The worst kid's name you've ever heard?

Míshásta · 20-03-2014 01:31AM

dubhthach wrote: »

Eh no it doesn't. You are conflating two completely different words which are anglicised to the same spelling:

Tuarlach = seasonal lake, common in the likes of South-Galway

Toirdhealbhach = name

some examples from history:

Toirdhealbhach Ua Conchobhair -- King of Connacht, High-King of Ireland (1088–1156)
his uncle:
Toirdhealbhach Ua Briain (grandson of Brian Boru) -- King of Munster, effective King of Ireland (1009-1086)

Toirdhealbhach Óg Donn mac Aodha meic Toirdhealbhaigh Ó Conchobair (d. 1406) -- King of Connacht, ancestor of the current "O'Conor Don"

Toirdhealbhach Ó Cearbhalláin (1670-1738) -- the "blind harper"

That name can be anglicised to Terrence as well.

Don't spoil this discussion with facts please.

That will only upset all the posters showing off their seoinín ignorance.

Míshásta · 20-03-2014 01:46AM

wolfpawnat wrote: »

I can imagine how such a name went down in rural Kerry!

That quote is in reference to men who are called "Florence".

Well folks, ye may be well educated but you don't seem to know your own country. Florence was until recently a common name for men in Cork and Kerry - especially for people with the surname McCarthy. Often shortened to "Flor" or "Florrie" The name goes back hundreds of years.

Someone else seemed to think that no-one could be called Jeremiah. Once again a very common name in Cork and Kerry and probably other areas. Usually shortened To "Jer" of "Jerry" and sometimes "Miah".

I'm not claiming you have to like those names but at least you should know that they are not uncommon in your own country.

Maybe ye should spend some holidays touring around the country instead of heading off for the Costas. It might broaden your education.

An Riabhach · 20-03-2014 01:51AM

Míshásta wrote: »

That quote is in reference to men who are called "Florence".

Well folks, ye may be well educated but you don't seem to know your own country. Florence was until recently a common name for men in Cork and Kerry - especially for people with the surname McCarthy. Often shortened to "Flor" or "Florrie" The name goes back hundreds of years.

Someone else seemed to think that no-one could be called Jeremiah. Once again a very common name in Cork and Kerry and probably other areas. Usually shortened To "Jer" of "Jerry" and sometimes "Miah".

I'm not claiming you have to like those names but at least you should know that they are not uncommon in your own country.

Maybe ye should spend some holidays touring around the country instead of heading off for the Costas. It might broaden your education.

Jeremy,also,would be quite common enough-and another variant of Jeremiah.

Míshásta · 20-03-2014 01:55AM

Sunglasses Ron wrote: »

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The English equivalent of the trend for fabricated Irish names among social climbers is even worse.

I'm really mystified by this 'trend' . This claim about "made-up" Irish names keeps appearing in posts.

Please enlighten me. I may be out of touch but I can't say I've come across any fabricated Irish names. I'm not saying they don't exist but for the life of me I can't think of any.

Can you give me some examples?

Míshásta · 20-03-2014 02:00AM

Seasan wrote: »

Jeremy,also,would be quite common enough-and another variant of Jeremiah.

I wouldn't fully agree. I think Jeremy was very uncommon in Ireland until recently. It was a sort of posh name - Jeremy's would probable have been bullied in school by all the Jers and Florries.

Mars Bar · 20-03-2014 02:16AM

Míshásta wrote: »

That quote is in reference to men who are called "Florence".

Well folks, ye may be well educated but you don't seem to know your own country. Florence was until recently a common name for men in Cork and Kerry - especially for people with the surname McCarthy. Often shortened to "Flor" or "Florrie" The name goes back hundreds of years.

Someone else seemed to think that no-one could be called Jeremiah. Once again a very common name in Cork and Kerry and probably other areas. Usually shortened To "Jer" of "Jerry" and sometimes "Miah".

I'm not claiming you have to like those names but at least you should know that they are not uncommon in your own country.

Maybe ye should spend some holidays touring around the country instead of heading off for the Costas. It might broaden your education.

I had a lecturer from cork called Flaithrí. First I'd ever heard of it and the poor lad immediately made it known that he was aware of its strangeness.

An Riabhach · 20-03-2014 02:25AM

Arbiter of Good Taste wrote: »

Michael Jackson's brother, Jermaine, named his son Jermajesty.

Best. Name. Ever.

Clever but not clever at the same time-still not a patch on his weirdo brother who cursed his kids with:

"Prince Michael"-often just called "Prince".....sounds more like he was trying to outdo his pop archrival

"Paris"-well,there is at least one other human with that name-Paris Hilton,maybe not so ridiculous but still largely unusual

"Blanket"......????!! -doesn't even deserve the dignity of a debate.

Speaking of being "clever",Kanye West naming his child "North"?So if he has 2 more kids in the future,guess what they're gonna be called!

newmug · 20-03-2014 02:25AM

Míshásta wrote: »

I'm really mystified by this 'trend' . This claim about "made-up" Irish names keeps appearing in posts.

Please enlighten me. I may be out of touch but I can't say I've come across any fabricated Irish names. I'm not saying they don't exist but for the life of me I can't think of any.

Can you give me some examples?

Here's the craic with the Irish names:

Sean, Seamus, Padraig, Peadar, Rory, Aine, Eimer, Niamh, Sinead etc. are all undisputedly Irish, and are perfectly ok to use.

But then you have names like Fionn-awn, Mehhal, Fiachna, Fachtna, Keen, Eveen etc., which I'm sure are rooted in obscure, but genuinely Irish names, but are now mis-spelled and used as a poncey status symbol among a certain demograph in the country. Ironically, usually by wannabee posh dubs, quintessentially protestant upper middle class BMW drivers. Its a kind of reverse-snobbery gone wrong.

Rainbow_Bright · 20-03-2014 02:28AM

Braxton...

dubhthach · 20-03-2014 01:01PM

Mars Bar wrote: »

I had a lecturer from cork called Flaithrí. First I'd ever heard of it and the poor lad immediately made it known that he was aware of its strangeness.

Flaith = prince, ruler, lord
rí = King

"King of Princes", no less logical a name then Ruairí (Ruaidhrí) aka Rory. Which after all basically means "Red headed King"

I always like the translation of Flaithbheartach (root name for Flaherty surname) which literally means "Cunning Prince", with spelling reform you'd probably spell it as Flaitheartach -- where you unfortunately loose the meaning of name.

Fláithrí Ó Maol Chonaire (d.1629) was an Archbishop of Tuam and founder of Irish college at Louvain in Belgium.

Mars Bar · 20-03-2014 01:03PM

dubhthach wrote: »

Flaith = prince, ruler, lord
rí = King

"King of Princes", no less logical a name then Ruairí (Ruaidhrí) aka Rory. Which after all basically means "Red headed King"

I always like the translation of Flaithbheartach (root name for Flaherty surname) which literally means "Cunning Prince", with spelling reform you'd probably spell it as Flaitheartach -- where you unfortunately loose the meaning of name.

Fláithrí Ó Maol Chonaire (d.1629) was an Archbishop of Tuam and founder of Irish college at Louvain in Belgium.

Thanks for that little nugget of information (I'm from Tuam!)

dubhthach · 20-03-2014 01:18PM

Mars Bar wrote: »

Thanks for that little nugget of information (I'm from Tuam!)

Ó Maol Chonaire is generally anglicised as Conroy these days:

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Ó MAOLCHONAIRE—I—O Mulchonery, O Mulconry, Mulconry, Conry, (Conroy); 'descendant of Maolchonaire' (follower of Conaire); the name of a celebrated literary family who were poets and chroniclers to the Kings of Connacht and other families of Siol Muireadhaigh. They were seated at Clonahee, near Strokestown, in Co. Roscommon, where they had considerable property in right of their profession. Many distinguished poets and historians of the name are mentioned in the Irish annals. A learned branch of this family, to which frequent reference is made in Irish literary history, settled at Ardkyle, in the parish of Feenagh, Co. Clare. John O'Mulconry, a member of this family, who flourished during the first half of the 17th century, was a profound Irish scholar and 'chief teacher in history of all the men of Erin in his own time.' The O'Mulconrys also produced some eminent ecclesiastics among whom may be mentioned Florence O'Mulconry, Archbishop of Tuam and founder of the Irish Franciscan convent of Louvain. The name is now unfortunately too often disguised by being anglicised Conry and Conroy.
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That snippet from Woulfe (1923) shows the angliscation of Flaithrí to Florence.

Conroy is often further anglisced as King, good reason why King is such a common name in Galway and in west in general.

dubhthach · 20-03-2014 01:26PM

newmug wrote: »

Here's the craic with the Irish names:

Sean, Seamus, Padraig, Peadar, Rory, Aine, Eimer, Niamh, Sinead etc. are all undisputedly Irish, and are perfectly ok to use.

But then you have names like Fionn-awn, Mehhal, Fiachna, Fachtna, Keen, Eveen etc., which I'm sure are rooted in obscure, but genuinely Irish names, but are now mis-spelled and used as a poncey status symbol among a certain demograph in the country. Ironically, usually by wannabee posh dubs, quintessentially protestant upper middle class BMW drivers. Its a kind of reverse-snobbery gone wrong.

You be hard pressed finding anyone in the 1901 census with the names:
Seán, Seamus, Pádraig, Peadar, Rory, Áine, Eimear, Niamh let alone Sinéad (Which was probably coin by Dev's wife at that time).

In general everyone had very anglicised names, and the above names would have been regarded as somewhat "obscure", just way you seem to think about Fionnáin, Mícheál, Cian and Aoibhínn.

newmug · 20-03-2014 07:25PM

dubhthach wrote: »

You be hard pressed finding anyone in the 1901 census with the names:
Seán, Seamus, Pádraig, Peadar, Rory, Áine, Eimear, Niamh let alone Sinéad (Which was probably coin by Dev's wife at that time).

In general everyone had very anglicised names, and the above names would have been regarded as somewhat "obscure", just way you seem to think about Fionnáin, Mícheál, Cian and Aoibhínn.

You're probably right. I was just explaining the situation to the previous poster, but the point still stands.

Tokyo · 10-04-2014 11:53AM

Inspired by a topic on the Gaeilge forum yesterday where parents are vicariously latching onto their 'irishness' through their names for their children, complete with backwards fadas , fadas on the wrong letters, etc. 'Vanity fadas' as one person put it, because their child is a unique snowflake, and therefore must be named as such.

The crazy kids names is particularly noticeable amongst my US friends - one of my friends is a teacher there and while most of her class seem to fall into the "[consonant]+ Ayden" family, some are... special. There's a Jaydann, a Destynee, and even a Raiden. As in, "Mortal Kombat" Raiden.

Thankfully I have never personally known anybody who gave their baby a truly horrific name. But when I lived in Georgia (country, not the state), I almost lost my **** when my waitress came up to me wearing the nametag "Nazi", before I discovered that Nazi is a pretty common girls first name there. I'd meet at least a couple of Nazi's on a night out in the capital.

Anybody else have their encounters with bad baby names to share? Stories about near-misses where you talked your hapless friend/relative out of inflicting a similar torture on their poor son or daughter? What other name abominations have you witnessed?

Mr. Incognito · 10-04-2014 11:55AM

99.99% of "Celebrity Children"

Apple,
Heavenly Hirana Tiger Lilly
Peaches Trixibell Geldolf

And William.*Shudder*

the groutch · 10-04-2014 11:56AM

Joey Joe Joe Junior

emeldc · 10-04-2014 11:57AM

North West

gramar · 10-04-2014 11:57AM

Young lad in my neices class called Harrison. I never fail to roll my eyes when she says his name.

emeldc · 10-04-2014 12:00PM

..........come to think of it, I had a neighbour some years ago called Denis Denis. I'm serious.

GreeBo · 10-04-2014 12:00PM

the groutch wrote: »

Joey Joe Joe Junior

Shabidoo!

Tokyo · 10-04-2014 12:00PM

Could be worse I suppose....

"Hello, my name is Adolf Hitler, and I'll be your waiter for this evening...."

The_Minister · 10-04-2014 12:01PM

Modern Gaeilgoir

Setanta etc

Vojera · 10-04-2014 12:02PM

RTÉ did a documentary a few years ago about the attitudes of Irish young people to sex. One of the interviewees was called Dráoichta. I thought that was fairly wojus.

One of my friends is a teacher and has a few kids called Courage, Happiness and Pride in her class. I know it's a cultural thing but I don't know how I'd react to an adult telling me his name was Happiness.

FreshKnickers · 10-04-2014 12:06PM

Heard of a young wan called "Sha-kye-ah". On the dad's tattoo the name was spelled 'Shakia'. Sure that's 'Shakira' without the 'r'. If I'd seen the name written down I would've thought it was pronounced "Shakky-ah"

And of course little 'Lee-a'. That's pronounced "Lee-dasha-ah" by the way.

mikeym · 10-04-2014 12:10PM

Kids in America named after cars e.g. Mercedes, Porsche.

lolosaur · 10-04-2014 12:11PM

seen a few.

Clamydya was one in donabate.
donathan
sebastianz
rhodesia
colin
maximus.
there was one on take me out called klambourghini. the k was silent. i presume it was a joke but not sure.

emeldc · 10-04-2014 12:14PM

lolosaur wrote: »

seen a few.

Clamydya was one in donabate.
donathan
sebastianz
rhodesia
colin
maximus.
there was one on take me out called klambourghini. the k was silent. i presume it was a joke but not sure.

What's wrong with Colin

swanronson · 10-04-2014 12:15PM

mikeym wrote: »

Kids in America named after cars e.g. Mercedes, Porsche.

ah well mercedes is a spanish name
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mercedes_%28name%29

FouxDaFaFa · 10-04-2014 12:16PM

Rimmel, like the cosmetics brand.

The worst kid's name you've ever heard?

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