will be badly short we need two full backs, i am fed up seeing Valencia, Smalling and Jones at rb. I would like Contrao/Shaw for lb. For rb promote Varela or sign a promising young rb for cover.

    CB: We need at least one signing who comes in that is quality. We could promote Keane or else bring in a young promising cb. The three cb's are injury prone i don't want to see Carrick back their so we need two cb signings.

    CM: We need at least two quality signings as everybody knows.

    AM+W: Unless Reus becomes available i think we are fine.

    ST: Again think we are fine.

    I make it we need 5-6 players before we even know who leaves in the summer. It is difficult in a world cup year but i hope we have some deals worked on already we badly need signings. The summer is huge.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,825 ✭✭✭Mikeyt086


    I'm gonna go ahead and draw one of these out with what I hope will happen, then come back and laugh at how optimistic I was later.

    GK: De Gea, Lindegaard.

    I really love our goalkeeping situation. David De Gea is better than we thought he would be when we were defending him against muppets who mocked him early on. Top keeper. But the best thing is should the worse happen, and De Gea miss a few games through injury, I am confident that Anders can step in and steady the ship.

    No changes here (please god).

    RB: Rafael, Varela, Jones/Smalling.

    Rafael this time last year had nailed down our starting RB job. One year on and he has regressed, not so much that he needs to be replaced imo, but enough for me to feel uneasy with just Varela as backup, Jones/Smalling should not be an option. I feel we need to make a low-key, almost Buttner-like signing to give Raf some competition.

    Low-key signing in, Varela on loan/U21s.

    CB: Jones, Evans, Smalling, Vidic, Ferdinand.

    Here is a position we will definitely see activity in. Rio and Vidic are gone, and we are left with 3 Centre Backs who are short of the level we would want them to be, but not by much. Each of them has positives and negatives, but I would rank Phil Jones as the best of the 3. I've really been impressed with Jones in recent weeks, he's a strong, commanding CB with great leadership, but has positioning problems. Get him a comfortable ball playing partner and we are talking. I also want to see Michael Keane get some action, we need 5 CBs in the squad because EVERY SINGLE YEAR we have an injury crisis at CB.

    Starter brought in (Benatia, Mangala, Garay, Hummels), Keane in squad. Rio and Vidic gone.

    LB: Evra, Buttner.

    Goodbye Patrice, thanks for the memories but good lord hurry along now as you have been simply awful defensively for some times now, and shocker, defending is a pretty big part of being a defender. Alex Buttner proved he is a proper player in recent weeks and is certainly a capable backup, he keeps his squad roles, but we need to bring a starter in.

    Starter brought in (Shaw, Moreno, Alex Sandro, Coentrao), Evra gone.

    RM: Valencia, Januzaj, Young, Nani.

    Valencia will stay. I've been one of his biggest critics this year but he still has a role to play. Januzaj needs a big year, he's a first team player now, and if he continues to grow we will have a star on our hands. Young could go, but that requires someone to want him. He's not good enough, and I would want someone else brought in, but again that depends on if he leaves.

    Valencia, Januzaj, Young (or replacement like Lallana, Cuadrado), Nani gone.

    CM: Carrick, Fellaini, Fletcher, Cleverley, Giggs, Anderson.

    Wholesale changes here, and badly needed. Michael Carrick isn't performing at a high enough level anymore, and if Newcastle's interest is real he could go, but I expect him to stay in a reduced role. Fellaini is an awkward oaf, but we paid for him and he will see some time on the pitch, I only hope he improves. Fletcher is fantastic to have around, but his lack of athleticism means he only has a small role, same for Cleverley, who is limited as a player. We need signings here. I expect Cavalho. I'd like Fernando. I dream about Kroos. If we bring in all 3 (or similar in Fernando's case) we can compete with City and Chelsea in midfield. 2 would be the improvement we all want. 1 would feel light. Giggs will retire, Anderson won't be bought by Fiorentina but will leave).

    Starters brought in (Carvalho, Kroos (pls)), Carrick, Fellaini, Fletcher, Cleverley, Giggs and Anderson gone.

    LM: Kagawa, Januzaj, Welbeck.

    Kagawa looks as though he will have to be the one who is played out of position, because he is a nice, polite, and reserved gentleman who will sacrifice his own needs for team success. Having Mata beside him will help him kick on and play how we all hope he will. Januzaj see RM. Welbeck has a real role to play here, in big games especially. Ideally we would sign a star to play here, and play like a true winger, I'm talking about Marco Reus here, but thats a pipe dream.

    Kagawa, Star signing? (Reus), Welbeck, Januzaj.

    CAM: Rooney, Mata, Kagawa, Powell.

    Rooney will play here is RVP is fit and stays at the club. If RVP is missing Rooney goes up top and Mata plays here, which is what I think is best. Kagawa will play here if the situation allows it, and Powell should get a chance after a good year on loan.

    Rooney, Mata, Kagawa, Powell.

    ST: RVP, Rooney, Welbeck, Chicharito, Henriquez.

    RVP is in a difficult position. He should play every game, but do we play better as a team without him? I think he will stay, but I'm worried about injuries, which is why is it vital to have Rooney to score goals. Welbeck will get chances here, but he needs to find his shooting boots. Chicharito will leave, good luck to him, I love him. I think Angelo Henriquez will fill the last spot. He is an interesting player who seems to work very hard.

    RVP Rooney, Welbeck, Henriquez.

    Players out: Rio, Vidic, Evra, Nani, Giggs, Anderson, Chicharito. 7 in total.

    Players in: Varela, Benatia/Mangala/Garay, Keane, Shaw/Moreno/Coentrao, Carvalho, Kroos/Fernando, Powell, Henriquez. 8 in total.

    These are my guesses, and if this is the squad we have next season, with no European football, I would be very upset if we weren't in a title contending position by Xmas. It's a squad so good that David Moyes should be able to get it playing at high level, if he can't, he has to be replaced.


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