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If you could live for eternity would you?

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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 43 Fish Finger Pie


    Yes. In the future people will come up with a cure for all negative emotions and I'll live forever in bliss.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 26 ManCityFan01


    The only reason I'd like to live forever is because I have this overwhelming fear about death. It's more of an obsession really. I think about it all of the time like how I will die and when I will die. It really freaks me out! Ideally I would like to pass in my sleep as an old man having lived my life to the fullest.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 7,473 ✭✭✭Wacker The Attacker


    Immortality would get boring


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,094 ✭✭✭wretcheddomain


    I think about it all of the time like how I will die and when I will die. It really freaks me out!

    You should really see a specialist if you're thinking about death all the time.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,119 ✭✭✭poundapunnet


    And again you don't understand what eternity means or that the 3rd world is growing rapidity. Worrying about slums in the 3rd world is like a 12th century peasant worrying about his situation and thinking Europe would never get richer . If offered eternity. In fact it's not like that because Europe wasn't growing and the developing world is, so while the European peasant couldn't anticipate growth the developing world worker can.

    You don't understand exponentials even in a normal human lifetime.

    Of course the world economy could collapse but that would affect rich and poor. If there is no collapse save a few dollars, live for eternity and long before the sun burns out you will be the worlds richest man. That's just compound interest.

    Ah here, there's no possible situation where 7 billion people and counting can have the standard of living that Europeans and Americans currently have.

    There's a kind of narrative of capitalism that people believe, where the 'developing world' is just behind and it'll all even out if we just keep going the way we are, but the fact is those people need to stay poor for us to live the way we do.

    If a person was going to live forever, it'd be pretty silly to put their trust in industrial capitalism and the banks to see them through. You'd want your land, your guns and your water, not your compound interest rates.


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  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 5,172 ✭✭✭Ghost Buster


    As above if we all had the ability to live for eternity would you? If so why?

    I personally wouldn't the video below just about sums it up



    Not again, no


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 753 ✭✭✭Jonny Blaze


    Can't wait for this life to end, nevermind an infinite number of them!

    Also what about when the universe expires? Be pretty boring after that..


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,404 ✭✭✭Lone Stone


    An eternity working 9 to 5 good god, hell no.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,082 ✭✭✭KilOit


    Knex. wrote: »
    And if you're born in some slum, where any scrap you can find goes simply towards your survival? Banks wont open an account when you turn up with fresh air.

    But yeah, perhaps you do get lucky someday. Perhaps some aid comes to your area which sees it develop and you can eventually get out of the pure survival mode you're in.

    But doesn't seem worth it to me.

    If given the chance of being born in a third world country, but being immortal, or being born to rich parents and being as happy/content as you could realistically ask for while living for 40 years, I take the latter every time.
    If we're talking eternity here you would eventually happen to fall into riches, even if you're not gaining interest. some day 10, 100, 10000 years etc you just happen to find a big bag of money (credits, bottle caps) whatever the currency is, live long enough and chance will happen, you could be quite easily be the richest person alive in 10000 or so years


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,435 ✭✭✭Stavros Murphy


    Live for an eternity? You've never been to Naas A&E so OP, you get to wait two eternities there just for an Xray.


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  • Business & Finance Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators, Paid Member Posts: 17,009 Mod ✭✭✭✭Toots


    I can see the appeal, but I just keep thinking of Tom Hanks' character in The Green mile - he's had to watch his wife and family and all his friends die while he continues to live.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 6,106 ✭✭✭catallus


    It seems to be a thoroughly modern philosophical theme to discuss such hypothetical issues with an air of jaded cynicism: the default position of saying that life is such a distressing burden that one should welcome its expiry with open arms seems to me to be an immaturely skeptical take on it. Is it borne of the prevailing moral relativism? A capitulation to an imagined despair? A juvenile rejection of the Christian promise of redemption? Where does the idea of immortality being boring come from if not from an existential displeasure? Or is it from the silly ignorance of not realising what a gift life is, that people can say "Oh, no, I don't want to live forever." It just seems to be a disconnect from reality. Arse-biscuits, I say. Immortality should be the aim of any conscious being, or else they should meet their demise in the attempt of grasping that treasured prize, sought by philosophers and adventurers since the dawn of man.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 753 ✭✭✭Jonny Blaze


    catallus wrote: »
    It seems to be a thoroughly modern philosophical theme to discuss such hypothetical issues with an air of jaded cynicism: the default position of saying that life is such a distressing burden that one should welcome its expiry with open arms seems to me to be an immaturely skeptical take on it. Is it borne of the prevailing moral relativism? A capitulation to an imagined despair? A juvenile rejection of the Christian promise of redemption? Where does the idea of immortality being boring come from if not from an existential displeasure? Or is it from the silly ignorance of not realising what a gift life is, that people can say "Oh, no, I don't want to live forever." It just seems to be a disconnect from reality. Arse-biscuits, I say. Immortality should be the aim of any conscious being, or else they should meet their demise in the attempt of grasping that treasured prize, sought by philosophers and adventurers since the dawn of man.

    Pretty much yeah.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 431 ✭✭whats newxt


    catallus wrote: »
    It seems to be a thoroughly modern philosophical theme to discuss such hypothetical issues with an air of jaded cynicism: the default position of saying that life is such a distressing burden that one should welcome its expiry with open arms seems to me to be an immaturely skeptical take on it. Is it borne of the prevailing moral relativism? A capitulation to an imagined despair? A juvenile rejection of the Christian promise of redemption? Where does the idea of immortality being boring come from if not from an existential displeasure? Or is it from the silly ignorance of not realising what a gift life is, that people can say "Oh, no, I don't want to live forever." It just seems to be a disconnect from reality. Arse-biscuits, I say. Immortality should be the aim of any conscious being, or else they should meet their demise in the attempt of grasping that treasured prize, sought by philosophers and adventurers since the dawn of man.

    But nobody is saying the default position is "life is such a distressing burden that one should welcome its expiry with open arms" just simply put that death is apart of life. I think it's fairly logical to assume that if you lived to eternity that you would eventually get board, life would lose magic.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,435 ✭✭✭Stavros Murphy


    Live for an eternity? You've never been to Naas A&E so OP, you get to wait two eternities there just for an Xray.

    Karma gold, and the irony isn't lost on me, but two hours later, where was I IRL? Yup. A & feckin E......... Karma is a bitch. Never slag off things, People, they use magic and stuff to bite you. On the upside, still alive and day off work.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,059 ✭✭✭Uriel.


    Damn right I would - though the caveat being that it's not in the physique of a 90 year old or something.

    If I could live as I am now, then I'd be all for it. Life's too short, and the bastard keeps speeding up.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 28,787 ✭✭✭✭ScumLord


    I'd like to live for a very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, long time. Eternity would probably get boring after a while. It would be a bit like being stuck in a room with a load of teenagers, prattling on about crap you lost interest in years ago.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 12,452 ✭✭✭✭The_Valeyard


    Death is natural. I look forward to it after a nice long happy life.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 20,237 ✭✭✭✭jimgoose


    Absolutely. Provided that there was some sort of advancement, like the fusion of HAL and Dave Bowman into an omnipresent, omnipotent pan-Galactic hyperintelligence. Sort of thing. Nothing worse than being stuck in a dead-end job for ages.


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 8 Stretch The Pussy


    Sounds like hell to me.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,449 ✭✭✭Call Me Jimmy


    I'm sorry but you have the best username ever.


  • Posts: 81,308 CMod ✭✭✭✭ Emmaline Delightful Tear


    A long time to see what happens with space travel or technology or whatever, sure. Forever and unable to die? No thanks


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,459 ✭✭✭LizzieJones


    I would love to live forever. So many things to do and see and keep up with. :)


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 590 ✭✭✭stpaddy99


    do u mean as a human? I think it would be easier to live forever as a simpler living being. the immortal jellyfish never dies....some plant life is pretty much immortal....sponges hang about for tens of thousands of years.....tortoises have been known to lope around for 250 years
    clearly the scientists have the knowledge to keep humans alive for centuries. but we don't allow them to experiement enough , we cant afford it and we don't seem to encourage it either


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 28,787 ✭✭✭✭ScumLord


    stpaddy99 wrote: »
    do u mean as a human? I think it would be easier to live forever as a simpler living being. the immortal jellyfish never dies....some plant life is pretty much immortal....sponges hang about for tens of thousands of years.....tortoises have been known to lope around for 250 years
    the problem with those animals is they're stupid and slow. Having a slow metabolism is one way at extending life but it's not going to be much fun stepping down from the best mammalian layout natures come up with to something that can barely move.

    clearly the scientists have the knowledge to keep humans alive for centuries. but we don't allow them to experiement enough , we cant afford it and we don't seem to encourage it either
    Scientists don't have the knowledge to keep humans alive for centuries. Even keeping people alive past 80 doesn't work out too well. Some people manage to hang on but there not exactly in the best of health.

    The big problem is the brain, you can replace the rest of the body but there's feck all you can do about an aging brain.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 590 ✭✭✭stpaddy99


    ScumLord wrote: »
    the problem with those animals is they're stupid and slow. Having a slow metabolism is one way at extending life but it's not going to be much fun stepping down from the best mammalian layout natures come up with to something that can barely move.


    Scientists don't have the knowledge to keep humans alive for centuries. Even keeping people alive past 80 doesn't work out too well. Some people manage to hang on but there not exactly in the best of health.

    The big problem is the brain, you can replace the rest of the body but there's feck all you can do about an aging brain.
    when u read up more and more its obvious theres a load of stuff theyre not experimenting with nor being encouraged to do so.
    the powers that be claim they haven't even invented an electric car yet lol yet we can fly to the moon

    if it paid to keep humans alive for 200 years , wed have done it


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 13,080 ✭✭✭✭Maximus Alexander


    I don't know why anyone would want to die to be honest. Yes, I absolutely would live for eternity if I could.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,117 ✭✭✭DellyBelly


    I collect stamps so I reckon I'd end up having the biggest collection in the world...I could really rub it in the noses of some of my friends in my stamp club...although they'd be dead but still I'd be the winner...


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 590 ✭✭✭stpaddy99


    I don't know why anyone would want to die to be honest. Yes, I absolutely would live for eternity if I could.
    or some brainless reasons its become really cool to say youd rather be dead and euthanasia has also become the modus operandi of those who wish to cull the population.....we seem to ignore the FACT people are politely killed off all day every day in hospitals. sometimes humanely, sometimes not. DNR orders are often abused too and ignored by mainstream political observors, media and population


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 28,787 ✭✭✭✭ScumLord


    stpaddy99 wrote: »
    when u read up more and more its obvious theres a load of stuff theyre not experimenting with nor being encouraged to do so.
    If they're not experimenting with it then it's pure pie in the sky theory. Scientists all over the world are carrying out all sorts of experiments, there is no global consensus on right and wrong in science.

    the powers that be claim they haven't even invented an electric car yet lol yet we can fly to the moon
    Which powers? You can buy fully electric cars right now. They're not doing a very good job of keeping them secret.


    if it paid to keep humans alive for 200 years , wed have done it
    It does pay, rich people are spending millions and if their doctors could keep them alive so they could keep putting them through expensive procedures you can guarantee they'd be doing it.


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