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Changes TV3 should make.

  • 07-04-2014 08:48PM
    #1
    EdmondShiels3
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    I think the whole channel should be redesigned but keep the name. What does anyone think about changing the name? I would not do it but want to know what people think. What changes could you make?


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  • #2
    Banjoxed
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    EdmondShiels3 wrote: »
    I think the whole channel should be redesigned but keep the name. What does anyone think about changing the name? I would not do it but want to know what people think. What changes could you make?

    Shut down.


  • #3
    desbrook
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    After 9pm call themselves Sunday World TV and be done with it!


  • #4
    The Cush
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    EdmondShiels3 wrote: »
    I think the whole channel should be redesigned but keep the name. What does anyone think about changing the name? I would not do it but want to know what people think. What changes could you make?

    Won't make any difference, they are saddled with huge debt - http://www.boards.ie/vbulletin/showthread.php?p=89400686


  • #5
    haveabanana
    Closed Accounts Posts: 222 ✭✭haveabanana


    They should make more programmes about travellers.


  • #6
    Onthe3rdDay
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    EdmondShiels3 wrote: »
    I think the whole channel should be redesigned but keep the name. What does anyone think about changing the name? I would not do it but want to know what people think. What changes could you make?

    Actually of all the things to do, the first would be to change the name, it's tainted at this stage, much like the Sunday World or some of the other tabloids. Between programmes about travellers, poor journalism, the whole phone quiz/psychic affair, the poor quality picture on Sports, I could go on.


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  • #7
    irishfeen
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,067 ✭✭✭irishfeen


    TV3 might just be too far gone and in too much debt to survive but a complete change in approach is needed to have any chance - if I was running TV3 I would over a short period of time;

    - Combine TV3/3e down to one single channel/schedule maybe with a change in name to start afresh.

    - Launch TV3 HD as soon as possible to launch on all platforms.

    - Negotiate with UTVI over leasing EPG slot 105 for say a 10 year period of time and ensure a constant supply of funding.

    - For Champions League/Europa Lg coverage next season (in HD), end studio analysis and TV3 commentary and use international feed.

    - Bring Vincent Browne forward to 10-11pm incorporated with a main evening news bulletin @10pm with Conan/another US talk show from 11-12pm and Family Guy and American Dad into the early hours of the morning.

    - Expand the News & Current affairs department (not decimate it) with live updates on the hour every hour including the ability to break away from normal programming for major Breaking News events.

    - Two new half hour news bulletins @ 12/7pm.

    - Try and get Hollyoaks and Home & Away in particular along with the new TV3 soap to cover that audience.

    - Concentrate efforts on prime time television (after 12/1pm)

    - Get rid of Xpose at 6pm and reschedule it to before 3pm.

    - Get rid of Judge Judy at 04.30pm to before 3pm.

    - Use the BAI's Sound and Vision fund much more to make new Irish homegrown content.

    - Look seriously into new co-productions with the BBC/ITV akin to what RTÉ does very regularly.


  • #8
    lertsnim
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    Looking at the Champions League coverage now tells me HD is a must. Trevor Welch droning on is a massive turn off too.


  • #9
    irishfeen
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    lertsnim wrote: »
    Looking at the Champions League coverage now tells me HD is a must. Trevor Welch droning on is a massive turn off too.
    They certainly missing out on me as a viewer anyway - crystal clear free to air ITV HD for me.


  • #10
    EdmondShiels3
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 491 ✭✭EdmondShiels3


    I would keep 3e and make it into a channel like e4 but maybe not as much original programs as e4. Something like what channel 6 was with a few new programs


  • #11
    irishfeen
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    Martin Tyler and Niall Quinn commentating on the international feed tonight ... TV3 could easily improve the quality of the coverage and save money in the process ... the mind boggles!


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  • #12
    lertsnim
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    Does Trevor Welch commentate from the games or some closet in TV3?


  • #13
    irishfeen
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    lertsnim wrote: »
    Does Trevor Welch commentate from the games or some closet in TV3?
    No he do be at the matches alright - an unnecessary expense for TV3 who could just use the international commentary feed - might not sound like saving much but every little helps and could go towards acquiring more sports rights.


  • #14
    lertsnim
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    Not a bad number for him if he still does the Europa League too.


  • #15
    iseegirls
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    lertsnim wrote: »
    Does Trevor Welch commentate from the games or some closet in TV3?

    I get the feeling though that he commentates in the TV3 studios during Europa League matches. Barely anything is commented off the camera , so maybe he's only sent out for Champions League games or even when they're just in England.


  • #16
    Jason_
    Closed Accounts Posts: 158 ✭✭Jason_


    In surprised communicorp haven't stepped in and bought out tv3.


  • #17
    Elmo
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 23,641 ✭✭✭✭Elmo


    Jason_ wrote: »
    In surprised communicorp haven't stepped in and bought out tv3.

    They wouldn't be let, they had to sell off FM104, bought by UTV. There interest in INM is what prevents it happening.

    TV3 need to step up now to increase audience share. They are still just hovering around 10% audience share. They will need to see an increase before Coro St and Emmerdale go.

    They need to focus on their Prime Time Schudule. The seem to not realise that UK reality (Boozy Brits), small quiz shows (Celeb Versions of The Chase), factual programmes (DIY SOS) and crime docs don't satisfy Irish audiences on Irish TV channels, they need to do their own versions of these.

    Though not Boozy Irish (Kind of racist), or Celeb versions of The Lie (we don't have celebs).


  • #18
    Jason_
    Closed Accounts Posts: 158 ✭✭Jason_


    If communicorp bought them they could use alot of their radio stars as presenters, Ray Darcy and his wife could do a teatime Richard and Judy style show, Matt Cooper and Pat Kenny could go head to head with primetime, some spin 1038 djs could do Saturday morning teen shows.


  • #19
    Elmo
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    Jason_ wrote: »
    If communicorp bought them they could use alot of their radio stars as presenters, Ray Darcy and his wife could do a teatime Richard and Judy style show, Matt Cooper and Pat Kenny could go head to head with primetime, some spin 1038 djs could do Saturday morning teen shows.

    TodayFM wouldn't want Ray D'Arcy on TV3 at the same time as they have him on TodayFM.

    They also need to realise that you can't just put Radio on the TV.


  • #20
    irishfeen
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,067 ✭✭✭irishfeen


    Jason_ wrote: »
    If communicorp bought them they could use alot of their radio stars as presenters, Ray Darcy and his wife could do a teatime Richard and Judy style show, Matt Cooper and Pat Kenny could go head to head with primetime, some spin 1038 djs could do Saturday morning teen shows.
    Please god we don't ever get subjected to such a thing :p


  • #21
    AlanS181824
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 5,575 ✭✭✭AlanS181824


    TV3 should close altogether IMO but not 3e.


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  • #22
    irishfeen
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    AlanS181824 wrote: »
    TV3 should close altogether IMO but not 3e.
    What they really need to do is combine both schedules down to one channel and try something like this -

    07-10am - Ireland AM.
    10-12pm - Kids programming.
    12pm - TV3 News
    12.30-3pm - Xpose, Judge Judy, Come Dine With Me etc. - (Women Based)
    3-7pm - Friends, That 70 Show, The Cube (Teenage/Youth Adult Based)
    7pm - TV3 Main Evening News
    7.30-10pm Sports Matches, Irish programming, TV series, Soaps, Films
    10pm - Tonight with Vincent Browne
    11pm on - Conan, Family Guy, American Dad, Cleveland Show.


  • #23
    iseegirls
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    irishfeen wrote: »
    What they really need to do is combine both schedules down to one channel and try something like this -

    07-10am - Ireland AM.
    10-12pm - Kids programming.
    12pm - TV3 News
    12.30-3pm - Xpose, Judge Judy, Come Dine With Me etc. - (Women Based)
    3-7pm - Friends, That 70 Show, The Cube (Teenage/Youth Adult Based)
    7pm - TV3 Main Evening News
    7.30-10pm Sports Matches, Irish programming, TV series, Soaps, Films
    10pm - Tonight with Vincent Browne
    11pm on - Conan, Family Guy, American Dad, Cleveland Show.

    Really like this schedule - especially the Youth Adult Based programmes between 3 and 7. Programmes like Modern Family, The Middle and Glee could fit in here nicely.

    They won't go with kids progs, as they gave up with them back in 2000 when they had such greats like Ren And Stimpy. Maybe only do it if they were going Retro with that section, and show classic kids shows.

    Conan hasn't been shown on 3e since December, so maybe they haven't renewed that - which is a pity.


  • #24
    irishfeen
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    iseegirls wrote: »
    Really like this schedule - especially the Youth Adult Based programmes between 3 and 7. Programmes like Modern Family, The Middle and Glee could fit in here nicely.

    They won't go with kids progs, as they gave up with them back in 2000 when they had such greats like Ren And Stimpy. Maybe only do it if they were going Retro with that section, and show classic kids shows.

    Conan hasn't been shown on 3e since December, so maybe they haven't renewed that - which is a pity.
    Yeah I forgot about Modern Family and The Middle ... they would slide in easily into the teenage window or even maybe into the prime time schedule.

    I think kids shows would be a grand way to fill the schedule (not many people watch TV at that time anyway and they period is saturated) and a few homegrown shows could help meet PSB requirements. Who knows a few of the shows could be sold on to the UK and beyond too to recoup revenue for the prime time schedule. What about reinventing "The Den" after it was dropped by RTÉ even - a relatively cheap way to bring back a former Irish institution.

    As for Conan I don't know, I remember him being live at the press launch for TV3's schedule not so long ago so they might be able to get it back relatively easy - they could also go for other US talk shows like Jimmy Kimmel Live, The Late Late Show with Craig Ferguson or the new Letterman slot who Stephen Colbert is taking over.... the possibilities are endless for TV3, it seems to be a complete lack of vision from the stations hierarchy which has/is leading to its meltdown.


  • #25
    Elmo
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    I don't really see the need to shut down 3E

    07:00 Ireland AM
    11:00 Without A Trace
    12:00 L&O: SVU
    13:00 3NEWS with Sybil Mulchay and Elaine Crowley (replaces Midday)
    14:00 Repeats of Prime Time Shows
    15:00 Repeats of Prime Time Shows
    16:00 Judge Judy
    17:00 3NEWS with Anton Savage and Collette Fitzpatrick (replaces Anton's Ireland AM and Midweek)
    19:00 Different Feature programming e.g. Movie show, Tech Show (replaces Xpose)
    19:30 The Middle, Modern Family type shows
    20:00 The Lie, Crossfire, Entertainment, Reality
    21:00 Crisis, The Best US/UK programming
    22:00 TV3 Docs and Sound and Vision Fund programmes
    23:00 Tonight with VB
    00:00 3e Prime Time Repeats

    3e

    07:00 Music AM
    11:00 TV3 Repeat Prime Time Shows
    12:00 TV3 Repeat Prime Time Shows
    13:00 Soap
    14:00 Friends
    15:00 That 70's Show
    16:00 Glee
    17:00 Music
    18:00 Music
    19:00 3e News
    20:00 Arrow (Not Stripped)
    21:00 The Tomorrow People (Not Stripped)
    22:00 Supernatural (Not Stripped)
    23:00 Conan
    00:00 Family Guy
    01:00 American Dad


  • #26
    irishfeen
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    Elmo wrote: »
    I don't really see the need to shut down 3E

    07:00 Ireland AM
    11:00 Without A Trace
    12:00 L&O: SVU
    13:00 3NEWS with Sybil Mulchay and Elaine Crowley (replaces Midday)
    14:00 Repeats of Prime Time Shows
    15:00 Repeats of Prime Time Shows
    16:00 Judge Judy
    17:00 3NEWS with Anton Savage and Collette Fitzpatrick (replaces Anton's Ireland AM and Midweek)
    19:00 Different Feature programming e.g. Movie show, Tech Show (replaces Xpose)
    19:30 The Middle, Modern Family type shows
    20:00 The Lie, Crossfire, Entertainment, Reality
    21:00 Crisis, The Best US/UK programming
    22:00 TV3 Docs and Sound and Vision Fund programmes
    23:00 Tonight with VB
    00:00 3e Prime Time Repeats

    3e

    07:00 Music AM
    11:00 TV3 Repeat Prime Time Shows
    12:00 TV3 Repeat Prime Time Shows
    13:00 Soap
    14:00 Friends
    15:00 That 70's Show
    16:00 Glee
    17:00 Music
    18:00 Music
    19:00 3e News
    20:00 Arrow (Not Stripped)
    21:00 The Tomorrow People (Not Stripped)
    22:00 Supernatural (Not Stripped)
    23:00 Conan
    00:00 Family Guy
    01:00 American Dad
    Its diluting the audience over the two channels and IMO there is absolutely no need for a second channel - I see you are repeating an awful lot of the prime time schedule even on TV3 and 3e is still beyond weak .... that's basically what they have now for the most - I like the increase in news output though! (but Sybil Mulchay? :eek: :pac: )

    For me they need to lease out EPG 105 and put the money to use in launching a HD channel and improving and getting their prime time schedule on ONE channel right - don't get me wrong though your schedule would be a massive improvement on the current output.


  • #27
    Elmo
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    irishfeen wrote: »
    Its diluting the audience over the two channels and IMO there is absolutely no need for a second channel - I see you are repeating an awful lot of the prime time schedule even on TV3 and 3e is still beyond weak .... that's basically what they have now for the most - I like the increase in news output though! (but Sybil Mulchay? :eek: :pac: )

    For me they need to lease out EPG 105 and put the money to use in launching a HD channel and improving and getting their prime time schedule on ONE channel right - don't get me wrong though your schedule would be a massive improvement on the current output.

    Cybil start out in news.

    Digital TV give a choice of schedule. Currently 3e repeats TV3's morning and many of its tabloid docs.

    I put the repeats outside prime time schedules. Both Prime Times are different and aimed at different audiences.


  • #28
    irishfeen
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    Elmo wrote: »
    Cybil start out in news.

    Digital TV give a choice of schedule. Currently 3e repeats TV3's morning and many of its tabloid docs.

    I put the repeats outside prime time schedules. Both Prime Times are different and aimed at different audiences.
    I just don't think TV3 have the resources/quality programming to run two channels and IMO they would be better focusing all their attention on devising a good solid well rounded primary HD television channel.

    There is no need for 3e, its as simple as that ... their current financial situation/losing key ITV rights means they have to cut out all unnecessary expenditure to survive.

    Its funny that the two different schedules that both of us has devised in the space of 5 minute are better then what has been on TV3 for years - heads need to roll at TV3 for them to have any chance.


  • #29
    Elmo
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    we will really have to wait and see what they buy in.

    RTÉ spend about 20m on 11,000 hours of TV, TV3 seem to have mis-used their ITV programmes. It will be interesting to see how many ITV programmes UTV show with the same package.


  • #30
    Jason_
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    People have suggested that Tv3 snap up Home and away, how much would that cost ? Would rte let it go so easily? It doesn't really pull in big numbers on rte2 anymore.


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  • #31
    endacl
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    irishfeen wrote: »
    Please god we don't ever get subjected to such a thing :p

    It's d'telly. One is never subjected. One volunteers.


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